2022 NBA Draft Part II

MemphisX · Post #261 » by **MemphisX** » Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:58 am

The-Power wrote:
Chi town wrote:Kris Murray entering draft. Think he goes 25-30

I'd my Warriors would not let him slip further than 28. Same for Jabari Walker.

Kris Murray and Jabari Walker are definitely both underrated. Not many have them in the 1st round and I think both are worthy.

shangrila · Post #262 » by **shangrila** » Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:19 am

mirmil wrote:
shangrila wrote:
mirmil wrote:Who 'd fit Nuggets the best from this class? Guys I see them connected with on multiple mock drafts are Jović, Eason and Kendall Brown? Jović looks like Kevin Love lite while watching him here in Serbia, how about the other two mentioned?

Jovic I'd avoid. I don't think he'll be able to guard at the NBA level, so he probably caps out as Nemanja Bjelica. Not the worst outcome, but not something to aim for either.

Eason is incredible but likely a lottery prospect. I think it would take something drastic, like a serious injury concern, to see him drop to Denver.

Brown is one of the best athletes in the entire draft but raw skill-wise. If Denver is comfortable with their rotation they can probably take a guy like this to bring along slowly.

I know it might sound weird but I think Walker Kessler would be interesting for them. Obviously you'd be drafting a 10mpg backup to Jokic but maybe getting a quality backup would give Jokic more rest during the season.

Bjelica came too late to the NBA and Jović is already a better shooter. Getting there at a young age can only benefit him. I wouldn't take Kessler over Boogie for backup if Nuggets are aiming for championship next season, especially if they are healthy. They are most likely go for SG/SF in the draft and there are some names mentioned, although I don't watch college and G league at all so I don't have a clue about any of those. Familiar with Jović development since his team is like couple of hours away from here. Kid looks like a hard working guy but I am not sure Nuggets are in need of PF which is his natural position.

Age isn't the problem, it's physical limitations. And if you can't competently guard in the current NBA, you won't play.

If they're going SG/SF then they're probably looking at guys like Blake Wesley or Jaden Hardy too.

Chi town · Post #263 » by **Chi town** » Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:51 pm

MemphisX wrote:
The-Power wrote:
Chi town wrote:Kris Murray entering draft. Think he goes 25-30

I'd my Warriors would not let him slip further than 28. Same for Jabari Walker.

Kris Murray and Jabari Walker are definitely both underrated. Not many have them in the 1st round and I think both are worthy.

You’d think if Kris Murray got a 1st round promise he’d stay in. Will be interesting to see what he does.

jezzerinho · Post #264 » by **jezzerinho** » Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:03 pm

Watch on YouTube

Brief highlights of Procida's latest game.

Kid has some pop to him. He's getting fewer minutes since Fortitudo added players to the active roster, so a bit harder to rate lately but the raw tools of shooting, explosion and a basic handle are there.

SelfishPlayer · Post #265 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:21 am

This 2022 draft is incredibly deep. That's why you see guys with stock all over the place. I don't see Jabari Walker not getting drafted in the first round. I don't get the first round projections for Jean Montero. With a 6'2" prospect they normally have some great combination of explosive athleticism, flair, and/or resume. For him to be his best it will probably require craftiness and the three point shot being that he isn't an explosive athlete by NBA standards. What's the rush to draft that sort of guy with no resume in the first round? He may be Mike Conley. He may be Tyus Jones. He may be much worse. They both had resumes. As for a shorter prospect without a resume, Brandon Jennings comes to mind but he had elite explosion.

Post #266 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:38 am

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EMG518 · Post #267 » by **EMG518** » Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:16 am

Has anyone changed their mind yet on this draft. I still think this is one of the better ones in recent years and it actually is winding up deeper than I realized initially. Shaedon Sharpe is in which is big and both my favorite international guys Ousmane Dieng and Gabriele Procida are in as well.

This draft just has alot of wings and size to choose from. Weakest point guard crop I can remember but so much size and length in this draft.

MemphisX · Post #268 » by **MemphisX** » Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:47 am

EMG518 wrote:Has anyone changed their mind yet on this draft. I still think this is one of the better ones in recent years and it actually is winding up deeper than I realized initially. Shaedon Sharpe is in which is big and both my favorite international guys Ousmane Dieng and Gabriele Procida are in as well.

This draft just has alot of wings and size to choose from. Weakest point guard crop I can remember but so much size and length in this draft.

I have always liked it. From the Grizzlies perspective anyway. If I were a team needing a true #1 at the top of the lottery, I might not like it much. To me this draft is full of players that can potentially be in a playoff rotation. I am expecting the Grizzlies to pick up two dudes that can be in our playoff rotation when Ja's max deal kicks in in two seasons.

BostonCouchGM · Post #269 » by **BostonCouchGM** » Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:15 am

EMG518 wrote:Has anyone changed their mind yet on this draft. I still think this is one of the better ones in recent years and it actually is winding up deeper than I realized initially. Shaedon Sharpe is in which is big and both my favorite international guys Ousmane Dieng and Gabriele Procida are in as well.

This draft just has alot of wings and size to choose from. Weakest point guard crop I can remember but so much size and length in this draft.

I've been pretty consistent that it's a stronger class than "experts" have been saying. Not quite 2017 or 2018 levels but certainly should be considered a good draft

#1 face of franchise type starters

Banchero
Davis
Ivey
Sharpe

#2 types

Smith
Holmgren
Murray
Agbaji
Murray

then there's another 8-10 starters from #3 to #5 and a slew of contributors.

The Moose · Post #270 » by **The Moose** » Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:47 am

EMG518 wrote:Has anyone changed their mind yet on this draft. I still think this is one of the better ones in recent years and it actually is winding up deeper than I realized initially. Shaedon Sharpe is in which is big and both my favorite international guys Ousmane Dieng and Gabriele Procida are in as well.

This draft just has alot of wings and size to choose from. Weakest point guard crop I can remember but so much size and length in this draft.

Nope, to me the top of the draft is fairly average as far top 3's go, and then there isn't all that much of a difference between 4-14 imo. The depth is actually pretty decent as a result though. I'd rather have 2 picks in the 10-15 range rather than one in the 5-10 range. There are multiple guys who will be drafted in the mid 1st that I would much rather have than some of the guys slotted in that 4-10 range.

I think its the guards overall that I'm particularly low on, outside of Sharpe and Daniels it gets rough for me, I'm not a big fan of Ivey, Davis, Griffin or Mathurin.

Also I still wouldn't take anyone in this draft over the top 3 from last year

Roger Murdock · Post #271 » by **Roger Murdock** » Tue Apr 26, 2022 1:27 pm

The lead guards in this draft suck but the wings and bigs are pretty good

Depends on what you are looking for. As a Cavs fan who needs wing depth and shooting at 14 I think we are in a good spot

SelfishPlayer · Post #272 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:18 pm

Bennedict Mathurin appears to be a sure fire All Star. He can do everything offensively from the perimeter and he has rare athleticism. He's the kind of guard whose assist numbers increase in the NBA because of the emphasis on keeping the ball in the hands of scorers.

Ducklett · Post #273 » by **Ducklett** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 2:25 pm

What do you all think the Magic should do with 32 and 35?

SeattleJazzFan · Post #274 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 2:32 pm

Ducklett wrote:What do you all think the Magic should do with 32 and 35?

trade one of them to the jazz so they can take kris murray

LofJ · Post #275 » by **LofJ** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 4:56 pm

I'm confused about why there is very little discussion about Walker Kessler. He posted the best block percentage of the last 15 years, he's huge with a plus wingspan, and he is capable of taking guys off the dribble in the half-court. A guy as big as he is with an outlier skill on both defense (shot-blocking) and offense (his handle) should be generating a lot more attention.

SeattleJazzFan · Post #276 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:23 pm

LofJ wrote:I'm confused about why there is very little discussion about Walker Kessler. He posted the best block percentage of the last 15 years, he's huge with a plus wingspan, and he is capable of taking guys off the dribble in the half-court. A guy as big as he is with an outlier skill on both defense (shot-blocking) and offense (his handle) should be generating a lot more attention.

amen i'd take him in first round in a heartbeat.

CP War Hawks · Post #277 » by **CP War Hawks** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:33 pm

It's a good 4-5 guys in 2023 that would flat out be no. 1 in this draft. 2022 is very similar to 2020. Very weak overall, sure you will find a Haliburton in the mid first but luck was involved with that basically.

Only way to explain how the Kings of all franchises got him to fall into their laps in such a horrid draft.

shangrila · Post #278 » by **shangrila** » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:58 am

Ducklett wrote:What do you all think the Magic should do with 32 and 35?

Trade up. I could see either the Bucks or Mavs willing to move down.

WargamesX · Post #279 » by **WargamesX** » Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:13 pm

CP War Hawks wrote:It's a good 4-5 guys in 2023 that would flat out be no. 1 in this draft. 2022 is very similar to 2020. Very weak overall, sure you will find a Haliburton in the mid first but luck was involved with that basically.

Only way to explain how the Kings of all franchises got him to fall into their laps in such a horrid draft.

It’s too easy to call 2020 weak. A draft class needs about 4 years to get a good sense of the strength of it because the players need time to get adjusted to the league.

Hal14 · Post #280 » by **Hal14** » Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:27 pm

LofJ wrote:I'm confused about why there is very little discussion about Walker Kessler. He posted the best block percentage of the last 15 years, he's huge with a plus wingspan, and he is capable of taking guys off the dribble in the half-court. A guy as big as he is with an outlier skill on both defense (shot-blocking) and offense (his handle) should be generating a lot more attention.

you think his handle is an outlier skill?

i have seen very little evidence of him taking people off the dribble. if anything i've been more impressed by the occasional flashes of outside shooting.

He's kind of a big slow goofy not super coordinated or athletic big - the type that doesn't translate as well to NBA spacing and NBA athleticism. I've got him as a 2nd rounder at this point..