Barkley "You don't join no 73 win team and talk about driving the Bus"

[JN61]

So was Lebron a bus rider as well when he joined the Miami Heat, joining a player who had already drove his bus to a championship already?

He needed Wade to show him how to win and not crumble under the pressure.

[Klayforspicy]

The people who think Lebron joining the Heat is comparable to Durant joining the Warriors literally don't follow NBA and get info from Twitter.

You cannot be that stupid. You just can't.

It's the same thing.

If we’re being technical, what he did was actually worse at the time of the signing.

It just so happened that Wade started declining fast due wear and tear. Both signings were cowardly, but it backfired on LeBron more.

[Nate505]

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Pretty weak attack from the Snake. On the 6ers, he was a rookie. On the Rockets, he was well past his prime.

What Barkley didn't do was join the Bulls in 91.

[PhilBlackson]

It's the same thing.

Surely you can comprehend the difference between things being SIMILAR vs being the SAME.

What LBJ did was similar but it was NOT the same.

You have to be incredibly butthurt/hate LBJ or just lack some basic comprehension if you don't see how what KD was similar but not the same because it was actually a level up and more extreme than (the highlighted words are key) what LeBron did. Same is LeBron joining a record win setting team that had ALREADY won a championship and gone to back-to-back ones. That simply did not happen which makes it not the same. But they are similar in the intent to create a super team, just KD took it further by joining a pre-established championship team and let's just do simple numbers....LeBron joined TWO stars, KD joined THREE stars...even irrefutable math says that's not the same thing lol so NO it's not the same, it's similar.

For all their greatness, the Warriors didn't win the championship the previous year either. I don't know what you are even trying to argue anyway. No two situations are EXACTLY the same, everyone already knows that. What LeBron did was really really really bad, but KD was really really really really bad? For fans of 25+ teams who don't even have a single superstar, all these are effectively the same.

But thery're NOT lol

Because again there are LEVELS....

That's why even though Miami were the favorites, they were BEATABLE hence why BOTH Dallas and San Antonio beat Miami at FULL CAPACITY. They were DAMN good but great teams could still get to them. At full capacity the league still had a CHANCE, based on the years it was a 50/50 chance (2 out of 4)....

The Warriors on the otherhand were UNBEATABLE, they were on route to a 3PEAT, as in 3 for 3, would not have lost. Need we mention these weren't competitive series like Miami's (minus vs a toddler OKC), GSW were annihilating the Cavs in the Finals. Unless you're completely illogical, there is no level of homerism that should convince you that a healthy KD's Warriors were losing to the Raptors or ANYONE for that matter. Not even the greatest of teams, GSW was gonna dust them and the only thing that ended up stopping them was injury & KD thinking he can just do it all over again somewhere else. But NO team in the league was touching the Warriors at full capacity....teams could get to Miami --- like I said LEVELS and they are NOT the SAME -- they are SIMILAR but Durant's was CLEARLY worse and up a level from what LBJ did.

If you still don't believe it ask yourself which team are you taking in a head to head. While I think there's potential for Wade & Bosh to make it a more competitive series than Kyrie & Love did, I'm still taking the Warriors and it's because KD's team was a notch above and why?! Because they weren't/aren't the same, KD's was actually worse (period) and that's based on the caliber of team POST arrival nvm how much clearly better KD's was PRE arrival (MIA was Playoff fodder had no pre-existing MVP player, KD's had a back to back (unanimous at that) MVP on it, gone to back to back Finals, won one and set a NBA record for Ws --- it's laughable there's no comprehension on how much different the two are despite some similarities -- ie/ not the same).

[Edrees]

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Pretty weak attack from the Snake. On the 6ers, he was a rookie. On the Rockets, he was well past his prime.

What Barkley didn't do was join the Bulls in 91.

I mean KD didn't actually defend himself. He just attacks Barkley. It's like admiting what Barkley said is true, in some ways. It's like how when a politian faces criticism, and the criticism is true, instead of defending himself, he just goes on the offensive.

[Down3223]

I think it's correct to say that KD joining the Warriors is similar, but not exactly the same as when Lebron joined Miami. What KD did is worse but it's not like that legitimizes what Lebron did. Both players hurt their legacies when they switched teams and both players overall didn't boost their legacies as much as they had hoped. At least Lebron partially redeemed himself. KD looks farther away from redemption.

lebron is a top 3 player of all time, his legacy hasn't taken any hit because he was clearly the bus driver in all his titles. He's only battling with MJ and Kareem



As Acho put it: A real bus driver should be able to go anywhere, driver the bus, and win a title

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something Durant hasn't shown when not playing with Curry

[michaelm]

They're not stupid, you're just in extreme self delusion.

Which is fine, it's the same way some Warrior fans will still defend Durant's decision to join them as anything other than trying to stack the deck and win meaningless championships.

Says a fan of the franchise which invented the modern super team.

Bob Myers is definitely a better GM than LeBron though..

Yes trading for stars in their 30s is what did it.

It has nothing to do with player colluding.

Example A right here folks

Example A would be you. Where exactly in the post to which you replied did I make any arguments justifying the KD GSW super team ?.

My point was that it seems to be mainly super teams at other franchises with which NBA fans not allied to those franchises take issue. Having chided GSW fans you did exactly as I expected and posted that the super team at the franchise to which you give your allegiance, a great team which I enjoyed watching btw, was different.

[GeorgeSears]

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Pretty weak attack from the Snake. On the 6ers, he was a rookie. On the Rockets, he was well past his prime.

What Barkley didn't do was join the Bulls in 91.

The mother of all false equivalences.

[G R E Y]

Yeah I get what Charles was saying.

This team was of KD's choosing: his 1A was of his choosing; the coach; the teammates, etc. It was different when everything was already in place in GSW and a lot of pressure was off KD to do more himself and that allowed him to do more as a result.

What I don't get is what in the world Kenny meant by saying Charles is a champion even though he hasn't won a championship. That's a word salad that muddies the point.

Anyway, weak of KD to even get into it on social media. Even in GSW Kerr had to tell him to cool it with the interaction online during the playoffs. Pop had a similar directive during the Olympics. It's too bad that he gets into it but that's just what he likes I suppose. It's not the reason for his play in this series.

He has to drive that bus better.

[C3H6N6O6]

Yeah I get what Charles was saying.

This team was of KD's choosing; his 1A was of his choosing; the coach; the teammates, etc. It was different when everything was already in place in GSW and a lot of pressure was off KD to do more himself and that allowed him to do more as a result.

What I don't get is what in the world Kenny meant by saying Charles is a champion but he hasn't won a championship. That's a word salad that muddies the point.

Anyway, weak of KD to even get into it on social media. Even in GSW Kerr had to tell him to cool it with the interaction online during the playoffs. Pop had a similar directive during the Olympics. It's too bad that he gets into it but that's just what he likes I suppose. It's not the reason for his play.

He has to drive that bus better.

Chuck gets into his feelings just like KD but he has a TV show so he wins by default. Chuck always says that he speaks his mind but he has stopped talking about MJ once players close to MJ told him that he went too far even though he only talked about MJ as an owner.

He made zero comments in criticizing LeBron was bashing Morey for his "free Hong kong" tweet. He picks easy targets and goes along with what majority will like.

Guy was happy when AD got injured resulting Lakers losing in first round last year but is sad that Booker is injured this year.

Chuck is funny but his basketball takes are twitter comments level bad. He thinks that Westbrook gives his 100% on the court and isn't to be blamed much for Lakers problems.

[ken6199]

What KD 5 years ago was really some tainted stuff but man talking about dropping stone one someone who fell into a well...

[G R E Y]

Yeah I get what Charles was saying.

This team was of KD's choosing; his 1A was of his choosing; the coach; the teammates, etc. It was different when everything was already in place in GSW and a lot of pressure was off KD to do more himself and that allowed him to do more as a result.

What I don't get is what in the world Kenny meant by saying Charles is a champion but he hasn't won a championship. That's a word salad that muddies the point.

Anyway, weak of KD to even get into it on social media. Even in GSW Kerr had to tell him to cool it with the interaction online during the playoffs. Pop had a similar directive during the Olympics. It's too bad that he gets into it but that's just what he likes I suppose. It's not the reason for his play.

He has to drive that bus better.

Chuck gets into his feelings just like KD but he has a TV show so he wins by default. Chuck always says that he speaks his mind but he has stopped talking about MJ once players close to MJ told him that he went too far even though he only talked about MJ as an owner.

He made zero comments in criticizing LeBron was bashing Morey for his "free Hong kong" tweet. He picks easy targets and goes along with what majority will like.

Guy was happy when AD got injured resulting Lakers losing in first round last year but is sad that Booker is injured this year.

Chuck is funny but his basketball takes are twitter comments level bad. He thinks that Westbrook gives his 100% on the court and isn't to be blamed much for Lakers problems.

I don't know all the details of the incidents you mention, but sure, the guy with the TV show has the reach, and Charles picks his battles, to whatever degree it's bias or thinking you can win the point.

But that's also a bit of a tangent to the point at hand, one which Shaq agreed with. I do, too.

For what it's worth, I think this point also pertains to Irving seeing as how he thinks he's a decision maker on par with KD, the POBO, and the owner lol

[C3H6N6O6]

Yeah I get what Charles was saying.

This team was of KD's choosing; his 1A was of his choosing; the coach; the teammates, etc. It was different when everything was already in place in GSW and a lot of pressure was off KD to do more himself and that allowed him to do more as a result.

What I don't get is what in the world Kenny meant by saying Charles is a champion but he hasn't won a championship. That's a word salad that muddies the point.

Anyway, weak of KD to even get into it on social media. Even in GSW Kerr had to tell him to cool it with the interaction online during the playoffs. Pop had a similar directive during the Olympics. It's too bad that he gets into it but that's just what he likes I suppose. It's not the reason for his play.

He has to drive that bus better.

Chuck gets into his feelings just like KD but he has a TV show so he wins by default. Chuck always says that he speaks his mind but he has stopped talking about MJ once players close to MJ told him that he went too far even though he only talked about MJ as an owner.

He made zero comments in criticizing LeBron was bashing Morey for his "free Hong kong" tweet. He picks easy targets and goes along with what majority will like.

Guy was happy when AD got injured resulting Lakers losing in first round last year but is sad that Booker is injured this year.

Chuck is funny but his basketball takes are twitter comments level bad. He thinks that Westbrook gives his 100% on the court and isn't to be blamed much for Lakers problems.

I don't know all the details of the incidents you mention, but sure, the guy with the TV show has the reach, and Charles picks his battles, to whatever degree it's bias or thinking you can win the point.

But that's also a bit of a tangent to the point at hand, one which Shaq agreed with. I do, too.

For what it's worth, I think this point also pertains to Irving seeing as how he thinks he's a decision maker on par with KD, the POBO, and the owner lol

Chuck blamed KD for losing last year vs Milwaukee when Kenny was defending him last night.

Chuck thought that Lakers will not win in 2020 because they looked bad to start the bubble. He even thought that Blazers were going to sweep the Lakers and how Lakers weren't mentally tough enough to win. These same points were made by the worst posters on this forum.

He then turns around and just a few days ago said that winning in bubble was not impressive. He literally repeats the worst takes on this forum but he is on TV.

[zimpy27]

Chuck also wasn't a bus driver, he never said he was a bus driver. All Chuck is saying is that KD isn't a bus driver.

Not saying I agree with Chuck though, I think I'd ask Chuck if he thinks Kawhi was the bus driver on the Raptors.

[Big J]

The Nets gave Kyrie the wheel and he’s driving them off the edge of the earth.

[chuck_wagon44]

Former Houston Rocket legend right there...he drove the bus in Houston alright LOL.

[RalphWiggum]

I'm more impressed with Chris Paul making The Finals last year than I am by Durant winning two rings.

[RalphWiggum]

barkley teamed up with hakeem and drextler; they couldnt even get the bus started lol

And he's not running around calling himself a champion.

[Lockdown504090]

barkley teamed up with hakeem and drextler; they couldnt even get the bus started lol

And he's not running around calling himself a champion.

No, the NBA history books, his rings and two finals mvp trophies are though.

[Aurelius]

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