Chris Paul 21-22 Thread

[HeartBreakKid]

I thought last game was his deciding, legacy game? Do you all waiting for him to play bad or what? Why did you all ignore game 3 when he played like a superstar in supposed LEGACY GAME?

I really thought PC Board is better than that...

Who said anything about a legacy GAME...... If it was someone else cool but as soon as Devin got hurt and they lost game 2 i said itd be a legacy defining SERIES not game......anything can happen in a random game but a whole series is alot to work with......and Suns are still 3 to 1 favorites to win despite being tied.......Cp3 if youre reading this dont let a 36 win team while you won 64 beat you and have 5'9 Alvardo locking your ass up........clock is ticking

I think it's hilarious you and CoastalMarker had zero post in between this and game 3, but after the Suns lost all of a sudden your guys internet are both working.

Going to just be shameless?

[70sFan]

I thought last game was his deciding, legacy game? Do you all waiting for him to play bad or what? Why did you all ignore game 3 when he played like a superstar in supposed LEGACY GAME?

I really thought PC Board is better than that...

Who said anything about a legacy GAME...... If it was someone else cool but as soon as Devin got hurt and they lost game 2 i said itd be a legacy defining SERIES not game......anything can happen in a random game but a whole series is alot to work with......and Suns are still 3 to 1 favorites to win despite being tied.......Cp3 if youre reading this dont let a 36 win team while you won 64 beat you and have 5'9 Alvardo locking your ass up........clock is ticking

So when Paul played great game it doesn't matter, when he plays poorly it's a legacy series. Let me remind you that Paul is 37 years old midget and you treat him stricter than KD who is in his prime.

Do you judge all players based on how they play at 37 years old?

[Stalwart]

I think a loss for CP3 hurts his legacy in the sense that it's a missed opportunity to add a title or at least another Finals appearance to his resume. Which for me is pretty big. If he is able to lead a team to back to back finals that would allow me to put him in that group with Stockton, Nash, and Kidd. I could then justify putting him into my top 5 PGs all time.

However, if he loses in the fist round that kind of adds to the view that Chris Paul, despite his all time great talent, simply isn't a guy you can win with. Either a random injury or a random upset will always derail him.

[Jaivl]

Paul is a victim of his own success. Paul is in his 17th season, same as Kidd's 2011, Dirk's 2015, Nash's 2013.

The list of players shouldering as much of a load as Paul by their 17th seasons is pretty much restricted to Kareem, LeBron, Malone and Kobe, and also Garnett and Duncan but on the defensive end. That's it. And he's probably being expected more results than any of them sans LeBron.

Maybe there's some weight to some of the anti-Paul arguments here, but we must not lose perspective of which circumstances we are talking about.

[coastalmarker99]

Can you imagine if the NBA unleashes this man with Chris Paul’s legacy on the line if this series heads to a game seven or the Suns are facing elimination?

It honestly would be one of the funniest moments in NBA history.

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[MartinToVaught]

I wish they'd unleash that man for all of his playoff games. He's the only one who consistently doesn't fall for CP3's flopping and BS.

[LukaTheGOAT]

Paul is a victim of his own success. Paul is in his 17th season, same as Kidd's 2011, Dirk's 2015, Nash's 2013.

The list of players shouldering as much of a load as Paul by their 17th seasons is pretty much restricted to Kareem, LeBron, Malone and Kobe, and also Garnett and Duncan but on the defensive end. That's it. And he's probably being expected more results than any of them sans LeBron.

Maybe there's some weight to some of the anti-Paul arguments here, but we must not lose perspective of which circumstances we are talking about.

Yeah, I think it is important to highlight that Chris Paul's playmaking has been off the charts. PlayVal, an estimate of a player’s points per 100 impact from playmaking only, has Chris Paul at a 3.0.

The next closest players are

Steph-1.9
Ja-1.7
Harden-1.6

There is a mountain-sized gap between him and the next best playmakers right now, highlighting just how impressive he has been carrying the load he has. He also is averaging 21.2 pts per 75 possessions on good efficiency (rTS% of 5.3%).

Like he's been good, and the fact he is being asked to do more to win, just means that people might have to readjust their expectations for him, as he just isn't as great at applying pressure to the rim like he could about a decade.

[Jaivl]

Weirdly quiet thread today.

[HeartBreakKid]

Weirdly quiet thread today.

The pattern continues

[jalengreen]

somewhat surprised cp3 had 22, didnt feel like he got his scoring going.but his playmaking was stellar and he had to play basically the entirety of the first half due to payne's foul trouble and it clearly had him gassed. he's gonna need some rest.

[70sFan]

Paul played another nice game and Suns won with ease, so it's not Paul's legacy game. His legacy is on the line only when he plays poorly

[Statlanta]

Payne has been uniquely horrible in these playoffs like Bulls Payne horrible. Probably puts an even bigger load on the threads namesake

[trex_8063]

Payne has been uniquely horrible in these playoffs like Bulls Payne horrible. Probably puts an even bigger load on the threads namesake

Wow, he has. I've been watching this series fairly close, and had a vague feeling he was not playing well (mental images of him from this series are a lot of bricked treys, one missed lay-up [came at the end of a REALLY nice drive, too], one or two mostly-unforced turnovers, etc).
I just looked at his stat-line for the series: it's fairly beyond atrocious.

He'll get it together soon (he better).

[tsherkin]

Weirdly quiet thread today.

Very quiet, right?

Phoenix controlled the game throughout. They were +12 and +1 over the first two quarters, -2 in the third, and then +4 in the fourth as they put the game away. He scored a bunch in the first half, managed the offense very well, rebounded well and scored a bit more in the 4th to help put things away. That was a good game.

[MartinToVaught]

Weirdly quiet thread today.

All the Suns' crying about refs paid off, sadly. They were not allowed to lose last night.

[70sFan]

Weirdly quiet thread today.

All the Suns' crying about refs paid off, sadly. They were not allowed to lose last night.

Weak attempt

[trex_8063]

Seriously.....

In a game in which their opponent had 5 fewer personal fouls and nearly double the number of FT attempts [and of which NONE of the Pels is complaining], the Suns were apparently gifted 16+ points by the officiating.

Sounds totally reasonable.

[LukaTheGOAT]

Chris Paul is leading the playoffs in potential assists with 20.3 potential assists per game!

Next 4 in the list:

Draymond Green 15.7
Ja Morant 15.3
Giannis 15
D'Angelo Russell 13.7

[jalengreen]

Payne has been uniquely horrible in these playoffs like Bulls Payne horrible. Probably puts an even bigger load on the threads namesake

Wow, he has. I've been watching this series fairly close, and had a vague feeling he was not playing well (mental images of him from this series are a lot of bricked treys, one missed lay-up [came at the end of a REALLY nice drive, too], one or two mostly-unforced turnovers, etc).
I just looked at his stat-line for the series: it's fairly beyond atrocious.

He'll get it together soon (he better).

he was lookin much better in g5 but foul trouble stopped him from having a complete game. hopefully that game is still the start of a resurgence though

[jalengreen]

i thought the officiating has been fine this series. theres been some talk about the suns not getting as many FTs as the pels but the suns were like last in the league in layup attempts, not surprising at all that they're not a team thats gonna get many free throws.