Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey"

[WaltFrazier]

In hindsight Achiuwa became more important to us than Maxey would have been. Plus we have Thad.

Maxey would have blossomed less behind FVV. (Assuming GTJ is still swapped for. Norm)

Maxey has a couple things we lack. The ability to create and finish a one man fast break, to flat outrun people with the ball. And the ability, combined with his three point shooting, to come out of the corner vs a closeout and finish at the rim. He's better at the latter than anyone we have, even at his size. We could use his kind of fast dynamic offense.

He would have been an elite sparkplug scorer off the bench for us at the least.

Not comparing to Precious, not talking about his D, just what he could do.

The problem is a lot of those things aren't that important and some of those things are a reflection of who he is playing with. Maxey would be nowhere near as effective on this team. He's benefitted greatly from playing with Embiid and Harden. As already mentioned in this thread, his efficiency since Harden came to the team has skyrocketed.

I agree that he could be a nice little scorer for us off the bench but didn't you say that Maxey wasn't a dime a dozen player? Now all you think of him as is a spark plug off the bench? And remember, if Maxey is here than Precious isn't.

In a vacuum he's a young guy, sure to keep improving, was thrown into running the team this year because of Simmons and did well. Playing on a short-handed team that was supposed to have Ben, of course he got better when a replacement starter for Ben came along. Much better than dime a dozen, especially the way he shoots the 3.

Put him on Houston or Orlando and no he doesn't flourish. But neither does Precious. Both benefit from playing on good teams with great teammates.

Put him on our bench in place of any or all of Flynn, Banton, Svi and you've got a dynamic back-up guard for both Fred and Gary who would have started during all their missed games. Forget the Precious part of it. Just consider alone the upgrade he would be as part of a 3 guard rotation for us. That's not nothing, not run of the mill.

[Madhouse]

In hindsight Achiuwa became more important to us than Maxey would have been. Plus we have Thad.

Maxey would have blossomed less behind FVV. (Assuming GTJ is still swapped for. Norm)

Maxey has a couple things we lack. The ability to create and finish a one man fast break, to flat outrun people with the ball. And the ability, combined with his three point shooting, to come out of the corner vs a closeout and finish at the rim. He's better at the latter than anyone we have, even at his size. We could use his kind of fast dynamic offense.

He would have been an elite sparkplug scorer off the bench for us at the least.

Not comparing to Precious, not talking about his D, just what he could do.

I agree. As of right now I rate Maxey slightly ahead of Precious (I think this flips next year though) however I'm not sure our results would have been better with Maxey.

We would be able to scorer better but the giant issue would be the defense.


We allowed 117 points per game and were 2-7 in the games Achiuwa missed.

This is pretty insane to think about considering we allowed 107 per game on the season.

[everdiso]

Playoffs per36

Achiuwa 14.5pts (18.4usg%/59.8ts%), 6.8rb, 1.2ast/2.0to, 0.2st/1.2bk
Maxey 17.8pts (20.2usg%/59.4ts%), 4.3rb, 3.6ast/1.4to, 0.7st/0.2bk

That's offense.

On defense, Achiuwa is guarding their two stars Embiid and Harden man up, while Maxey is a hole that every rap attacks when they get matched up on him.

[SaveTheHens]

I thought it was something like 2/3 of Maxey, Thybulle or first round pick. So getting Maxey and one of those wouldve been a pretty good trade, just one of those on their own wouldn't be worth it thought strengthening a division rival, Precious makes it much easier to swallow either way.

[Los_29]

I thought it was something like 2/3 of Maxey, Thybulle or first round pick. So getting Maxey and one of those wouldve been a pretty good trade, just one of those on their own wouldn't be worth it thought strengthening a division rival, Precious makes it much easier to swallow either way.

Turns out Maxey was never on the table. I also heard Thybulle wasn't on the table either. So it was likely cap fillers plus a pick which would've been in the late 20's. It makes sense considering how bad the Lakers and Heat offers were. Lakers refused to give up THT and the Heat were only offering Duncan Robinson and Kendrick Nunn. Morey would've known what these teams were offering.

[tecumseh18]

Precious makes it much easier to swallow either way.

"Much easier"? Can we not acknowledge that Precious >>>>>>>> Maxey?

It's a two-way game. Not to mention that Precious's 3-ball percentage going forward will be at least equivalent to Maxey's.

[HumbleRen]

Thanks for jinxing it guys.

[WaltFrazier]

Gives me no pleasure to note the Maxey Achiuwa pendulum has swung back tonight, for 3 quarters anyway

[Los_29]

Gives me no pleasure to note the Maxey Achiuwa pendulum has swung back tonight, for 3 quarters anyway

No it hasn’t. That debate is over.

Maxey showing up on offense 50% of the time while bringing nothing defensively does nothing to raise his ceiling. If anything it just lowers it.

[WaltFrazier]

Gives me no pleasure to note the Maxey Achiuwa pendulum has swung back tonight, for 3 quarters anyway

No it hasn’t. That debate is over.

Maxey showing up on offense 50% of the time while bringing nothing defensively does nothing to raise his ceiling. If anything it just lowers it.

Still zero sense of humor I see

[Los_29]

Gives me no pleasure to note the Maxey Achiuwa pendulum has swung back tonight, for 3 quarters anyway

No it hasn’t. That debate is over.

Maxey showing up on offense 50% of the time while bringing nothing defensively does nothing to raise his ceiling. If anything it just lowers it.

Still zero sense of humor I see

I don’t get it. Didn’t you just bump this thread?

[WaltFrazier]

No it hasn’t. That debate is over.

Maxey showing up on offense 50% of the time while bringing nothing defensively does nothing to raise his ceiling. If anything it just lowers it.

Still zero sense of humor I see

I don’t get it. Didn’t you just bump this thread?

Your first sentence is accurate

I guess we didn't game plan for Maxey for 3 games, then for two we did, then not tonight again

[Los_29]

Still zero sense of humor I see

I don’t get it. Didn’t you just bump this thread?

Your first sentence is accurate

I guess we didn't game plan for Maxey for 3 games, then for two we did, then not tonight again

What are you even talking about?

I legitimately don’t know what you’re talking about.

[WaltFrazier]

I don’t get it. Didn’t you just bump this thread?

Your first sentence is accurate

I guess we didn't game plan for Maxey for 3 games, then for two we did, then not tonight again

What are you even talking about?

I legitimately don’t know what you’re talking about.

There was discussion here about Maxey. I lightheatedly posted that unfortunately Maxey was having a great game again. You of course have to jump in with pompous know it all comment.

The game plan comment was a reference to one of the dumbest comments I've seen on here, about we don't have to game plan a player like Maxey. As if any team prepares for two players and ignores the rest

[Los_29]

Your first sentence is accurate

I guess we didn't game plan for Maxey for 3 games, then for two we did, then not tonight again

What are you even talking about?

I legitimately don’t know what you’re talking about.

There was discussion here about Maxey. I lightheatedly posted that unfortunately Maxey was having a great game again. You of course have to jump in with pompous know it all comment.

The game plan comment was a reference to one of the dumbest comments I've seen on here, about we don't have to game plan a player like Maxey. As if any team prepares for two players and ignores the rest

No, it wasn't a lighthearted post. You were trolling, finding enjoyment out of the Raptors losing and made no indication that you were joking.

I was proven correct with my statement that teams do not do anything more than a soft game plan for players like Tobias Harris and Tyrese Maxey. Maxey was and has been the beneficiary of Harden being here. Maxey and Harris disappeared for three games and in the other three games they hit their shots. Meanwhile, Maxey provided little to no defense in every game in the series.

[Agimat]

Lmao what a fool

[HumbleRen]

Lmao what a fool

Los we don't need to gameplan for Maxey

[Los_29]

We talking about the ceiling boys, the ceiling.

Lou Williams/Collin Sexton type players aren't that hard to find. In fact, Masai let one of them go a few years ago.

And we all know that if Fred didn't play tonight that Maxey would've been shut down.

[Steelo Green]

We talking about the ceiling boys, the ceiling.

Lou Williams/Collin Sexton type players aren't that hard to find. In fact, Masai let one of them go a few years ago.

And we all know that if Fred didn't play tonight that Maxey would've been shut down.

Except Maxey is already better than both in his second season

[7 Footer]

Lmao what a fool

Los we don't need to gameplan for Maxey