Road to a Championship start here, 2022 Draft.

Whole Truth · Post #221 » by **Whole Truth** » Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:53 pm

Imagine if you will Duke... NO's land a defensive guard having Alvarado, CJ, Murphy, Hayes & Nance coming off the bench next year... That's a starting unit for some teams.

Whole Truth · Post #222 » by **Whole Truth** » Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:06 pm

Is it me or is Reggie becoming a fan..

Post #223 » by **Duke4life831** » Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:26 pm

Whole Truth wrote:Imagine if you will Duke... NO's land a defensive guard having Alvarado, CJ, Murphy, Hayes & Nance coming off the bench next year... That's a starting unit for some teams.

This is exactly what Ive been saying on the GB haha.

BI
Big 3&D guard (assuming the pick stays at 8)
Herb
Zion
JV

That should be the starting lineup next year. If they play a quick PG, slide the big guard to the bench that game and start Alvarado. Easy adjustment.

Post #224 » by **Duke4life831** » Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:29 pm

Whole Truth wrote:Is it me or is Reggie becoming a fan..

I think he's like everyone else. Hard not to watch this team and not become a fan. BI's game is so pleasing to watch. I think BI has really found a good line of being that primary #1 scorer but doesnt monopolize the offense. I think its pretty clear that the guys love playing with BI. I think that comes across the TV. Then ya throw in the young guys like Herb and Jose, the only way you cant enjoy watching those two dudes right now is if youre a Suns fan haha. Then you got guys like Nance who is just playing great smart vet ball right now, and when JV shows up. Its pretty damn entertaining to just watch him bang.

Hard not to become a fan of this team.

Whole Truth · Post #225 » by **Whole Truth** » Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:57 pm

LMAO at the look on JJ's face, first take, I'm not getting paid enough for this ****.

I have a couple partners when they talk, neibors can hear, I know what it's like. It's got to be annoying as hell to not be able to walk away, lol.

Whole Truth · Post #226 » by **Whole Truth** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:38 am

I just asked a Suns fan to give me one example of the FT discrepancy, MF tell me he'd have to rewatch tape LMAO...

Imagine a game so poorly officiated against your team that you can't list one example without having to go to tape.

Sounded like he was going to have a meltdown so I left him alone.

Post #227 » by **Duke4life831** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 5:20 am

Hope BI owns the bad defensive performance tonight. Hope he comes out next game and plays the level of D he was playing all series prior to tonight.

Willie also needs to own a bad performance as well. Left Graham in there way too long the first time he brought him in. It was pretty clear a few possessions in this wasn't his game. That was a disaster and still shocked he actually brought him back in the 2nd time, but thankfully after getting burned quick the 2nd time he took him out quick.

CJ is the easy guy to crap on right now, except for one solid shooting game, he hasnt helped this team at all. But I put BI and Willie as the top 2 guys that need to take blame because BI is THE man on this team and Willie is the coach.

Hopefully either Willie goes up to CJ or CJ lives up to his "leadership" label that people put on him and he doesnt come out looking to put up 20+ shots. They need to stop with this BI/CJ being 1a and 1b thing. BI is the only guy on the top tier, CJ and JV are 2a and 2b.

Just want to throw this stat out there.

Games when BI leads the team in FGAs: 2-0
Games when CJ leads the team in FGAs: 0-3

Whole Truth · Post #228 » by **Whole Truth** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 5:25 am

Duke4life831 wrote:Hope BI owns the bad defensive performance tonight. Hope he comes out next game and plays the level of D he was playing all series prior to tonight.

Willie also needs to own a bad performance as well. Left Graham in there way too long the first time he brought him in. It was pretty clear a few possessions in this wasn't his game. That was a disaster and still shocked he actually brought him back in the 2nd time, but thankfully after getting burned quick the 2nd time he took him out quick.

CJ is the easy guy to crap on right now, except for one solid shooting game, he hasnt helped this team at all. But I put BI and Willie as the top 2 guys that need to take blame because BI is THE man on this team and Willie is the coach.

Hopefully either Willie goes up to CJ or CJ lives up to his "leadership" label that people put on him and he doesnt come out looking to put up 20+ shots. They need to stop with this BI/CJ being 1a and 1b thing. BI is the only guy on the top tier, CJ and JV are 2a and 2b.

Just want to throw this stat out there.

Games when BI leads the team in FGAs: 2-0
Games when CJ leads the team in FGAs: 0-3

Bridges did a far better job on BI than Crowder, that's going to be an issue for Green. Atleast BI is taking the brunt of the Suns D if nothing else & still producing. CJ had the blinders on again which killed all offensive momentum in the 4th.

Post #229 » by **Duke4life831** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 5:31 am

Whole Truth wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Hope BI owns the bad defensive performance tonight. Hope he comes out next game and plays the level of D he was playing all series prior to tonight.

Willie also needs to own a bad performance as well. Left Graham in there way too long the first time he brought him in. It was pretty clear a few possessions in this wasn't his game. That was a disaster and still shocked he actually brought him back in the 2nd time, but thankfully after getting burned quick the 2nd time he took him out quick.

CJ is the easy guy to crap on right now, except for one solid shooting game, he hasnt helped this team at all. But I put BI and Willie as the top 2 guys that need to take blame because BI is THE man on this team and Willie is the coach.

Hopefully either Willie goes up to CJ or CJ lives up to his "leadership" label that people put on him and he doesnt come out looking to put up 20+ shots. They need to stop with this BI/CJ being 1a and 1b thing. BI is the only guy on the top tier, CJ and JV are 2a and 2b.

Just want to throw this stat out there.

Games when BI leads the team in FGAs: 2-0
Games when CJ leads the team in FGAs: 0-3

Bridges did a far better job on BI than Crowder, that's going to be an issue for Green. Atleast BI is taking the brunt of the Suns D if nothing else & still producing. CJ had the blinders on again which killed all offensive momentum in the 4th.

It shouldn't be too hard. Just run enough on ball and off ball screens to get someone either than Bridges on him. Its going to take a little adjustment, but they should be able to do it.

And ya agree 100% on CJ. I just dont feel like beating a dead horse with him at the moment haha. Im just more disappointed with BI and Willie with this game because I hold them to a higher standard.

In all honesty Ive given up having any hope of CJ having a good game this series. He has made a couple timely shots and that is about it. It also seems to be enough to keep the media off of him. It seems like no one is really talking about just how bad he has been this series. CJ is probably around 5th or 6th on my rankings on guys on this team that I have faith in going into a game at the moment.

Whole Truth · Post #230 » by **Whole Truth** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 5:39 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
Whole Truth wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Hope BI owns the bad defensive performance tonight. Hope he comes out next game and plays the level of D he was playing all series prior to tonight.

Willie also needs to own a bad performance as well. Left Graham in there way too long the first time he brought him in. It was pretty clear a few possessions in this wasn't his game. That was a disaster and still shocked he actually brought him back in the 2nd time, but thankfully after getting burned quick the 2nd time he took him out quick.

CJ is the easy guy to crap on right now, except for one solid shooting game, he hasnt helped this team at all. But I put BI and Willie as the top 2 guys that need to take blame because BI is THE man on this team and Willie is the coach.

Hopefully either Willie goes up to CJ or CJ lives up to his "leadership" label that people put on him and he doesnt come out looking to put up 20+ shots. They need to stop with this BI/CJ being 1a and 1b thing. BI is the only guy on the top tier, CJ and JV are 2a and 2b.

Just want to throw this stat out there.

Games when BI leads the team in FGAs: 2-0
Games when CJ leads the team in FGAs: 0-3

Bridges did a far better job on BI than Crowder, that's going to be an issue for Green. Atleast BI is taking the brunt of the Suns D if nothing else & still producing. CJ had the blinders on again which killed all offensive momentum in the 4th.

It shouldn't be too hard. Just run enough on ball and off ball screens to get someone either than Bridges on him. Its going to take a little adjustment, but they should be able to do it.

And ya agree 100% on CJ. I just dont feel like beating a dead horse with him at the moment haha. Im just more disappointed with BI and Willie with this game because I hold them to a higher standard.

In all honesty Ive given up having any hope of CJ having a good game this series. He has made a couple timely shots and that is about it. It also seems to be enough to keep the media off of him. It seems like no one is really talking about just how bad he has been this series. CJ is probably around 5th or 6th on my rankings on guys on this team that I have faith in going into a game at the moment.

I thought he would have at least one hot shooting game.. Ingram drawing Bridges as his assignment, CJ should have faired better against Crowder but it was more of the same, ignoring wide open players to force a brick. I'm not hating just stating what is fact.

When Zion comes back & he takes a higher usage than Jonas, I think if CJ doesn't take or accept the 6th man role, this team is going nowhere. Atleast for the next 5yrs.

Even Jonas to a lesser extent, if he's not getting touches he losses alot of his value..

The role BI & CJ are playing now should be Zion & BI with a 3 & D guard capable of playing off ball i.e (Mathurin).

Everyone keeps thinking Jonas/Zion/BI/Herb & CJ would be a good rotation but I don't think it has the proper offensive & defensive balance. This is why I was against the trade & now NO's have to make it work because his contract is eating up 30m of the cap..

It comes down to this... If CJ is reduced to a catch & shoot option, a cheap 3&D guard would have been the much better fit & option.. When Zion & BI's usage take up CJ's usage, he just becomes a defensive liability, as does Jonas, more less both.

Whole Truth · Post #231 » by **Whole Truth** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:03 pm

Surprised Suns not complaining about the FT discrepancy after this one, lol..

Add the 5 tech's they took in game 4 & it's the same 40 FT's awarded but on the road... Where's their outrage ? where's Monty crying in his post game ? that's how u know they were whinning & working the official so they could play more physical in game 5 & did. They fouled so much they had several players ejected or near ejection with Refs not wanting to look one sided. This game was worse than game 4... the only difference is, they didn't lose.

Crying wolf like that, is why the ones bringing up legitiment qualms, will never be taken seriously.

FT's initself, is not proof of bias.

Letting Gobert set moving screens all game, only to call the other teams big for one in crunch time, is intent/bias.

Whole Truth · Post #232 » by **Whole Truth** » Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:54 pm

Loved Green's post game interview.

That's what competition is about. Trophys & rings are a one time experience, as good a feeling it may be. Where pushing & exceeding your limits as an individual is where the lifetime reward is, bettering yourself. That is the purpose of life & redemption. You make mistakes, you learn/fail, you get better/improve. In death, everything in life & flesh is temporary other than what you made yourseld out to be.

Your mind leads because unlike your body/flesh it has no limitation (Flesh is weak), your body follows in belief & faith even in failure & disappointment (move mountains with the faith of a mustard seed). Fear, is a lack of faith & belief, are you fearless?.

In pushing your limits, you don't fail in not meeting them, you fail, when you fail to try.

Game 5 is yours for the taking. Win or lose, put your best foot forward.

Lets get it.

Whole Truth · Post #233 » by **Whole Truth** » Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:07 am

3 straight offensive fouls given to Suns on handoffs, they don't have to play any D with Paul cooking. 10pt lead gone, I'm shocked. lol

Whole Truth · Post #234 » by **Whole Truth** » Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:10 am

Crowders flop just injured Alverado.

Whole Truth · Post #235 » by **Whole Truth** » Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:27 am

CJ's best shooting game & they foul him out, lol

Whole Truth · Post #236 » by **Whole Truth** » Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:55 am

25 secs left, Suns up 3 on a Paul & 1 that should have been a flagrant on Paul, Refs took over start of the 3rd Q.

Herb Jones was ejected in the Cats game for less. Paul gets FT';s for elbowing Alvarado in the mouth. The deciding pts in this game.

Whole Truth · Post #237 » by **Whole Truth** » Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:07 am

Man feel it for Green... Great first year.

GIMME_DATT · Post #238 » by **GIMME_DATT** » Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:15 am

CJ was very bad in this series and cost the pels. If he showed up they could have pulled the upset

Whole Truth · Post #239 » by **Whole Truth** » Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:19 am

GIMME_DATT wrote:CJ was very bad in this series and cost the pels. If he showed up they could have pulled the upset

Bridges was just too much length on him. That TO was costly.

Can't be mad though, future looks good. The rookies played well beyond expectation.

Post #240 » by **Duke4life831** » Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:43 am

BI with a bad shooting night, but good turnaround game defensively for him compared to game 5. Also love that he brought the facilitating, best way to still make an impact even when your shot isnt falling.

CJ was just bad this series, really no way around it.

But overall cant complain from the Pels view. BI stepped up big time in huge moments. You know you got a legit coach in Willie. You know you found a couple diamond in the roughs with Herb and Jose. Definitely a positive season for them. Im sure if you told people before the season that Zion wouldnt play a single minute and you make the playoffs and take the #1 seed to a super tight 6 games. The majority of people would take that.