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Re: Lakers needs in FA/trades 

Post#61 » by Beethoven » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:08 pm

I'd definitely welcome Lavine, Lonzo here for AD. Throw Caruso in the mix as well.
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Re: Lakers needs in FA/trades 

Post#62 » by MalagaBulls » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:20 pm

Beethoven wrote:I'd definitely welcome Lavine, Lonzo here for AD. Throw Caruso in the mix as well.
Bulls fan in peace, I was about to ask what we could get for Demar & our 18th pick but I see your forum wants both Zach & Lonzo for AD, & then throw in AC?
You know our new FO won't get fleeced trying to be the smartest guys in the room & bid against themselves like Garpax. I think the 141 trade they might think about is Zach for AD straight, the salaries match. But honestly I think they will run it back.
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Re: Lakers needs in FA/trades 

Post#63 » by tamaraw08 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:09 pm

MalagaBulls wrote:
Beethoven wrote:I'd definitely welcome Lavine, Lonzo here for AD. Throw Caruso in the mix as well.
Bulls fan in peace, I was about to ask what we could get for Demar & our 18th pick but I see your forum wants both Zach & Lonzo for AD, & then throw in AC?
You know our new FO won't get fleeced trying to be the smartest guys in the room & bid against themselves like Garpax. I think the 141 trade they might think about is Zach for AD straight, the salaries match. But honestly I think they will run it back.


fine, Westbrook,THT and Nunn for Lonzo and Lavine, Caruso deal. :D
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Re: Lakers needs in FA/trades 

Post#64 » by MalagaBulls » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:16 pm

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MalagaBulls wrote:
Beethoven wrote:I'd definitely welcome Lavine, Lonzo here for AD. Throw Caruso in the mix as well.
Bulls fan in peace, I was about to ask what we could get for Demar & our 18th pick but I see your forum wants both Zach & Lonzo for AD, & then throw in AC?
You know our new FO won't get fleeced trying to be the smartest guys in the room & bid against themselves like Garpax. I think the 141 trade they might think about is Zach for AD straight, the salaries match. But honestly I think they will run it back.


fine, Westbrook,THT and Nunn for Lonzo and Lavine, Caruso deal. :D
Gotta give you credit for tryin to sneak Westbrook in there but that's gonna be a flat no. That contract is horrendous but thankfully for you guys (Or whoever you sucker into taking it ) it only has 1 year left. I think it's a really good possibility you guys run it back with both Bron/AD & try to find a taker for RW.
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Re: Lakers needs in FA/trades 

Post#65 » by Beethoven » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:18 pm

MalagaBulls wrote:
Beethoven wrote:I'd definitely welcome Lavine, Lonzo here for AD. Throw Caruso in the mix as well.
Bulls fan in peace, I was about to ask what we could get for Demar & our 18th pick but I see your forum wants both Zach & Lonzo for AD, & then throw in AC?
You know our new FO won't get fleeced trying to be the smartest guys in the room & bid against themselves like Garpax. I think the 141 trade they might think about is Zach for AD straight, the salaries match. But honestly I think they will run it back.

It is not the forum. It is just me stating it. I am just talking pipe dreams that's all no analysis by me.
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Post#66 » by Beethoven » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:19 pm

tamaraw08 wrote:
MalagaBulls wrote:
Beethoven wrote:I'd definitely welcome Lavine, Lonzo here for AD. Throw Caruso in the mix as well.
Bulls fan in peace, I was about to ask what we could get for Demar & our 18th pick but I see your forum wants both Zach & Lonzo for AD, & then throw in AC?
You know our new FO won't get fleeced trying to be the smartest guys in the room & bid against themselves like Garpax. I think the 141 trade they might think about is Zach for AD straight, the salaries match. But honestly I think they will run it back.


fine, Westbrook,THT and Nunn for Lonzo and Lavine, Caruso deal. :D

This would be amazing. Im not sure why they havent offered you the GM job yet. 8-)
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Re: Lakers needs in FA/trades 

Post#67 » by slifersd » Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:34 pm

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Ball so hard wrote:No way in hell you trade an unprotected pick given this old an injury prone core. Do teams still trade unprotected picks? We seriously need to consider a rebuild at this point. Seems as if any move we make will end up putting us in a deeper hole. I feel like 99% of the trades i'm seeing are simply wishful thinking.


We can't really rebuild in the truest sense right now because we owe Pelicans all our picks till 2025. If we trade away our stars, we can get some firs tround picks but their new teams wouldn't be bad enough for those picks to be lottery picks. We have to find a way to soldier through the next couple of years before deciding on a direction to move forward


The same was said when the Pelicans traded AD to us. How did that turn out? It's hard to predict the exact timing of when a team will be bad. The picks we owe is a sunk cost... it's irrelevant where they end up. I'm a firm believer in it's best to start a rebuild a bit early than 1-2 years too late. Another injury riddled season by AD and his value plummets.


When Pelicans traded with us, they gained control for our draft picks for five years. We didn't have to give up anything super valuable at the beginning but are paying out the ass now because the timing is so long. I doubt any team is willing to give up five years of draft control for either guy right now if we trade them. What team that wants to acquire LBJ or AD would instantly start sucking in two years lol.

I get the fact that fans want a rebuild because of the sour taste in their mouths from last season, but without premium draft picks, our own or from a trade, it is hard to do a good rebuild.
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Post#68 » by zimpy27 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:43 pm

MalagaBulls wrote:
Beethoven wrote:I'd definitely welcome Lavine, Lonzo here for AD. Throw Caruso in the mix as well.
Bulls fan in peace, I was about to ask what we could get for Demar & our 18th pick but I see your forum wants both Zach & Lonzo for AD, & then throw in AC?
You know our new FO won't get fleeced trying to be the smartest guys in the room & bid against themselves like Garpax. I think the 141 trade they might think about is Zach for AD straight, the salaries match. But honestly I think they will run it back.


LaVine is not certain to re-sign. You could lose him to the Spurs. I'd focus on resigning him if I was the Bulls
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Post#69 » by Slava » Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:41 pm

Lonzo’s knee issues appear to be chronic. He looks cooked to be honest.
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Post#70 » by Lakers24gm » Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:26 pm

Been trying to think of a roster built around an Indiana trade for Westbrook. If they do this i think the trade with OKC is even more important to roster construction. Does OKC even want THT though? Westbrook 27 unprotected and a 2nd for Brogdon, Buddy and Oshea. THT and filler for Favors, Williams and Muscala. WIth all OKC picks helps roster construction. Imagine the shooting with Lebron, Brogdon, Buddy, Malik and Muscala all on ther court together insane! Defense well you know. What other piece would we add to this?

PG - Malcolm Brogdon - Kendrick Nunn
SG - Buddy Hield - Malik Monk - Austin Reaves
SF - Kenrich Williams - Stanley Johnson - Weynan Gabriel
PF - Lebron James - Oshea Brissett
C - Anthony Davis - Derrick Favors - Mike Muscala
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Post#71 » by zimpy27 » Sun May 1, 2022 9:20 am

Lakers24gm wrote:Been trying to think of a roster built around an Indiana trade for Westbrook. If they do this i think the trade with OKC is even more important to roster construction. Does OKC even want THT though? Westbrook 27 unprotected and a 2nd for Brogdon, Buddy and Oshea. THT and filler for Favors, Williams and Muscala. WIth all OKC picks helps roster construction. Imagine the shooting with Lebron, Brogdon, Buddy, Malik and Muscala all on ther court together insane! Defense well you know. What other piece would we add to this?

PG - Malcolm Brogdon - Kendrick Nunn
SG - Buddy Hield - Malik Monk - Austin Reaves
SF - Kenrich Williams - Stanley Johnson - Weynan Gabriel
PF - Lebron James - Oshea Brissett
C - Anthony Davis - Derrick Favors - Mike Muscala


Indy would not do that trade.

Defense need to be priority before shooting if you want to make a serious team. Otherwise just run it back and save your future picks.
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Re: Lakers needs in FA/trades 

Post#72 » by Lakers24gm » Mon May 2, 2022 2:20 am

zimpy27 wrote:
Lakers24gm wrote:Been trying to think of a roster built around an Indiana trade for Westbrook. If they do this i think the trade with OKC is even more important to roster construction. Does OKC even want THT though? Westbrook 27 unprotected and a 2nd for Brogdon, Buddy and Oshea. THT and filler for Favors, Williams and Muscala. WIth all OKC picks helps roster construction. Imagine the shooting with Lebron, Brogdon, Buddy, Malik and Muscala all on ther court together insane! Defense well you know. What other piece would we add to this?

PG - Malcolm Brogdon - Kendrick Nunn
SG - Buddy Hield - Malik Monk - Austin Reaves
SF - Kenrich Williams - Stanley Johnson - Weynan Gabriel
PF - Lebron James - Oshea Brissett
C - Anthony Davis - Derrick Favors - Mike Muscala


Indy would not do that trade.

Defense need to be priority before shooting if you want to make a serious team. Otherwise just run it back and save your future picks.


It all depends if Indiana wants to clear cap space. They already have some but also may want to open up playing time for Hali and Duarte. Still think there best chance of competing is the deal wth charlotte.
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Post#73 » by TylersLakers » Mon May 2, 2022 2:56 am

MalagaBulls wrote:
Beethoven wrote:I'd definitely welcome Lavine, Lonzo here for AD. Throw Caruso in the mix as well.
Bulls fan in peace, I was about to ask what we could get for Demar & our 18th pick but I see your forum wants both Zach & Lonzo for AD, & then throw in AC?
You know our new FO won't get fleeced trying to be the smartest guys in the room & bid against themselves like Garpax. I think the 141 trade they might think about is Zach for AD straight, the salaries match. But honestly I think they will run it back.


If the Lakers trade AD, here’s what I’d want:

Vuc, Caruso, Pat Williams, White, #18 plus a future 1st for THT, AD

The Lakers would clearly be retooling with an eye towards a rebuild. This way they get some young players and future picks. Bulls load up with AD/DDR/Zach/Lonzo.
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Post#74 » by LAL1947 » Mon May 2, 2022 4:56 am

MalagaBulls wrote:
Beethoven wrote:I'd definitely welcome Lavine, Lonzo here for AD. Throw Caruso in the mix as well.

Bulls fan in peace, I was about to ask what we could get for Demar & our 18th pick but I see your forum wants both Zach & Lonzo for AD, & then throw in AC?
You know our new FO won't get fleeced trying to be the smartest guys in the room & bid against themselves like Garpax. I think the 141 trade they might think about is Zach for AD straight, the salaries match. But honestly I think they will run it back.

Zach Lavine and Patrick Williams should be the base of any trade between our teams IMO.

Lavine by himself is too light and makes the trade too much in Chicago's favor.
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Post#75 » by tamaraw08 » Mon May 2, 2022 2:39 pm

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MalagaBulls wrote:
Beethoven wrote:I'd definitely welcome Lavine, Lonzo here for AD. Throw Caruso in the mix as well.
Bulls fan in peace, I was about to ask what we could get for Demar & our 18th pick but I see your forum wants both Zach & Lonzo for AD, & then throw in AC?
You know our new FO won't get fleeced trying to be the smartest guys in the room & bid against themselves like Garpax. I think the 141 trade they might think about is Zach for AD straight, the salaries match. But honestly I think they will run it back.


If the Lakers trade AD, here’s what I’d want:

Vuc, Caruso, Pat Williams, White, #18 plus a future 1st for THT, AD

The Lakers would clearly be retooling with an eye towards a rebuild. This way they get some young players and future picks. Bulls load up with AD/DDR/Zach/Lonzo.


Lakers are in this mess because they really wanted another playmaker/scorer next to the aging Lebron who cannot obviously carry this team every freaking ball possession. I like Vuc and Love Caruso, ok with Pat and White and obviously, having a future 1st is great, but none of these incoming players you mentioned can be their coveted Playmaker/scorer they badly need. And no, I don't like to see another fragile player like Ball in this team too.
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Post#76 » by SK21209 » Mon May 2, 2022 4:51 pm

Lakers24gm wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Lakers24gm wrote:Been trying to think of a roster built around an Indiana trade for Westbrook. If they do this i think the trade with OKC is even more important to roster construction. Does OKC even want THT though? Westbrook 27 unprotected and a 2nd for Brogdon, Buddy and Oshea. THT and filler for Favors, Williams and Muscala. WIth all OKC picks helps roster construction. Imagine the shooting with Lebron, Brogdon, Buddy, Malik and Muscala all on ther court together insane! Defense well you know. What other piece would we add to this?

PG - Malcolm Brogdon - Kendrick Nunn
SG - Buddy Hield - Malik Monk - Austin Reaves
SF - Kenrich Williams - Stanley Johnson - Weynan Gabriel
PF - Lebron James - Oshea Brissett
C - Anthony Davis - Derrick Favors - Mike Muscala


Indy would not do that trade.

Defense need to be priority before shooting if you want to make a serious team. Otherwise just run it back and save your future picks.


It all depends if Indiana wants to clear cap space. They already have some but also may want to open up playing time for Hali and Duarte. Still think there best chance of competing is the deal wth charlotte.


If we were able to pull of Russ/pick(s) for Brogdon/Hield, I'm of the unpopular opinion that we shouldn't bring Monk back. With Brogdon, Hield and Nunn I think we'd have enough firepower in the backcourt and I don't want to bury Reaves. We'd need to use the full MLE on Monk, I think we'd be better served offering it to guys like Otto Porter, Nic Batum or Derrick Jones Jr. Kenrich Williams would be a great get, but we still need more wings. I don't know enough about Brissett to gauge how much he could help us. Stanley and Wenyan were nice finds, but they're probably not consistent contributors to a championship-level rotation.

Finally, with the roster you listed above I'd want AD and Favors to start at the 4/5. We'd have enough shooting around them and I think we saw this year that AD might be better off playing the 5 only in crunch time.
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Post#77 » by IceManBK1 » Mon May 2, 2022 10:37 pm

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/266780/Wolves-Expected-To-Pursue-DAngelo-Russell-Trade

Bring dlo home? i think magic made a huge mistake trading him away. He was exciting to watch as a Lakers. I think all this getting bounced around has killed his confidence. I think he would've done better in the memphis series if the offense was ran through him more. The way Towns and Edwards attack, they like to force issues against 3 or 4 defenders. They barely pass back out. Dlo just standing around in the corner and wait for a pass sometimes that don't even come. I think the knock on him was consistency and that he can't play d. I think his d improved this yr. He also shown that in his allstar bklyn season. If not, maybe Lakers can make a trade for Joe Harris to play alongside Dlo. They were good running mates in bklyn.

Hate to do this to Lebron, but I'd trade him to Knicks for Randle and Mitchell Robinson or Nerlens Noel.

Dlo
Avery Bradley
Joe Harris
Randle
AD

With Monk and Mitchell or Noel coming off bench.
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Post#78 » by TylersLakers » Mon May 2, 2022 10:51 pm

tamaraw08 wrote:
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MalagaBulls wrote:Bulls fan in peace, I was about to ask what we could get for Demar & our 18th pick but I see your forum wants both Zach & Lonzo for AD, & then throw in AC?
You know our new FO won't get fleeced trying to be the smartest guys in the room & bid against themselves like Garpax. I think the 141 trade they might think about is Zach for AD straight, the salaries match. But honestly I think they will run it back.


If the Lakers trade AD, here’s what I’d want:

Vuc, Caruso, Pat Williams, White, #18 plus a future 1st for THT, AD

The Lakers would clearly be retooling with an eye towards a rebuild. This way they get some young players and future picks. Bulls load up with AD/DDR/Zach/Lonzo.


Lakers are in this mess because they really wanted another playmaker/scorer next to the aging Lebron who cannot obviously carry this team every freaking ball possession. I like Vuc and Love Caruso, ok with Pat and White and obviously, having a future 1st is great, but none of these incoming players you mentioned can be their coveted Playmaker/scorer they badly need. And no, I don't like to see another fragile player like Ball in this team too.


I get it but we wouldn't be making this move to contend. We'd make this move with the idea of starting a rebuild. Having Pat Williams, Colby White and some future 1sts help in the long run. Caruso and Vuc are two players who could play next to LeBron next year before he leaves in a year.

You add in whatever you get in a Russ trade - and hey, maybe you have a reasonable team next year even without AD.

Indiana package: Russ, 2027 1st for Brogdon/Hield:

Brogdon/White/Nunn
Hield/Caruso/
Pat Williams/
LeBron/
Vucevic/

- Plus tax MLE ($6.0M), 18th pick, veteran minimum signings

Charlotte package: Russ, 2027 1st for Hayward, Oubre, 2nd rounder

Nunn/White
Hayward/Caruso/
Pat Williams/Oubre
LeBron/
Vucevic/

- Plus tax MLE ($6.0), 18th pick, veteran minimum signings

Oklahoma City package: Russ, 2027 1st to OKC for Favors, Muscala, Kenrich Williams, 28M trade exception.

Nunn/White/
Caruso/Kenrich Williams/
Pat Williams/
LeBron/Muscala
Vucevic/Favors/

- Plus full MLE ($10.0M), BLE ($4.0M), 18th pick, $28M trade exception, veteran minimums

Trading AD and gaining depth (our current weak spot) and flexibility in the future might do us well. Regardless, I don't think any of this is happening. I'd be absolutely floored if AD got traded.
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Re: Lakers needs in FA/trades 

Post#79 » by slifersd » Tue May 3, 2022 1:39 am

IceManBK1 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/266780/Wolves-Expected-To-Pursue-DAngelo-Russell-Trade

Bring dlo home? i think magic made a huge mistake trading him away. He was exciting to watch as a Lakers. I think all this getting bounced around has killed his confidence. I think he would've done better in the memphis series if the offense was ran through him more. The way Towns and Edwards attack, they like to force issues against 3 or 4 defenders. They barely pass back out. Dlo just standing around in the corner and wait for a pass sometimes that don't even come. I think the knock on him was consistency and that he can't play d. I think his d improved this yr. He also shown that in his allstar bklyn season. If not, maybe Lakers can make a trade for Joe Harris to play alongside Dlo. They were good running mates in bklyn.

Hate to do this to Lebron, but I'd trade him to Knicks for Randle and Mitchell Robinson or Nerlens Noel.

Dlo
Avery Bradley
Joe Harris
Randle
AD

With Monk and Mitchell or Noel coming off bench.


DLo and KAT are really good friends, so I doubt he is going to get traded. Twolves has to do everything to make KAT happy and getting rid of his best friend for cap relief wouldn't make KAT happy at all.
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Post#80 » by fteru6uhre54ew » Tue May 3, 2022 5:00 am

Get rid of Westbrook is the first move and this year is his last year of his contract the next year is a FA so he should be a good acquisition for teams that want to rebuild. I mean the first move should be get rid of Pelinka but this isn't going to happen the roster that he give to a defensive coach like Vogel still terrorize me and all the fault was for the one who had probably less fault. If Pelinka is a little bit smart there are teams like Utah he should go for Mitchell because those at the end are going to rebuild again and Indiana is the other team with good pieces give me two good guards like Brogdon and a good 5. I mean i would take back even Mcgee

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