Trade packages for Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert

[Jadoogar]

KOC idea of Gobert for Simmons is one I actually would love for both teams and the salaries work. Or Gobert for Simmons to re-route him elsewhere for picks.

I don't think Simmons gets traded again until we see if he can actually play.

[CIN-C-STAR]

Gobert to PHX for Ayton makes sense.

S&T Ayton + Cam Johnson + Shamet, something like that for Gobert.

Gobert would be a good fit in PHX.

That sounds like a terrible deal for Phoenix as I'd much rather just keep Ayton, but Sarver is there so I guess it's a possibility

[CIN-C-STAR]

KOC idea of Gobert for Simmons is one I actually would love for both teams and the salaries work. Or Gobert for Simmons to re-route him elsewhere for picks.

simmons is a young socialite. So Utah is out.

Yeah why would Utah trade a great regular season guy who might disappoint in the playoffs but rarely ever misses a game, for a regular season guy who disappoints in the playoffs but rarely ever even plays
And that's without even getting into the fact that Simmons would not be happy about living and playing in Utah (and when Simmons isn't happy about something it becomes a full-blown mental illness and he can't get over it).

[BadWolf]

Capella and Okongwu for Gobert?
capella, Collins, Galo for Gobert and Bogs? Bojan and Bogdan are destined to play together.

[celticfan42487]

I mean just how good are Mitchell and Gobert?

Is Gobert someone you can count on in the playoffs?

Is a no defense playing Mitchell really much more than a run of the mill all-star in this league?

It's hard for me to put together a trade package when I'm unsure that the assets are extremely valuable. 2 years ago sure Mitchell would have fetched a large bounty and hopes he'd grow but now... idk. Undersized scoring guard is undersized scoring guard. That's always going to be an issue for a team looking to win knowing he'll give up as many layups as he makes in a matchup.

Perhaps the market for Mitchell should be teams that looked at what Utah just did for the last 4 years and thought "omg that's amazing I'd suck some **** to get that". So maybe the Magic or the Rockets. Or maybe the Thunder are willing to throw some picks to pick him up and expect to get a return on that investment idk.

[InsideInfo]

Vuc/Coby White and picks for Gobert?

[kenwood3333]

I don't think both will be traded, so any scenarios that come up would be to bring in players to compliment the player to keep. If Gobert is the one to keep, then they need to bring in players who can get him easy buckets and outside shooters. Someone like a CP3 type who had success with D Jordan back in the Clippers day. If Mitchell is the one sticking around, then the trade needs to bring in size and 3 and d players.

[dc]

I mean just how good are Mitchell and Gobert?

Is Gobert someone you can count on in the playoffs?

Is a no defense playing Mitchell really much more than a run of the mill all-star in this league?

It's hard for me to put together a trade package when I'm unsure that the assets are extremely valuable. 2 years ago sure Mitchell would have fetched a large bounty and hopes he'd grow but now... idk. Undersized scoring guard is undersized scoring guard. That's always going to be an issue for a team looking to win knowing he'll give up as many layups as he makes in a matchup.

If Utah trades Gobert, they'd have to overhaul almost the entire rest of the roster, as Gobert basically plays defense for everyone else. They'd likely be tanking for a year or 2.

Mitchell is kind of strange because he's sort of turned into the opposite type of player that people saw him as coming into the league. Back then he was seen more as an athletic defender who might give you some offense. Sort of like Davion Mitchell. Instead he's been a lead guard who gets targeted by the opposing team defensively. He's still a young guy and arguably the reason the Jazz would trade him (instead of Gobert) is that he can get more back in return and the roster wouldn't need the same type of overhaul compared to if they traded Gobert.

Gobert would also fetch something in return. Maybe not as much because he's older, makes so much money and is limited on the offensive end. He's still a very valuable piece, though. If you're the Jazz, you might put him on the block or put feelers on him just to see if a bidding war ensues. Defensively challenged teams like the Hornets or Hawks would love to have him.

Regardless, one thing I've learned over the years about the Jazz is that they're a well run organization and they end up putting out good teams over and over. Remember when everyone thought it'd be over for them as a small market backwater franchise when Stockton/Malone retired. But then it didn't take long for them to build some pretty good teams around Boozer/Deron/AK47. I think they basically only tanked 1 season (2004-2005) after the Stockton/Malone days and had 2 other basically .500 seasons before getting back to the playoffs.

Then they got a few decent years out of a Hayward/Gobert duo. When Hayward bolted, we figured they'd go in some decline, but they actually got better (in the regular season anyways) after drafting Mitchell .

[Jadoogar]

Gobert to PHX for Ayton makes sense.

S&T Ayton + Cam Johnson + Shamet, something like that for Gobert.

Gobert would be a good fit in PHX.

That sounds like a terrible deal for Phoenix as I'd much rather just keep Ayton, but Sarver is there so I guess it's a possibility

Ayton is a better younger version of Gobert and it's not like Gobert is cheap, you're not saving much

[babyjax13]

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FWIW I don't think Mitchell is asking out of Utah. I think he will if there isn't improvement next season. I can respect that.

[Slim Charless]

Gobert to PHX for Ayton makes sense.

S&T Ayton + Cam Johnson + Shamet, something like that for Gobert.

Gobert would be a good fit in PHX.

.....that's a great deal. If you're a fan of the Clippers.

How about I counter that and say PG13 for Gobert straight up? You guys need some defense and it will offer another all league D guy for KL to play with when he comes back.

Thoughts?

[Slim Charless]

I agree that's a good trade for both teams. Mitchell isn't staying so they might as well max out on him. I'd take that package over most of the others. Unless the NYK get a top 4 pick and offer that and RJ.

Raps start a FVV/Mitchell/Barnes/Siakam/ (Boucher+Precious) line-up. Your team defense can cover up for Mitchell and he can be the Batman putting FVV and Pasquale back to their more comfortable roles as #2 guys.

Mitchell is a lot smaller than i thought. 2 small guards like FVV/Mitchell is asking for trouble.

That's true, I highly doubt we keep Fred at PG if we ever made a move for Mitchell. We'd probably try to start Barnes at PG in that situation.

If anything, I'd think that since DM wants to have the ball in his hands you'd make him the point and have FVV the off-guard as he plays better defense anyways.

[Black Mage]

Zion for Mitchell and a pick or 2 swaps.

[_qubik]

With the Jazz now out of the playoffs and the Team overall looking to be medicore for a while if they keep their current core, I have some trade proposals regarding the Jazz 2 best players.




For Donovan Mitchell,there are several of teams that would be interested in Mitchell. The Knicks comes to mind the most. I'm thinking the Knicks would offer them R.J Barrett,Mitchell Robinson,Obi Toppin and 1-2 first round picks for Mitchell. This would bring the Jazz 3 young players with 1 future all star in R.J and some nice draft capital. Another team that would be interested and also has the assets to trade for Mitchell would be the Cavaliers. I see them giving up Lauri Markkanen,Colin Sexton(most likely) or Darius Garland if the Jazz can somehow get lucky, Carius LeVert(if the Jazz get Colin isntead Darius) and 2-3 first round picks.


As for Rudy Gobert, there are also team would like to get Rudy in trade. The Warriors come to mind due to the lack of big men they have. I could see them trading Andrew Wiggins,Josh Wisemen and maybe even Jonthan Kuminga for Rudy. This would give a soild player in Wiggins and another potential all star in Kuminga. Toronto would be interested as well. I see them giving up Gary Trent Jr,OG Anunoby and a first round pick for Rudy Gobert.

Keep in mind,these are the most clear of choice for the Jazz when it comes to trade package for those two guys. What other teams or trade packages could we see regarding the Jazz two best players?

I would only trade Gobert for bad salary, John Wall and WB level of bad salary, he is a good player, but he is so overpaid that it gets hard to build a balanced team, ge is a role player making top 10 money, I would never trade youngish talented guys like you mentioned

[monopoman]

Portland and the Knicks must try to get one of them right?

Portland have the assets but is it worth spending a ton of assets to upgrade from Nurkic to Gobert? I guess it is, or from Simons to Mitchell, I guess if they're competing with Dame they need to do one of the 2 trades using their 1st++

I have a feeling neither player makes sense for Portland, if Dame demands out Mitchell might be a reasonable target then. It seems like a huge cost to get Gobert when we have other more pressing needs elsewhere.

Mitchell also benefits heavily playing with Gobert, that really helps hide his defense based issues.

[ForeverTFC]

I don't know what Mitchell's market is but reporting has put Gobert's destinations as: Atlanta, Charlotte, Dallas and Toronto.

From Toronto's end, the only real package I can think of is something built around OG and even then I'm not so sure I'm willing to do that. Can't give up Siakam because we need someone to carry the offense. FVV/Trent doesn't really work for Utah (unless they are also trading Mitchell). I also don't know what Dallas offers so I think it'll be either Atlanta or Charlotte.

[Pharmcat]

What can lakers offer?

[Curmudgeon]

Gobert and Mitchell will be traded for much less than what Utah fans think they are worth. A plausible deal would be something like Gobert to Memphis for Adams, Brooks and Anderson. Utah gets serviceable players on much shorter deals.

As for Mitchell, I think he will be a Knick for Rose, Fournier and a first round draft pick or two.

[Nate505]

Gobert and Mitchell will be traded for much less than what Utah fans think they are worth. A plausible deal would be something like Gobert to Memphis for Adams, Brooks and Anderson. Utah gets serviceable players on much shorter deals.

As for Mitchell, I think he will be a Knick for Rose, Fournier and a first round draft pick or two.

Why on earth does Utah make the second trade? Unless that first round pick is like a Top 2?

[facothomas22]

Gobert and Mitchell will be traded for much less than what Utah fans think they are worth. A plausible deal would be something like Gobert to Memphis for Adams, Brooks and Anderson. Utah gets serviceable players on much shorter deals.

As for Mitchell, I think he will be a Knick for Rose, Fournier and a first round draft pick or two.

Mitchell is worth more than just Rose,Fournier and a 1st round pick. The Jazz in your proposed deal would be getting a older player in Derrick Rose and Evan Fournier who had a disappointing season,along with a 1st round pick. I don't think the Jazz does this. I believe that any Donovan Mitchell trade that include the Knicks would include RJ Barrett and a first round pick at least.