’06 Dwyane Wade/Dirk Nowitzki vs ’22 Luka Doncic/Nikola Jokic

[ccameron]

Ah, you're going season by season in the individual shooting pages instead of looking at the single lines. Yes, it's 0-3 feet. I'm looking at the block on the main player page, here, for example. But also I wasn't looking at total attempts, I was looking at percentage of total FGA.

I never noticed that columnn where you can see FGA by distance as a percentage of total shots, that's useful.

[tsherkin]

Ah, you're going season by season in the individual shooting pages instead of looking at the single lines. Yes, it's 0-3 feet. I'm looking at the block on the main player page, here, for example. But also I wasn't looking at total attempts, I was looking at percentage of total FGA.

I never noticed that columnn where you can see FGA by distance as a percentage of total shots, that's useful.

It's wicked useful, yeah.

[ccameron]

lebron is kind of different to wade cause his finishing touch kept improving past his athletic prime and his size/body mass means he didnt depend as much on his first step to score at the rim

I'm not sure what we can take away from Lebron's progression of shots and efficiency at the rim, but I don't think his increase in shots at the rim in the later end of his prime was all due to his increasing finesse. It's not just efficiency, a larger number of his shots were at the rim. He's a machine, but he was definitely more athletic in his early prime, which theoretically should have offset at least some of his improvement in finishing touch. I don't know how much of it can be shown in the stats but it's hard for me to believe the spacing around the rim doesn't have something to do with it.

[tsherkin]

lebron is kind of different to wade cause his finishing touch kept improving past his athletic prime and his size/body mass means he didnt depend as much on his first step to score at the rim

I'm not sure what we can take away from Lebron's progression of shots and efficiency at the rim, but I don't think his increase in shots at the rim in the later end of his prime was all due to his increasing finesse. It's not just efficiency, a larger number of his shots were at the rim. He's a machine, but he was definitely more athletic in his early prime, which theoretically should have offset at least some of his improvement in finishing touch. I don't know how much of it can be shown in the stats but it's hard for me to believe the spacing around the rim doesn't have something to do with it.

Playing closer to the basket as a PF and C has more to do with it than anything else.

[falcolombardi]

lebron is kind of different to wade cause his finishing touch kept improving past his athletic prime and his size/body mass means he didnt depend as much on his first step to score at the rim

I'm not sure what we can take away from Lebron's progression of shots and efficiency at the rim, but I don't think his increase in shots at the rim in the later end of his prime was all due to his increasing finesse. It's not just efficiency, a larger number of his shots were at the rim. He's a machine, but he was definitely more athletic in his early prime, which theoretically should have offset at least some of his improvement in finishing touch. I don't know how much of it can be shown in the stats but it's hard for me to believe the spacing around the rim doesn't have something to do with it.

it helps of course, my point is that in his case is probably a combination of thinghs rather thsn just the league changes