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Re: Around the League 2021-2022 

Post#501 » by Calinks » Thu Apr 7, 2022 3:18 pm

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Calinks wrote:Man, I bet a bunch on the Suns thinking they would whoop the Clippers. Had no idea they rested their entire damn team. Tragic.


Sorry man. I try to avoid any kind of sports betting with less than two weeks in a season, just to unpredictable. The good news is you can probably make it back in the playoffs betting on the Nets to clobber the Heat, or whoever ends up in second if they take 7th.

That's a good rule, I didn't even consider the possibility of them sitting a bunch of guys lol. Man that sucked.
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Re: Around the League 2021-2022 

Post#502 » by Klomp » Thu Apr 7, 2022 6:49 pm



I think this is a very interesting conversation (currently listening to the entire conversation). First of all, it shows a bit of the roster construction you see both here and around the league pertaining to the lack of PFs. But also the part earlier where JJ talked about the 3-point shooters and coaches designing plays speaks to the importance of someone like Malik Beasley. Honestly, I think it's fair to say his improvement from early in the season is as big a key as any to our turnaround.

I think it also speaks to the importance of evaluating more than just college tape when looking at prospects. Someone like Jaden or Zach LaVine gets overly criticized for his college performance, but the NBA is like a whole different game. It's not a 1:1 comparison. The skill set of these players is paramount.
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Re: Around the League 2021-2022 

Post#503 » by _AIJ_ » Fri Apr 8, 2022 1:58 am

Welp, gordon having the game of his life
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Re: Around the League 2021-2022 

Post#504 » by Calinks » Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:42 am

Was watching the Clippers game and they were talking about how Awesome Target Center used to be, they talked about a super fan I never heard of and it was a really cool story. Looked him up.

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Re: Around the League 2021-2022 

Post#505 » by minimus » Mon Apr 11, 2022 6:02 am

https://clutchpoints.com/kings-rumors-the-reason-donte-divincenzo-sacramento-relationship-is-now-broken/

How much Donte can get this off-season? I mean maximum deal.

I would trade Beasley to get him on long deal around 12-13 mil per year. Is sign and trade possible?
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Re: Around the League 2021-2022 

Post#506 » by minimus » Wed Apr 13, 2022 6:27 pm

Miles Bridges wants 173 mil / 5 yrs... Maybe we can steal PJ Washington?
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Re: Around the League 2021-2022 

Post#507 » by minimus » Thu May 5, 2022 2:40 pm

I hope David Vanterpool get a chance that he deserves. Also this will add some extra juice to MIN vs CHA games. Ant vs Melo, Vanterpool vs former team.

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Post#508 » by old school 34 » Sat May 7, 2022 8:45 am

minimus wrote:https://clutchpoints.com/kings-rumors-the-reason-donte-divincenzo-sacramento-relationship-is-now-broken/

How much Donte can get this off-season? I mean maximum deal.

I would trade Beasley to get him on long deal around 12-13 mil per year. Is sign and trade possible?
This is something I've missed...very interesting as I haven't given him much thought being an rfa there & seemingly having a clear lane in Sac?

And there has been some talk that I've heard one of MN's goals is to have more of a true 6th man microwave type (maybe some because a potential DLo trade--where he was kinda that for the bench unit &/or some other potential tweaks there--Jaden/Bev/V8 all potentially switching from start/bench sides)...just saying if some of that stuff starts to be the route...definitely, even moreso makes sense of a Donte/Beasley swap?

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Re: Around the League 2021-2022 

Post#509 » by minimus » Mon May 9, 2022 8:29 am

old school 34 wrote:
minimus wrote:https://clutchpoints.com/kings-rumors-the-reason-donte-divincenzo-sacramento-relationship-is-now-broken/

How much Donte can get this off-season? I mean maximum deal.

I would trade Beasley to get him on long deal around 12-13 mil per year. Is sign and trade possible?
This is something I've missed...very interesting as I haven't given him much thought being an rfa there & seemingly having a clear lane in Sac?

And there has been some talk that I've heard one of MN's goals is to have more of a true 6th man microwave type (maybe some because a potential DLo trade--where he was kinda that for the bench unit &/or some other potential tweaks there--Jaden/Bev/V8 all potentially switching from start/bench sides)...just saying if some of that stuff starts to be the route...definitely, even moreso makes sense of a Donte/Beasley swap?


I thought about Beasley - Donte swap because of I thought that Malik's contract is the only viable solution to make this trade happen from financial standpoint. However, as well as I understand we can execute sign-trade and and SAC create trade exception, and we can trade Nowell in separate deal as sweetener. At this point I'd keep Beasley because he is the only C&S shooter in our team. And, yes, I like Donte defense a lot. He, Beverly, MCD and Vando would be fun to watch.
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Re: Around the League 2021-2022 

Post#510 » by Jstock12 » Mon May 9, 2022 2:46 pm

RIP Adreian Payne...
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Re: Around the League 2021-2022 

Post#511 » by minimus » Mon May 9, 2022 2:58 pm

Jstock12 wrote:RIP Adreian Payne...


Sad news...
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Re: Around the League 2021-2022 

Post#512 » by cpfsf » Mon May 9, 2022 7:49 pm



I watch this video once every now and then. its the first thing i think about when payne's name gets brought up.
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Re: Around the League 2021-2022 

Post#513 » by Calinks » Mon May 9, 2022 10:50 pm

Was listening to ESPN radio today and they were heated about Jokic getting MVP over Embiid, it seemed kind of weird like they were really pissed. Talk about how Jokic was defensive liability and how the Sixers would be no where if they didn't have Joel while the Nuggets would still be able to get the 6th seed if they were healthy except for Joker.
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Re: Around the League 2021-2022 

Post#514 » by winforlose » Sat Jul 2, 2022 9:45 pm

What do you guys think of maxing Zion? Personally I think with injuries and weight issues he is the next Wiggins. But I also get why the did it. Cannot really trade him for value now with his issues and don’t want to risk losing him for nothing.

What do you guys think about Cavs maxing Garland? think it was the right move, but curious about your takes.
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Re: Around the League 2021-2022 

Post#515 » by KGdaBom » Sat Jul 2, 2022 10:58 pm

winforlose wrote:What do you guys think of maxing Zion? Personally I think with injuries and weight issues he is the next Wiggins. But I also get why the did it. Cannot really trade him for value now with his issues and don’t want to risk losing him for nothing.

What do you guys think about Cavs maxing Garland? think it was the right move, but curious about your takes.

I don't see Garland as Max worthy, but I didn't pay attention to him last year. Maybe he got better.
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Re: Around the League 2021-2022 

Post#516 » by life_saver » Sat Jul 2, 2022 11:10 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
winforlose wrote:What do you guys think of maxing Zion? Personally I think with injuries and weight issues he is the next Wiggins. But I also get why the did it. Cannot really trade him for value now with his issues and don’t want to risk losing him for nothing.

What do you guys think about Cavs maxing Garland? think it was the right move, but curious about your takes.

I don't see Garland as Max worthy, but I didn't pay attention to him last year. Maybe he got better.

he was very good last season. Improved both his playmaking and scoring. Not surprised to see him getting max
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Re: Around the League 2021-2022 

Post#517 » by BlacJacMac » Sun Jul 3, 2022 1:50 am

KGdaBom wrote:
winforlose wrote:What do you guys think of maxing Zion? Personally I think with injuries and weight issues he is the next Wiggins. But I also get why the did it. Cannot really trade him for value now with his issues and don’t want to risk losing him for nothing.

What do you guys think about Cavs maxing Garland? think it was the right move, but curious about your takes.

I don't see Garland as Max worthy, but I didn't pay attention to him last year. Maybe he got better.


22 PPG on 46/38/89 shooting. 8.5 Assists, 1.3 Steals. Went from being a negative on defense to a significant positive (if you believe in RPM) or at least neutral (if RAPTOR is your thing).

On/Off says Cleveland was way better on offense (116 vs 107) and defense (109 vs 112) when he was on the floor.

Rosas was absolutely right about targeting him - his big failure was making the trade before knowing if he'd be there.
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Re: Around the League 2021-2022 

Post#518 » by KGdaBom » Sun Jul 3, 2022 1:53 am

BlacJacMac wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
winforlose wrote:What do you guys think of maxing Zion? Personally I think with injuries and weight issues he is the next Wiggins. But I also get why the did it. Cannot really trade him for value now with his issues and don’t want to risk losing him for nothing.

What do you guys think about Cavs maxing Garland? think it was the right move, but curious about your takes.

I don't see Garland as Max worthy, but I didn't pay attention to him last year. Maybe he got better.


22 PPG on 46/38/89 shooting. 8.5 Assists, 1.3 Steals. Went from being a negative on defense to a significant positive (if you believe in RPM) or at least neutral (if RAPTOR is your thing).

On/Off says Cleveland was way better on offense (116 vs 107) and defense (109 vs 112) when he was on the floor.

Rosas was absolutely right about targeting him - his big failure was making the trade before knowing if he'd be there.

He got better. To think we came one pick late of getting him and ended up blowing the #6 overall pick on Culver.
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Re: Around the League 2021-2022 

Post#519 » by BlacJacMac » Sun Jul 3, 2022 2:20 am

KGdaBom wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I don't see Garland as Max worthy, but I didn't pay attention to him last year. Maybe he got better.


22 PPG on 46/38/89 shooting. 8.5 Assists, 1.3 Steals. Went from being a negative on defense to a significant positive (if you believe in RPM) or at least neutral (if RAPTOR is your thing).

On/Off says Cleveland was way better on offense (116 vs 107) and defense (109 vs 112) when he was on the floor.

Rosas was absolutely right about targeting him - his big failure was making the trade before knowing if he'd be there.

He got better. To think we came one pick late of getting him and ended up blowing the #6 overall pick on Culver.


And we wouldn't have made the trade for D'Lo is we had Garland.
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Re: Around the League 2021-2022 

Post#520 » by KGdaBom » Sun Jul 3, 2022 2:21 am

BlacJacMac wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
22 PPG on 46/38/89 shooting. 8.5 Assists, 1.3 Steals. Went from being a negative on defense to a significant positive (if you believe in RPM) or at least neutral (if RAPTOR is your thing).

On/Off says Cleveland was way better on offense (116 vs 107) and defense (109 vs 112) when he was on the floor.

Rosas was absolutely right about targeting him - his big failure was making the trade before knowing if he'd be there.

He got better. To think we came one pick late of getting him and ended up blowing the #6 overall pick on Culver.


And we wouldn't have made the trade for D'Lo is we had Garland.

Then we wouldn't have ended up with Ant so maybe it was all meant to be.

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