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Post#1441 » by phillynative » Wed May 4, 2022 1:15 pm

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phillynative wrote:Furk and Matisse for Larry Nance jr.


Pull that off and you may be arrested for grand larceny.

Lol hey now 1 is a elite defender one of the best in the league. The other is is a young point forward who can get hot from deep. Larry Nance is just a tweener with hops . :wink:
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Post#1442 » by Sam Hinkie » Thu May 5, 2022 4:17 am

This is a trade I don't really want to make but I could see it happening because Morey is obsessed with "stars" and Embiid wanted him instead of Harden at the deadline. (I happen to find Beal very overrated.)

A package revolving around Beal/Kuzma/KCP to the Sixers for Maxey/Harris/Thybulle/Green and possibly some picks. Harris would probably be redirected to a third team like the Lakers (possibly for Westbrook & picks).

Harden
Beal
KCP
Kuzma
Embiid

It's an interesting lineup
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Post#1443 » by Sam Hinkie » Thu May 5, 2022 5:53 am

Doc to LAL, D'Antoni to PHI

LAL In: Tobias Harris, Christian Wood
LAL Out: Westbrook, Future 1st, Future 2nd, Future 2nd

PHI In: Eric Gordon, Lu Dort, Kyle Kuzma, Kantavius Caldwell-Pope, David Nwaba, Mike Muscala
PHI Out: Future 1st, Tobias Harris, Jaden Springer, Matisse Thybulle, Furkan Korkmaz, Danny Green (non-guaranteed)

Hou In: Russell Westbrook, LAL future 1st, PHI Future 1st
Hou Out: Eric Gordon, Christian Wood, David Nwaba

WAS In: Matisse Thybulle, Furkan Korkmaz, two Lakers 2nds, Danny Green (waived, non-guaranteed)
WAS Out: Kyle Kuzma, Kantavius Caldwell-Pope

OKC In: Jaden Springer
OKC Out: Lu Dort, Mike Muscala


Sixers lineup:

PG: James Harden, KCP
SG: Tyrese Maxey, Eric Gordon
SF: Lu Dort, David Nwaba
PF: Kyle Kuzma, George Niang
C: Joel Embiid, Mike Muscala

We get much tougher with much better shooting.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1444 » by mjkvol » Thu May 5, 2022 1:05 pm

Sam Hinkie wrote:Doc to LAL, D'Antoni to PHI

LAL In: Tobias Harris, Christian Wood
LAL Out: Westbrook, Future 1st, Future 2nd, Future 2nd

PHI In: Eric Gordon, Lu Dort, Kyle Kuzma, Kantavius Caldwell-Pope, David Nwaba, Mike Muscala
PHI Out: Future 1st, Tobias Harris, Jaden Springer, Matisse Thybulle, Furkan Korkmaz, Danny Green (non-guaranteed)

Hou In: Russell Westbrook, LAL future 1st, PHI Future 1st
Hou Out: Eric Gordon, Christian Wood, David Nwaba

WAS In: Matisse Thybulle, Furkan Korkmaz, two Lakers 2nds, Danny Green (waived, non-guaranteed)
WAS Out: Kyle Kuzma, Kantavius Caldwell-Pope

OKC In: Jaden Springer
OKC Out: Lu Dort, Mike Muscala


Sixers lineup:

PG: James Harden, KCP
SG: Tyrese Maxey, Eric Gordon
SF: Lu Dort, David Nwaba
PF: Kyle Kuzma, George Niang
C: Joel Embiid, Mike Muscala

We get much tougher with much better shooting.


I wouldn't do your first trade, but this one in a heartbeat, although it is too good to be true. Dumping all our garbage (with respect to DG), including the coach, and ending up with a team that can compete along with a new coach? And not having to give up Maxey, Reed, or Bassey? Do it and build a statue of Morey.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1445 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Fri May 6, 2022 1:42 pm

I'm curious what Detroit will ask for Jerami Grant and if it's at all possible for us to get him while still keeping Embiid, Harris, and Harden. Harden/Maxey/Grant/Harris/Embiid is one hell of a starting five. Grant doesn't want to be there, but I don't know who they'd want from us and I don't see how it could even be worked out. My guess is at the very least they're asking for Springer, Thybulle, or Reed with a pick and then Danny Green. It's Jerami Grant though, he'd be a hell of an addition. Switchable with Tobias Harris, can hit the open three. No more Niang/Tobias pairing. He'd cost some assets, but I'd do it. Figuring out how to keep him here would be another mountain to climb I'm sure.
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Post#1446 » by the_process » Fri May 6, 2022 3:27 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I'm curious what Detroit will ask for Jerami Grant and if it's at all possible for us to get him while still keeping Embiid, Harris, and Harden. Harden/Maxey/Grant/Harris/Embiid is one hell of a starting five. Grant doesn't want to be there, but I don't know who they'd want from us and I don't see how it could even be worked out. My guess is at the very least they're asking for Springer, Thybulle, or Reed with a pick and then Danny Green. It's Jerami Grant though, he'd be a hell of an addition. Switchable with Tobias Harris, can hit the open three. No more Niang/Tobias pairing. He'd cost some assets, but I'd do it. Figuring out how to keep him here would be another mountain to climb I'm sure.


I don't really want either Harris or Grant guarding wings full time though. If you can move Harris for assets and use those assets for Grant... sure.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1447 » by Jailblazers7 » Fri May 6, 2022 5:45 pm

Sam Hinkie wrote:Doc to LAL, D'Antoni to PHI

LAL In: Tobias Harris, Christian Wood
LAL Out: Westbrook, Future 1st, Future 2nd, Future 2nd

PHI In: Eric Gordon, Lu Dort, Kyle Kuzma, Kantavius Caldwell-Pope, David Nwaba, Mike Muscala
PHI Out: Future 1st, Tobias Harris, Jaden Springer, Matisse Thybulle, Furkan Korkmaz, Danny Green (non-guaranteed)

Hou In: Russell Westbrook, LAL future 1st, PHI Future 1st
Hou Out: Eric Gordon, Christian Wood, David Nwaba

WAS In: Matisse Thybulle, Furkan Korkmaz, two Lakers 2nds, Danny Green (waived, non-guaranteed)
WAS Out: Kyle Kuzma, Kantavius Caldwell-Pope

OKC In: Jaden Springer
OKC Out: Lu Dort, Mike Muscala


Sixers lineup:

PG: James Harden, KCP
SG: Tyrese Maxey, Eric Gordon
SF: Lu Dort, David Nwaba
PF: Kyle Kuzma, George Niang
C: Joel Embiid, Mike Muscala

We get much tougher with much better shooting.


I like the idea but that probably selling low on Dort for OKC. But overall, I can kinda see why each team would be interested in something along these lines. It would give us a nice little youth movement to pair with Maxey as Joel & Harden age too.
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Post#1448 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat May 7, 2022 11:14 am

So the Donovan Mitchell thing is interesting. Not sure what else we could add to Harris, Thybulle, and a FRP without gutting our roster. Mitchell is signed long-term so he wont be choose where he wants to go.
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Post#1449 » by Kobblehead » Sat May 7, 2022 11:56 am

I'm guessing Utah's starting point would be Maxey and 2 first round picks and then all the salary matching pieces after.

Mitchell is only 25, is locked up longterm, is healthy, and has carried a lottery worthy Jazz roster to the playoffs each year he's been in the NBA. I think the asking price for getting him would be enormous.
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Post#1450 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sat May 7, 2022 12:08 pm

Yeah, I love Donovan Mitchell, but Utah will demand a lot for him. You can kiss Maxey goodbye along with multiple assets. I'm also not quite sure how much better Mitchell is than Maxey as their careers progress. Maxey obviously isn't where Mitchell is yet as a player, but he's close.
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Post#1451 » by Kobblehead » Sat May 7, 2022 12:24 pm

I have some regret we ended up with Harden when we likely could have had Mitchell if we just waited a few months, but whatever. We can still cash in on a title in the next couple of years. We may even win it this year if we take control of this Miami series now that we're fielding our real team (I think we're clearly better than them when healthy).
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Post#1452 » by mjkvol » Sat May 7, 2022 1:50 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:So the Donovan Mitchell thing is interesting. Not sure what else we could add to Harris, Thybulle, and a FRP without gutting our roster. Mitchell is signed long-term so he wont be choose where he wants to go.


I love Mitchell, but the bare starting point would be Maxey and picks, and you go from there. Harris and Thybulle might net you a solid player, but this kid is on an entirely different level, and is locked into a deal.

Can Maxey be as good or better than Mitchell, that's the question Morey has to answer if this was ever to become a thing. Giving up a beloved homegrown kid with 'star' written all over him who works his ass off and wants to be great here is not a decision I would want to have to make.
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Post#1453 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat May 7, 2022 2:32 pm

mjkvol wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:So the Donovan Mitchell thing is interesting. Not sure what else we could add to Harris, Thybulle, and a FRP without gutting our roster. Mitchell is signed long-term so he wont be choose where he wants to go.


I love Mitchell, but the bare starting point would be Maxey and picks, and you go from there. Harris and Thybulle might net you a solid player, but this kid is on an entirely different level, and is locked into a deal.

Can Maxey be as good or better than Mitchell, that's the question Morey has to answer if this was ever to become a thing. To me, giving up a beloved homegrown kid with 'star' written all over him who works his ass off and wants to be great here is not a decision I would want to have to make.


Agree with you 100%. I would not be willing to give up Maxey for Mitchell. I think Beal is a nice consolation prize and wouldn’t require Maxey in the transaction because of his free agency status. Harris + Thybulle + Korkmaz for Beal and Kuzma. Sign Harden to a 4-year, $180 mil deal.

Harden(32)/Maxey(16)
Beal(32)/Maxey(16)
MLE(28)/Green(20)
Kuzma(28)/Reed(20)
Embiid(32)/Bassey(16)

Harden/Maxey/Springer
Beal/Milton/Joe
MLE/Green/(Vet min)
Kuzma/Reed/Niang
Embiid/Bassey/(Vet min)

Only issue becomes who you keep on the floor during end of game situations. Can a Harden-Maxey-Beal lineup work?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1454 » by mjkvol » Sat May 7, 2022 2:46 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:So the Donovan Mitchell thing is interesting. Not sure what else we could add to Harris, Thybulle, and a FRP without gutting our roster. Mitchell is signed long-term so he wont be choose where he wants to go.


I love Mitchell, but the bare starting point would be Maxey and picks, and you go from there. Harris and Thybulle might net you a solid player, but this kid is on an entirely different level, and is locked into a deal.

Can Maxey be as good or better than Mitchell, that's the question Morey has to answer if this was ever to become a thing. To me, giving up a beloved homegrown kid with 'star' written all over him who works his ass off and wants to be great here is not a decision I would want to have to make.


Agree with you 100%. I would not be willing to give up Maxey for Mitchell. I think Beal is a nice consolation prize and wouldn’t require Maxey in the transaction because of his free agency status. Harris + Thybulle + Korkmaz for Beal and Kuzma. Sign Harden to a 4-year, $180 mil deal.

Harden(32)/Maxey(16)
Beal(32)/Maxey(16)
MLE(28)/Green(20)
Kuzma(28)/Reed(20)
Embiid(32)/Bassey(16)

Harden/Maxey/Springer
Beal/Milton/Joe
MLE/Green/(Vet min)
Kuzma/Reed/Niang
Embiid/Bassey/(Vet min)

Only issue becomes who you keep on the floor during end of game situations. Can a Harden-Maxey-Beal lineup work?


I just don't know that the best way to use the Harris / Thybulle chips is Beal. Do we really need another scorer that will require a max deal or are we better off bringing in needs like 3&D wings and a backup PG?

I don't like Maxey as the backup PG, I think his minutes should all be at the 2 guard spot, where he is clearly at home. Shake isn't the answer, I think we all know that at this point. Could Springer be that guy, or is he gone in one deal or another?
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Post#1455 » by davesilver » Sat May 7, 2022 3:26 pm

Hate to say this but

Jazz offers Mitchell, O’Neal, Gay for Harris, Maxey, Springer

Do you say yes

Harden Mitchell Green O’Neal Embiid
Shake Furk Matisse Gay Reed

I’d probably stick with Maxey with his growth in the 3P%
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Post#1456 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat May 7, 2022 3:52 pm

mjkvol wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
I love Mitchell, but the bare starting point would be Maxey and picks, and you go from there. Harris and Thybulle might net you a solid player, but this kid is on an entirely different level, and is locked into a deal.

Can Maxey be as good or better than Mitchell, that's the question Morey has to answer if this was ever to become a thing. To me, giving up a beloved homegrown kid with 'star' written all over him who works his ass off and wants to be great here is not a decision I would want to have to make.


Agree with you 100%. I would not be willing to give up Maxey for Mitchell. I think Beal is a nice consolation prize and wouldn’t require Maxey in the transaction because of his free agency status. Harris + Thybulle + Korkmaz for Beal and Kuzma. Sign Harden to a 4-year, $180 mil deal.

Harden(32)/Maxey(16)
Beal(32)/Maxey(16)
MLE(28)/Green(20)
Kuzma(28)/Reed(20)
Embiid(32)/Bassey(16)

Harden/Maxey/Springer
Beal/Milton/Joe
MLE/Green/(Vet min)
Kuzma/Reed/Niang
Embiid/Bassey/(Vet min)

Only issue becomes who you keep on the floor during end of game situations. Can a Harden-Maxey-Beal lineup work?


I just don't know that the best way to use the Harris / Thybulle chips is Beal. Do we really need another scorer that will require a max deal or are we better off bringing in needs like 3&D wings and a backup PG?

I don't like Maxey as the backup PG, I think his minutes should all be at the 2 guard spot, where he is clearly at home. Shake isn't the answer, I think we all know that at this point. Could Springer be that guy, or is he gone in one deal or another?


Id love to swap Harris + Thybulle for a big wing who can score and defend but idk if that players out there. Someone in the Jimmy or Kawhi mold but less expensive.

As for Milton, i dont think he gets playing time next year. Springer could definitely be the 3rd guard.
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Post#1457 » by mjkvol » Sat May 7, 2022 3:53 pm

davesilver wrote:Hate to say this but

Jazz offers Mitchell, O’Neal, Gay for Harris, Maxey, Springer

Do you say yes

Harden Mitchell Green O’Neal Embiid
Shake Furk Matisse Gay Reed

I’d probably stick with Maxey with his growth in the 3P%


I say no, and absolutely don't want to go with that bench unit and Green as a starter. Now replace Maxey with Thybulle and throw in a pick or two and it's a different story.
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Post#1458 » by davesilver » Sat May 7, 2022 4:07 pm

mjkvol wrote:
davesilver wrote:Hate to say this but

Jazz offers Mitchell, O’Neal, Gay for Harris, Maxey, Springer

Do you say yes

Harden Mitchell Green O’Neal Embiid
Shake Furk Matisse Gay Reed

I’d probably stick with Maxey with his growth in the 3P%


I say no, and absolutely don't want to go with that bench unit and Green as a starter. Now replace Maxey with Thybulle and throw in a pick or two and it's a different story.


‘28 1st (top 3 protected), ‘22/‘23 pick swap, Matisse, Shake, Harris for Mitchell, O’Neal, Clarkson please :P

Not sure what is tradeable with the BKN deal
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Post#1459 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat May 7, 2022 5:34 pm

Harris/Thybulle/Shake for Bojan/O’Neale/Clarkson would be pretty dope.


Harden/Clarkson/Springer
Maxey/Green/Joe
Bojan/O’Neale/Korkmaz
MLE/Reed/Niang
Embiid/Bassey/(Vet min)

Covington would’ve been perfect there but he signed an extension with the Clips :(
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Post#1460 » by mjkvol » Sat May 7, 2022 6:05 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Harris/Thybulle for Bojan/O’Neale/Clarkson would be pretty dope.


Harden/Springer/Milton
Maxey/Clarkson/Joe
Bojan/O’Neale/Korkmaz
MLE/Reed/Niang
Embiid/Bassey/(Vet min)

Covington would’ve been perfect there but he signed an extension with the Clips :(


I love that deal.
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