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2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pic: Poll added

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If Bulls keep the pick, who should they select?

Jalen Williams
7
11%
Tari Eason
18
29%
Nikola Jovic
4
6%
Mark Williams
18
29%
Ochai Agbaji
1
2%
TyTy Washington
0
No votes
Ousmane Dieng
0
No votes
Malaki Branham
2
3%
EJ Liddell
8
13%
Jeremy Sochan
4
6%
 
Total votes: 62

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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#401 » by madvillian » Fri May 6, 2022 8:13 pm

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TheSuzerain wrote:I think there's a good chance he's there. He's very raw.


If both those guys are on the board the draft is already a HR for Chicago either way. I doubt Kessler drops to 18 however. Miller is so raw I expect him to be there late 1st. He's a Poole type imo. A guy that hopefully in three years is a borderline star but will need patience. Kessler I feel would be an immediate help in Chicago.

Speaking of Michigan guys (Poole)...I wonder if/how high Diabate will go. He is raw, but showed improvement during the season. He isn't currently in draft.net's mock 1st or 2nd round, but if we could buy a 2nd rounder, he has a high ceiling. I'm rooting for him to return to school next season though.


Yea I have no idea on him. He frustrated the **** of me this year that's for sure. One minute he's going coast to coast for a slam the next he's fumbling a wide open pass out of bounds or leaving his man wide open at the three point line.

He could def use more schooling imo but who knows if he gets a promise he might go. He can't get NIL because he's foreign which sucks for him and Michigan.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#402 » by Bulls Fan 23 » Sat May 7, 2022 10:24 am

Tankathon has Tari Eason mocked to the Bulls at18. If that happens it's a homerun. I just don't see him falling to us.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

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Post#404 » by StunnerKO » Sat May 7, 2022 4:02 pm

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Post#405 » by Chi town » Sat May 7, 2022 7:35 pm

Bulls Fan 23 wrote:Tankathon has Tari Eason mocked to the Bulls at18. If that happens it's a homerun. I just don't see him falling to us.


Someone would trade up for him if he’s falling.

I like Sochan Eason Brown and Moore for us at 18.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#406 » by Bulldog23 » Sun May 8, 2022 1:27 pm

Dyson Daniels…like his game. He is a wing with a little bounce and aggression. He reminds me of Wil Barton…He can swing between 2 to 4. I like Troy Brown, but his athleticism as far as speed and bounce isn’t their..this kid has that. This might be a draft where you trade back…I wonder if the Bulls can trade the 18 for the Spurs two picks in the first round.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#407 » by StunnerKO » Sun May 8, 2022 3:59 pm

If only the bulls drafted Draymond or Barton like they were suppose to , but no let’s get Teague I hated them for that .
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#408 » by Jvaughn » Sun May 8, 2022 9:41 pm

CROBulls wrote:
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CROBulls wrote:Dont draft next Patrick Williams. Just draft next Ayo. I am talking about basketball mentality and intelligence how to play basketball to contribute. Raw tools is important, but it's not that most important. Dont pass on two or three year college basketball player because one prospect has better tools. Also I am not saying pass on raw prospect either. Judge them by intelligence of how they play ball. Do they get it, and if they get it do you see path for them to aquire new skill and use that skill. Tools themselves are meaningless if you dont use tools. Just like intelligence is meaningless if you dont use it and help yourself.

Ayo went from guy who did everything at college to role playing at NBA as rookie and didnt even felt it like it was struggle to adjust to new environment, new players, new role. Guys like that exist, now AK draft another one.

We have plenty of these guys though. We need elite frontcourt athletes and shooting

Like Patrick Williams? You wont find Giannis and KD guys at our range.


But Giannis was literally drafted in our range. Is it likely that we get a generational talent in that slot? No, but there are great players in every draft selected after the lottery.

2020- Bey, Quickley, Bane
2019- Poole, Bazley, THT
2018- RWiii, Simons, Heuerter
2017-OG, Collins, Allen
2016- Dejounte, Pascal, Levert
2015- Oubre, Tyus, Portis

Just have to be a good enough scout to recognize the talent. There are reasons why teams Toronto, Miami, and San Antonio continually find gems in late round situations.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#409 » by Dresden » Mon May 9, 2022 4:03 pm

Jvaughn wrote:
CROBulls wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:We have plenty of these guys though. We need elite frontcourt athletes and shooting

Like Patrick Williams? You wont find Giannis and KD guys at our range.


But Giannis was literally drafted in our range. Is it likely that we get a generational talent in that slot? No, but there are great players in every draft selected after the lottery.

2020- Bey, Quickley, Bane
2019- Poole, Bazley, THT
2018- RWiii, Simons, Heuerter
2017-OG, Collins, Allen
2016- Dejounte, Pascal, Levert
2015- Oubre, Tyus, Portis

Just have to be a good enough scout to recognize the talent. There are reasons why teams Toronto, Miami, and San Antonio continually find gems in late round situations.


Scouting may play a factor, but I think it's luck more than anything. I don't think any organization has a magic formula that allows them to consistently pick winners. Having a system that allows players to utilize their talents to the fullest helps too. Look at Bobby Portis- here people couldn't wait to get rid of him. But he played a key part on a championship team because they were able to use him in a way that maxed out his potential. And now some posters here are rueing the day we let him go.

But more than anything, there's going to be a small handful of gems late in any draft. Some teams will get lucky and pick those guys, which then makes them look like geniuses.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#410 » by Dresden » Mon May 9, 2022 4:04 pm

What about that center from Duke, with the 7'7" wingspan. He's supposed to go right around where we pick.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#411 » by CROBulls » Mon May 9, 2022 6:39 pm

Dresden wrote:
Scouting may play a factor, but I think it's luck more than anything. I don't think any organization has a magic formula that allows them to consistently pick winners. Having a system that allows players to utilize their talents to the fullest helps too. Look at Bobby Portis- here people couldn't wait to get rid of him. But he played a key part on a championship team because they were able to use him in a way that maxed out his potential. And now some posters here are rueing the day we let him go.

But more than anything, there's going to be a small handful of gems late in any draft. Some teams will get lucky and pick those guys, which then makes them look like geniuses.

There was nothing wrong with Bobby as player except issue which happened with Mirotic. He was by miles best Bulls draft pick since Jimmy and it showed on court. And he got traded away not for basketball ability.

Also its not like Bobby is someone who got away. He was player good enough you knew he would stay in league for long time and likely slowly improved, but also not someone Bulls would regret passing or not extending.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#412 » by LateNight » Mon May 9, 2022 7:22 pm

CROBulls wrote:
Dresden wrote:
Scouting may play a factor, but I think it's luck more than anything. I don't think any organization has a magic formula that allows them to consistently pick winners. Having a system that allows players to utilize their talents to the fullest helps too. Look at Bobby Portis- here people couldn't wait to get rid of him. But he played a key part on a championship team because they were able to use him in a way that maxed out his potential. And now some posters here are rueing the day we let him go.

But more than anything, there's going to be a small handful of gems late in any draft. Some teams will get lucky and pick those guys, which then makes them look like geniuses.

There was nothing wrong with Bobby as player except issue which happened with Mirotic. He was by miles best Bulls draft pick since Jimmy and it showed on court. And he got traded away not for basketball ability.

Also its not like Bobby is someone who got away. He was player good enough you knew he would stay in league for long time and likely slowly improved, but also not someone Bulls would regret passing or not extending.


We ditched both Bobby and Mirotic because we wanted to tank.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#413 » by othawhitemeat » Mon May 9, 2022 7:26 pm

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If available, this is the guy I would like the most. He gives me prime Paul Millsap vibes.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#414 » by TheSuzerain » Mon May 9, 2022 8:05 pm

There is some very ugly tape of Liddell trying to dribble the ball.

Concern is that he's exclusively a small ball 5 and lacks the ball skills to do anything else in the NBA.
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Post#415 » by othawhitemeat » Mon May 9, 2022 9:20 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:There is some very ugly tape of Liddell trying to dribble the ball.

Concern is that he's exclusively a small ball 5 and lacks the ball skills to do anything else in the NBA.


I mean he is not going to be a point forward, but I think he can be a mold of a Grant Williams type contributor at minimum. I don't see Grant Williams dribbling a lot. I don't think his bounce is going to be his thing, but just me.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#416 » by TeamMan » Tue May 10, 2022 12:09 am

othawhitemeat wrote:
StunnerKO wrote:


If available, this is the guy I would like the most. He gives me prime Paul Millsap vibes.

Every year about this time I start taking a serious look at the players that might be available for the Bulls to draft.

Normally, my thinking is whether or not a player is "NBA-Ready".

And where ever Liddell is going to play, he'll have an immediate impact.

And he'll also be in the NBA a very long time.

IMO he's the kind of player that likes to have the ball in his hands when the game is on the line. And when the playoffs come, he'll up his game accordingly.

He's exactly what the Bulls need.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#417 » by The Box Office » Tue May 10, 2022 6:02 am

Liddell is whatever right now. Tari Eason has a lot more offense skills and a defensive menace currently to his foundation. I'd rather take a chance on Eason if he's available when we pick.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#418 » by DuckIII » Tue May 10, 2022 12:56 pm

I don’t see Liddell being the right fit. We need length and bounce and mobile defense.

I have to admit though, I’ve never seen it in Liddell. Not as a desirable NBA player anyway. Every time I watched him play at Ohio State I was always left with the “I don’t get it” feeling. But admittedly a big part of that feeling was me “not getting” how he was being so dang effective all the time.

So maybe he’s just one of those guys who looks like he should not be as good as he is, yet always just finds a way to be that good.

I’d probably pass on him. But he’s one of those guys I openly acknowledge I just may not really understand.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#419 » by Wingy » Tue May 10, 2022 1:47 pm

Bulls Fan 23 wrote:Tankathon has Tari Eason mocked to the Bulls at18. If that happens it's a homerun. I just don't see him falling to us.


They had him at 10 only a few weeks ago...seems pretty random they'd drop him 8 spots for no particular reason. Seems like a questionable mock at this point for something like that alone.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#420 » by Am2626 » Tue May 10, 2022 1:54 pm

Jvaughn wrote:
CROBulls wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:We have plenty of these guys though. We need elite frontcourt athletes and shooting

Like Patrick Williams? You wont find Giannis and KD guys at our range.


But Giannis was literally drafted in our range. Is it likely that we get a generational talent in that slot? No, but there are great players in every draft selected after the lottery.

2020- Bey, Quickley, Bane
2019- Poole, Bazley, THT
2018- RWiii, Simons, Heuerter
2017-OG, Collins, Allen
2016- Dejounte, Pascal, Levert
2015- Oubre, Tyus, Portis

Just have to be a good enough scout to recognize the talent. There are reasons why teams Toronto, Miami, and San Antonio continually find gems in late round situations.


Drafting Giannis or Jokic is like finding a needle in a haystack. It happens 2 times in a decade. I wouldn’t get my hopes up that the Bulls will find that type of player drafting at 18. They can still get a good player but very unlikely that this guy will be a generational player.

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