Western Conference | Round 2 | (1) Phoenix Suns vs. (4) Dallas Mavericks (2-2)

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Rumor mill on Twitter is that it involves CP3's mom.

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Yea what is on about ? Did someone try get in a fight with his family ?

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Rumor mill on Twitter is that it involves CP3's mom.

Oh dang .

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Rumor mill on Twitter is that it involves CP3's mom.

if some idiot Mavs fan put their hands on Paul's mom, charge them with assault and lifetime ban them. No call for that nonsense.

[TrueFan420]

Mavs were 3:1 against Grizzlies and Warriors in RS.

So we’re the nuggets and grizzles how’s that working out? RS means little. It’s health and timing that’s key in the post season.

You said, they are the worst. I don't understand on what you base your claim? RS obviously not and in playoffs Mavs are 2:2 against the best team in the league. Gut feeling?

Roster construct. Overall talent. They have Luka. Then Brunson who’s just really breaking out. Then a bunch of role players. Talent wise they’re the least talented team remaining and the least balanced. Suns aren’t the best team in the league. They might have the best record but that doesn’t mean the best team.

[pj0tr]

Anyone got details on this?

Rumor mill on Twitter is that it involves CP3's mom.

if some idiot Mavs fan put their hands on Paul's mom, charge them with assault and lifetime ban them. No call for that nonsense.

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Just watched the video, its when he fouls out, hes mouthing to a security guy "He put my hands on my mom".

Wonder if this was happening throughout the game.

[Bob8]

So we’re the nuggets and grizzles how’s that working out? RS means little. It’s health and timing that’s key in the post season.

You said, they are the worst. I don't understand on what you base your claim? RS obviously not and in playoffs Mavs are 2:2 against the best team in the league. Gut feeling?

Roster construct. Overall talent. They have Luka. Then Brunson who’s just really breaking out. Then a bunch of role players. Talent wise they’re the least talented team remaining and the least balanced. Suns aren’t the best team in the league. They might have the best record but that doesn’t mean the best team.

Look. A team, who is 2:2 in second round, is there for a reason. You can believe whatever you want for sure.

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Crowder no call.

That play didn't get talked about enough, because everyone focussed on Ayton. What Crowder did should be a flagrant, should it not? He litterally threw Luka violently on the ground. I'm not sure why no one reacted to that and acted like it didn't happen. It's weird.

Even Ayton does a side bump into Luka that negates the idea that this should be an offensive foul.

[Texas Chuck]

Rumor mill on Twitter is that it involves CP3's mom.

if some idiot Mavs fan put their hands on Paul's mom, charge them with assault and lifetime ban them. No call for that nonsense.

Just watched the video, its when he fouls out, hes mouthing to a security guy "He put my hands on my mom".

Wonder if this was happening throughout the game.

If this was happening throughout the game its hard to imagine Paul didn't tell security about it sooner and stop it. OTOH it would explain some of why his mind seemed not fully on the game so IDK?

But I assume video will come out. Nothing gets missed these days.

[Bob8]

Rumor mill on Twitter is that it involves CP3's mom.

if some idiot Mavs fan put their hands on Paul's mom, charge them with assault and lifetime ban them. No call for that nonsense.

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Just watched the video, its when he fouls out, hes mouthing to a security guy "He put my hands on my mom".

Wonder if this was happening throughout the game.

Some fans are totally obnoxious. I wonder, why I didn't hear any complaining about Suns' fan being out of the line with Luka?

[TrueFan420]

You said, they are the worst. I don't understand on what you base your claim? RS obviously not and in playoffs Mavs are 2:2 against the best team in the league. Gut feeling?

Roster construct. Overall talent. They have Luka. Then Brunson who’s just really breaking out. Then a bunch of role players. Talent wise they’re the least talented team remaining and the least balanced. Suns aren’t the best team in the league. They might have the best record but that doesn’t mean the best team.

Look. A team, who is 2:2 in second round, is there for a reason. You can believe whatever you want for sure.

They’re better than a lot of the NBA but there’s different levels. They’re a cut below. It’s like saying a player in the NBA is trash. They one of the best in the world but there’s tiers within that.

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[Bob8]

Roster construct. Overall talent. They have Luka. Then Brunson who’s just really breaking out. Then a bunch of role players. Talent wise they’re the least talented team remaining and the least balanced. Suns aren’t the best team in the league. They might have the best record but that doesn’t mean the best team.

Look. A team, who is 2:2 in second round, is there for a reason. You can believe whatever you want for sure.

They’re better than a lot of the NBA but there’s different levels. They’re a cut below. It’s like saying a player in the NBA is trash. They one of the best in the world but there’s tiers within that.

This low tier team is 2 games away of eliminating first seed.

[Texas Chuck]

[I wonder, why I didn't hear any complaining about Suns' fan being out of the line with Luka?

apples and oranges. Fans yapping at Luka who yaps at them is way different than if a fan really got physical with a player's mom. Why in the world would you expect anyone to react the same way to these very different situations?

And if a Suns fan had put his hands on Luka I promise you the vast majority of Suns posters here would have not defended that fan at all. But some verbal jabs? When Luka is talking all game? Yeah sorry that Suns fans aren't outraged by this.

[Mak]

Unfortunate if any family members made feel unsafe. Cant have this happen in the NBA. Phoenix Floppers will probably win game 5, I hope this goes 7.

[Bob8]

[I wonder, why I didn't hear any complaining about Suns' fan being out of the line with Luka?

apples and oranges. Fans yapping at Luka who yaps at them is way different than if a fan really got physical with a player's mom. Why in the world would you expect anyone to react the same way to these very different situations?

And if a Suns fan had put his hands on Luka I promise you the vast majority of Suns posters here would have not defended that fan at all. But some verbal jabs? When Luka is talking all game? Yeah sorry that Suns fans aren't outraged by this.

Luka said the best, fans can do whatever they want because they know players can't do anything. Like I understood, it wasn't just normal dirty talking. And it looks like we now have a fan, who went even little further. It's not the same thing of course, but it's the same problem. Fans being allowed too much.

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Crowder no call.

That play didn't get talked about enough, because everyone focussed on Ayton. What Crowder did should be a flagrant, should it not? He litterally threw Luka violently on the ground. I'm not sure why no one reacted to that and acted like it didn't happen. It's weird.

Even Ayton does a side bump into Luka that negates the idea that this should be an offensive foul.

I don’t see how Jaxson Hayes shove of Crowder was much worse than this. And Hayes got a flagrant 2 ejection for that,

But this is a no call?

It just further demonstrates that the entire flagrant/review process is stupid.

It should never result in an ejection unless it is completely undeniably terrible or a 2nd technical, like it used to be.

[SunsLyf3]

If the poster I responded to simply said the refs were bad I probably would have ignored it. Or maybe gave an and-1 because I agree they weren't on their A game today. I'd even agree Dallas seemed to benefit more from questionable calls than Phoenix.

But that's not all he said. He said Dallas has no chance without the refs and the refs aren't the reason the Suns lost both games in Dallas but I sure hope the Suns players get in their feelings like that poster and think so. I like how when the Mavs have gotten jobbed on bad calls, Kidd just says we only worry about what we can control. And it rubs off on everyone but Luka. Dallas just plays through.

I didn't mind game 3 cause Dallas has Luka which is enough to win a game or 2. I minded it when all of a sudden Suns don't get the "playoff basketball" benefit of the doubt and they get tacky. If they had ejected Luka I would understand but nothing that Dallas has experience comes close to what the refs did today. It was straight up embarrassing but that's just me. That isn't the reason why Dallas shot ridiculous from 3 but taking out CP3 didn't help either.

You know what was the only embarrassing thing in this series? Suns fans declaring win, before series even started. And now you're in total shock, blaming referees, Luka flopping...but not seeing how bad Suns really looked. Even game 2 was totally open, before CP3 saved you ass with incredible Q4.

Suns still winning. The refs are just making sure the series goes 6 at least. 2 of the worst suns performances in the CP3 playoffs era and Mavs struggle to close them out? Both games should have been 20 point blow outs given how bad the Suns played.

[Phystic]

Some Suns fans really need to dial it back. Saying the mavs stand no chance after they pretty thoroughly outplayed the suns for at least the last two games. And really for 3/4 qtrs of game 2.

This series is reminiscent of round 1. Suns not playing well at all.

Poor officiating or not, there's no arguing the Mavs outplayed the Suns in the last two games.

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Crowder no call.

That play didn't get talked about enough, because everyone focussed on Ayton. What Crowder did should be a flagrant, should it not? He litterally threw Luka violently on the ground. I'm not sure why no one reacted to that and acted like it didn't happen. It's weird.

Even Ayton does a side bump into Luka that negates the idea that this should be an offensive foul.

I don’t see how Jaxson Hayes shove of Crowder was much worse than this. And Hayes got a flagrant 2 ejection for that,

But this is a no call?

It just further demonstrates that the entire flagrant/review process is stupid.

It should never result in an ejection unless it is completely undeniably terrible or a 2nd technical, like it used to be.

Because they're vastly different plays?

I get people hate Jae, and seems Suns don't have many fans outside of AZ. But saying those two plays are similar is a joke.

Jae probably should get a foul there. Flagrant is ridiculous