Opinion: With another ring, Curry overtakes Pippen as the GOAT Finals 2nd option

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Re: Opinion: With another ring, Curry overtakes Pippen as the GOAT Finals 2nd option 

Post#41 » by michaelm » Mon May 9, 2022 1:02 am

bfchs123 wrote:This thread is such a passive aggressive, back-handed compliment.

Steph is 2nd banana lol? Clearly 1st banana throughout this run. If anything KD was the one who was along for the ride

I disagree. It is yet another straight out Curry bashing thread obviously (yawn).

KD was a great direct match up for LeBron which Curry at his size obviously can't do. KD is also a great, great player in general. Curry has more variance in his game and had one bad game in each winning final series, but otherwise played great. Not unreasonable that KD was MVP, but if the team was unfair as many claimed it was because they had both KD and Curry, who had a fairly equal role imo in demolishing the Cavs, with Curry more important for getting GSW to the finals as the MVP admits. KD actually left because it was Curry's team and not his.
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Re: Opinion: With another ring, Curry overtakes Pippen as the GOAT Finals 2nd option 

Post#42 » by Mk0 » Mon May 9, 2022 1:04 am

mihail_petkov wrote:Lue obviously doesn't know who the best player on the Warriors is too, right?


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Post#43 » by Cubbies2120 » Mon May 9, 2022 1:13 am

michaelm wrote:
bfchs123 wrote:This thread is such a passive aggressive, back-handed compliment.

Steph is 2nd banana lol? Clearly 1st banana throughout this run. If anything KD was the one who was along for the ride

I disagree. It is yet another straight out Curry bashing thread obviously (yawn).

KD was a great direct match up for LeBron which Curry at his size obviously can't do. KD is also a great, great player in general. Curry has more variance in his game and had one bad game in each winning final series, but otherwise played great. Not unreasonable that KD was MVP, but if the team was unfair as many claimed it was because they had both KD and Curry, who had a fairly equal role imo in demolishing the Cavs, with Curry more important for getting GSW to the finals as the MVP admits. KD actually left because it was Curry's team and not his.


I think the Warriors needed KD to get over the hump of LeBron + Kyrie + Love. We saw what happened the year prior with a historic chokejob in the Finals.

The year prior, the Warriors went 4-2 without Curry (and one of the wins with Curry they were tied at half when he went out, and won by 27).

If you take KD OR Curry off the '17 team, the Rockets win. If you take Curry off the '17 team in the FINALS, I still think the Warriors win. If you take KD off the '17 team in the Finals, I think we get a repeat of the '16 Finals.
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Re: Opinion: With another ring, Curry overtakes Pippen as the GOAT Finals 2nd option 

Post#44 » by Onus » Mon May 9, 2022 1:22 am

Cubbies2120 wrote:
michaelm wrote:
bfchs123 wrote:This thread is such a passive aggressive, back-handed compliment.

Steph is 2nd banana lol? Clearly 1st banana throughout this run. If anything KD was the one who was along for the ride

I disagree. It is yet another straight out Curry bashing thread obviously (yawn).

KD was a great direct match up for LeBron which Curry at his size obviously can't do. KD is also a great, great player in general. Curry has more variance in his game and had one bad game in each winning final series, but otherwise played great. Not unreasonable that KD was MVP, but if the team was unfair as many claimed it was because they had both KD and Curry, who had a fairly equal role imo in demolishing the Cavs, with Curry more important for getting GSW to the finals as the MVP admits. KD actually left because it was Curry's team and not his.


I think the Warriors needed KD to get over the hump of LeBron + Kyrie + Love. We saw what happened the year prior with a historic chokejob in the Finals.

The year prior, the Warriors went 4-2 without Curry (and one of the wins with Curry they were tied at half when he went out, and won by 27).

If you take KD OR Curry off the '17 team, the Rockets win. If you take Curry off the '17 team in the FINALS, I still think the Warriors win. If you take KD off the '17 team in the Finals, I think we get a repeat of the '16 Finals.

You realize when both teams were fully healthy warriors were winning 3-1 in 2016, but sure things would’ve been different in 2017 in some alternate universe.
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Re: Opinion: With another ring, Curry overtakes Pippen as the GOAT Finals 2nd option 

Post#45 » by Cubbies2120 » Mon May 9, 2022 1:24 am

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Cubbies2120 wrote:
michaelm wrote:I disagree. It is yet another straight out Curry bashing thread obviously (yawn).

KD was a great direct match up for LeBron which Curry at his size obviously can't do. KD is also a great, great player in general. Curry has more variance in his game and had one bad game in each winning final series, but otherwise played great. Not unreasonable that KD was MVP, but if the team was unfair as many claimed it was because they had both KD and Curry, who had a fairly equal role imo in demolishing the Cavs, with Curry more important for getting GSW to the finals as the MVP admits. KD actually left because it was Curry's team and not his.


I think the Warriors needed KD to get over the hump of LeBron + Kyrie + Love. We saw what happened the year prior with a historic chokejob in the Finals.

The year prior, the Warriors went 4-2 without Curry (and one of the wins with Curry they were tied at half when he went out, and won by 27).

If you take KD OR Curry off the '17 team, the Rockets win. If you take Curry off the '17 team in the FINALS, I still think the Warriors win. If you take KD off the '17 team in the Finals, I think we get a repeat of the '16 Finals.

You realize when both teams were fully healthy warriors were winning 3-1 in 2016, but sure things would’ve been different in 2017 in some alternate universe.


Hence the aforementioned "historic chokejob", blowing that 3-1 lead.
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Re: Opinion: With another ring, Curry overtakes Pippen as the GOAT Finals 2nd option 

Post#46 » by Onus » Mon May 9, 2022 1:27 am

Cubbies2120 wrote:
Onus wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:
I think the Warriors needed KD to get over the hump of LeBron + Kyrie + Love. We saw what happened the year prior with a historic chokejob in the Finals.

The year prior, the Warriors went 4-2 without Curry (and one of the wins with Curry they were tied at half when he went out, and won by 27).

If you take KD OR Curry off the '17 team, the Rockets win. If you take Curry off the '17 team in the FINALS, I still think the Warriors win. If you take KD off the '17 team in the Finals, I think we get a repeat of the '16 Finals.

You realize when both teams were fully healthy warriors were winning 3-1 in 2016, but sure things would’ve been different in 2017 in some alternate universe.


Hence the aforementioned "historic chokejob", blowing that 3-1 lead.

You mean the nba intervening and retroactively assigning a meaningless technical to suspend draymond and then iguodala and bogut getting hurt in that game. Seems more unlucky.
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Re: Opinion: With another ring, Curry overtakes Pippen as the GOAT Finals 2nd option 

Post#47 » by michaelm » Mon May 9, 2022 1:27 am

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Post#48 » by michaelm » Mon May 9, 2022 1:29 am

Cubbies2120 wrote:
Onus wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:
I think the Warriors needed KD to get over the hump of LeBron + Kyrie + Love. We saw what happened the year prior with a historic chokejob in the Finals.

The year prior, the Warriors went 4-2 without Curry (and one of the wins with Curry they were tied at half when he went out, and won by 27).

If you take KD OR Curry off the '17 team, the Rockets win. If you take Curry off the '17 team in the FINALS, I still think the Warriors win. If you take KD off the '17 team in the Finals, I think we get a repeat of the '16 Finals.

You realize when both teams were fully healthy warriors were winning 3-1 in 2016, but sure things would’ve been different in 2017 in some alternate universe.


Hence the aforementioned "historic chokejob", blowing that 3-1 lead.

Sure, we were well aware from your OP that this is a Curry/GSW bashing thread.
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Post#49 » by Cubbies2120 » Mon May 9, 2022 1:36 am

Onus wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:
Onus wrote:You realize when both teams were fully healthy warriors were winning 3-1 in 2016, but sure things would’ve been different in 2017 in some alternate universe.


Hence the aforementioned "historic chokejob", blowing that 3-1 lead.

You mean the nba intervening and retroactively assigning a meaningless technical to suspend draymond and then iguodala and bogut getting hurt in that game. Seems more unlucky.


Was it just that one technical or was it a history of behavior during that season that caused him to rack up some T's that ended up costing them one game in the Finals?

Seems like if Green being out for one game was the difference of winning/losing the series, he would have been MVP no? Or Iggy again if he stayed healthy?
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Post#50 » by Onus » Mon May 9, 2022 1:48 am

Cubbies2120 wrote:
Onus wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:
Hence the aforementioned "historic chokejob", blowing that 3-1 lead.

You mean the nba intervening and retroactively assigning a meaningless technical to suspend draymond and then iguodala and bogut getting hurt in that game. Seems more unlucky.


Was it just that one technical or was it a history of behavior during that season that caused him to rack up some T's that ended up costing them one game in the Finals?

Seems like if Green being out for one game was the difference of winning/losing the series, he would have been MVP no? Or Iggy again if he stayed healthy?

Green probably would’ve won fmvp if we win in 2016.
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Re: Opinion: With another ring, Curry overtakes Pippen as the GOAT Finals 2nd option 

Post#51 » by knicksNOTslick » Mon May 9, 2022 1:58 am

Finals MVP if it holds any weight shouldn't be judged by media members, some of whom aren't that knowledgeable in basketball. Since it does, it's like an All Star starter selection. Fan votes.

Steph Curry is the most important player on the Warriors during their dynasty. Not Iggy and certainly not KD.
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Post#52 » by Lockdown504090 » Mon May 9, 2022 2:01 am

Cubbies2120 wrote:There is no questioning Curry's offensive prowess in the regular season. His '16 season is one of the greatest offensive seasons of all time, if not the greatest.

If he wins his 4th ring, especially with a Finals MVP to boot, he'll surpass Pippen as the GOAT 2nd banana (or 'bus passenger' though I'd argue he's more the front seat passenger making sure the GPS is going, but I digress).

4 rings, 1 FMVP > 6 rings, 0 FMVP

***Note: This is for Finals performances ONLY. I am in no way suggesting that Pippen holds a candle to Curry as an overall player***

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Post#53 » by Cubbies2120 » Mon May 9, 2022 2:03 am

Lockdown504090 wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:There is no questioning Curry's offensive prowess in the regular season. His '16 season is one of the greatest offensive seasons of all time, if not the greatest.

If he wins his 4th ring, especially with a Finals MVP to boot, he'll surpass Pippen as the GOAT 2nd banana (or 'bus passenger' though I'd argue he's more the front seat passenger making sure the GPS is going, but I digress).

4 rings, 1 FMVP > 6 rings, 0 FMVP

***Note: This is for Finals performances ONLY. I am in no way suggesting that Pippen holds a candle to Curry as an overall player***

what motivated you to make this thread?


To recognize Curry's ascension above Pippen as a Finals performer. I think even though he has less rings, getting that Finals MVP this year will solidify him as a better Finals 2nd fiddle.
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Post#54 » by rtiff68 » Mon May 9, 2022 2:04 am

Lockdown504090 wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:There is no questioning Curry's offensive prowess in the regular season. His '16 season is one of the greatest offensive seasons of all time, if not the greatest.

If he wins his 4th ring, especially with a Finals MVP to boot, he'll surpass Pippen as the GOAT 2nd banana (or 'bus passenger' though I'd argue he's more the front seat passenger making sure the GPS is going, but I digress).

4 rings, 1 FMVP > 6 rings, 0 FMVP

***Note: This is for Finals performances ONLY. I am in no way suggesting that Pippen holds a candle to Curry as an overall player***

what motivated you to make this thread?


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Post#55 » by California Gold » Mon May 9, 2022 2:04 am

BmanInBigD wrote:I just know Curry's one of the best front-runners in history. Maybe the best.


You can't really be labeled a front-runner when you've earned your way to everything you've achieved. To each their own though, very little if any people would agree with that opinion that he is.
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Post#56 » by nfmos » Mon May 9, 2022 2:11 am

Lockdown504090 wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:There is no questioning Curry's offensive prowess in the regular season. His '16 season is one of the greatest offensive seasons of all time, if not the greatest.

If he wins his 4th ring, especially with a Finals MVP to boot, he'll surpass Pippen as the GOAT 2nd banana (or 'bus passenger' though I'd argue he's more the front seat passenger making sure the GPS is going, but I digress).

4 rings, 1 FMVP > 6 rings, 0 FMVP

***Note: This is for Finals performances ONLY. I am in no way suggesting that Pippen holds a candle to Curry as an overall player***

what motivated you to make this thread?


Like the boards Skip Bayless, lets see how dumb a take i can say (that i know isnt true) just to get attention.
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Post#57 » by michaelm » Mon May 9, 2022 2:15 am

Cubbies2120 wrote:
Lockdown504090 wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:There is no questioning Curry's offensive prowess in the regular season. His '16 season is one of the greatest offensive seasons of all time, if not the greatest.

If he wins his 4th ring, especially with a Finals MVP to boot, he'll surpass Pippen as the GOAT 2nd banana (or 'bus passenger' though I'd argue he's more the front seat passenger making sure the GPS is going, but I digress).

4 rings, 1 FMVP > 6 rings, 0 FMVP

***Note: This is for Finals performances ONLY. I am in no way suggesting that Pippen holds a candle to Curry as an overall player***

what motivated you to make this thread?


To recognize Curry's ascension above Pippen as a Finals performer. I think even though he has less rings, getting that Finals MVP this year will solidify him as a better Finals 2nd fiddle.

You mean like Duncan and the Admiral, or perhaps Kawhi and Duncan. Every one knows Duncan was the wellspring of those 5 title wins. Kawhi who was also a great player getting FMVP in the last title win doesn't diminish Duncan who still led the team. KD of whom I am a big fan doesn't seem to have found it as easy to dominate playing next to Harden or Irving either as he did when next to Curry.
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Post#58 » by Cubbies2120 » Mon May 9, 2022 2:15 am

nfmos wrote:
Lockdown504090 wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:There is no questioning Curry's offensive prowess in the regular season. His '16 season is one of the greatest offensive seasons of all time, if not the greatest.

If he wins his 4th ring, especially with a Finals MVP to boot, he'll surpass Pippen as the GOAT 2nd banana (or 'bus passenger' though I'd argue he's more the front seat passenger making sure the GPS is going, but I digress).

4 rings, 1 FMVP > 6 rings, 0 FMVP

***Note: This is for Finals performances ONLY. I am in no way suggesting that Pippen holds a candle to Curry as an overall player***

what motivated you to make this thread?


Like the boards Skip Bayless, lets see how dumb a take i can say (that i know isnt true) just to get attention.


Can always count on people getting triggered when people state their opinions on realgm...

Look, I don't vote on FMVP fam, I just comment on it. I actually think (and hope) Curry will win it this year. Would be a damn shame to see him retire without one...
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Post#59 » by PhilBlackson » Mon May 9, 2022 2:16 am

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Post#60 » by Cubbies2120 » Mon May 9, 2022 2:17 am

michaelm wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:
Lockdown504090 wrote:what motivated you to make this thread?


To recognize Curry's ascension above Pippen as a Finals performer. I think even though he has less rings, getting that Finals MVP this year will solidify him as a better Finals 2nd fiddle.

You mean like Duncan and the Admiral, or perhaps Kawhi and Duncan. Every one knows Duncan was the wellspring of those 5 title wins. Kawhi who was also a great player getting FMVP in the last title win doesn't diminish Duncan who still led the team. KD of whom I am a big fan doesn't seem to have found it as easy to dominate playing next to Harden or Irving either as he did when next to Curry.


We don't win that title without Kawhi. He was the key to the series and the final 3 games he took over.

Duncan is my favorite player, and I can admit it.
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