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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#281 » by Mamba4Goat » Mon May 9, 2022 4:34 am

I’m beginning to think Eason won’t be around when the Wolves pick but, and I may be in the minority here, I’d happily offer one of Naz/Nowell/Bolmaro to move up for him (not sure if Nowell/Bolmaro have that value). He’s probably my favorite fit for Minnesota.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#282 » by minimus » Mon May 9, 2022 7:40 am

Mamba4Goat wrote:I’m beginning to think Eason won’t be around when the Wolves pick but, and I may be in the minority here, I’d happily offer one of Naz/Nowell/Bolmaro to move up for him (not sure if Nowell/Bolmaro have that value). He’s probably my favorite fit for Minnesota.


Yeah, he is 21 yo, so I would be happy if he falls down to 19 pick. Or trade up by using Nowell is also a good variant.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#283 » by shangrila » Mon May 9, 2022 11:18 am

Mamba4Goat wrote:I’m beginning to think Eason won’t be around when the Wolves pick but, and I may be in the minority here, I’d happily offer one of Naz/Nowell/Bolmaro to move up for him (not sure if Nowell/Bolmaro have that value). He’s probably my favorite fit for Minnesota.

Eason, and Sochan too, are the Paul George's of this draft. The guy that somehow flies under the radar despite just about everyone singing his praises during the season only to inevitably shoot up boards once everyone starts paying attention after the season is over.

It sucks but there's still some interesting guys around where we're picking. And the more guys that rise, the more that might fall.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#284 » by jpatrick » Mon May 9, 2022 6:42 pm

shangrila wrote:
Mamba4Goat wrote:I’m beginning to think Eason won’t be around when the Wolves pick but, and I may be in the minority here, I’d happily offer one of Naz/Nowell/Bolmaro to move up for him (not sure if Nowell/Bolmaro have that value). He’s probably my favorite fit for Minnesota.

Eason, and Sochan too, are the Paul George's of this draft. The guy that somehow flies under the radar despite just about everyone singing his praises during the season only to inevitably shoot up boards once everyone starts paying attention after the season is over.

It sucks but there's still some interesting guys around where we're picking. And the more guys that rise, the more that might fall.


Maybe he’ll be gone. But he’s pretty unskilled and older. I’ve only watched him a couple of times, so not a strong opinion of him. I have a group of draft guys I pay attention to. One is the Athletics Sam Vecenie (and his sidekick). Both had him as a late teens guy that could slip.

My guy is Dyson Daniels. I have no idea where he goes. But if things click, I could see him as a Jrue Holiday type PG. Best defensive guard in this class. 6’6” or so. Not creative to be a primary initiator but a great ball moving passer. Great rebounding guard. Shot not great but improved significantly throughout the G-League season, which he played at 18. That improvement is what you look for. This is a guy that went from Aussie to G-League, it just took him time to adjust. He was consistently putting up near triple doubles by seasons end.

I love his fit next to Ant if the shot comes along. He’s kinda what we hoped Bolmaro would become.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#285 » by KGdaBom » Mon May 9, 2022 7:44 pm

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Mamba4Goat wrote:I’m beginning to think Eason won’t be around when the Wolves pick but, and I may be in the minority here, I’d happily offer one of Naz/Nowell/Bolmaro to move up for him (not sure if Nowell/Bolmaro have that value). He’s probably my favorite fit for Minnesota.


Yeah, he is 21 yo, so I would be happy if he falls down to 19 pick. Or trade up by using Nowell is also a good variant.

OK I need to decide on who I'm backing for our draft pick and It's got to be Eason.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#286 » by Mattya » Mon May 9, 2022 7:49 pm

Eason looks good, but his shot looks iffy and look incredible dependent in going right. I think that might limit his upside.

Sochan has a lot of work to do on his jumper but his play reminds me of Aaron Gordon.

Both are obvious picks at 19 tho.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#287 » by Klomp » Mon May 9, 2022 8:48 pm

jpatrick wrote:I love his fit next to Ant if the shot comes along. He’s kinda what we hoped Bolmaro would become.

It's funny people are already giving up on him...seems like we'll likely quickly give up on whoever this draft pick will be too if they don't immediately contribute.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#288 » by Klomp » Mon May 9, 2022 9:17 pm

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life_saver wrote:Question for draft experts...is there any realistic chance of a PG prospect (someone who isn't a complete non-shooter) falling to Wolves at #19?

Jaden Hardy had his struggles but he should pan out as a shooter. He’s got a 50/50 chance at being at 19.

Kennedy Chandler (38% from 3) should be around still at 19 too.

I wonder if Hardy has a bit of Ant in him. People will dog him for shot selection, poor shooting, overconfidence/cockiness, poor awareness, etc but I think he's got that it factor that could help him develop into a star.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#289 » by Mamba4Goat » Mon May 9, 2022 9:27 pm

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life_saver wrote:Question for draft experts...is there any realistic chance of a PG prospect (someone who isn't a complete non-shooter) falling to Wolves at #19?

Jaden Hardy had his struggles but he should pan out as a shooter. He’s got a 50/50 chance at being at 19.

Kennedy Chandler (38% from 3) should be around still at 19 too.

I wonder if Hardy has a bit of Ant in him. People will dog him for shot selection, poor shooting, overconfidence/cockiness, poor awareness, etc but I think he's got that it factor that could help him develop into a star.


I see him more as a D’Angelo Russell. He has some interesting tools and even has a similar game to D’Lo but his best path to success will either be leaning all the way in as an off ball/supplemental playmaker or as the lead playmaker/distributor. If Hardy is looking for his shot you’re going to be hurting more often than not just like you’d be with D’Lo.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#290 » by shangrila » Mon May 9, 2022 9:56 pm

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shangrila wrote:
Mamba4Goat wrote:I’m beginning to think Eason won’t be around when the Wolves pick but, and I may be in the minority here, I’d happily offer one of Naz/Nowell/Bolmaro to move up for him (not sure if Nowell/Bolmaro have that value). He’s probably my favorite fit for Minnesota.

Eason, and Sochan too, are the Paul George's of this draft. The guy that somehow flies under the radar despite just about everyone singing his praises during the season only to inevitably shoot up boards once everyone starts paying attention after the season is over.

It sucks but there's still some interesting guys around where we're picking. And the more guys that rise, the more that might fall.


Maybe he’ll be gone. But he’s pretty unskilled and older. I’ve only watched him a couple of times, so not a strong opinion of him. I have a group of draft guys I pay attention to. One is the Athletics Sam Vecenie (and his sidekick). Both had him as a late teens guy that could slip.

My guy is Dyson Daniels. I have no idea where he goes. But if things click, I could see him as a Jrue Holiday type PG. Best defensive guard in this class. 6’6” or so. Not creative to be a primary initiator but a great ball moving passer. Great rebounding guard. Shot not great but improved significantly throughout the G-League season, which he played at 18. That improvement is what you look for. This is a guy that went from Aussie to G-League, it just took him time to adjust. He was consistently putting up near triple doubles by seasons end.

I love his fit next to Ant if the shot comes along. He’s kinda what we hoped Bolmaro would become.

100% agree on Daniels (and not just because he's a fellow Aussie). I saw a rumour that had him at 6-8 now which is...yeah. I'd put his comp more at Lonzo Ball than Jrue Holiday personally, but that might be splitting hairs since they're both valuable defensive guards with secondary playmaking abilities. Although if he has grown to 6-8 that might change his comps a bit.

Unfortunately I have him firmly in the lottery, not just because of his talent but because this is such a weak PG class that someone has to be the first guard off the board and I'd make it Daniels. For example, I don't see him getting past Washington.

I haven't given up on Bolmaro yet either, but I agree he's not worth planning around anymore.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#291 » by shangrila » Mon May 9, 2022 9:58 pm

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Mamba4Goat wrote:I’m beginning to think Eason won’t be around when the Wolves pick but, and I may be in the minority here, I’d happily offer one of Naz/Nowell/Bolmaro to move up for him (not sure if Nowell/Bolmaro have that value). He’s probably my favorite fit for Minnesota.


Yeah, he is 21 yo, so I would be happy if he falls down to 19 pick. Or trade up by using Nowell is also a good variant.

OK I need to decide on who I'm backing for our draft pick and It's got to be Eason.
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He won't be available. Short of an injury or something else dramatic he's going to be a lottery pick.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#292 » by shangrila » Mon May 9, 2022 10:21 pm

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Mamba4Goat wrote:Jaden Hardy had his struggles but he should pan out as a shooter. He’s got a 50/50 chance at being at 19.

Kennedy Chandler (38% from 3) should be around still at 19 too.

I wonder if Hardy has a bit of Ant in him. People will dog him for shot selection, poor shooting, overconfidence/cockiness, poor awareness, etc but I think he's got that it factor that could help him develop into a star.


I see him more as a D’Angelo Russell. He has some interesting tools and even has a similar game to D’Lo but his best path to success will either be leaning all the way in as an off ball/supplemental playmaker or as the lead playmaker/distributor. If Hardy is looking for his shot you’re going to be hurting more often than not just like you’d be with D’Lo.

Nah, Russell was always a scoring PG whereas Hardy is clearly a combo guard at best.

It's hard to come up with a comp for him really since his kind of archetype (high usage, average efficiency shooter) is either boom or bust with very little in between.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#293 » by Klomp » Tue May 10, 2022 12:38 am

shangrila wrote:It's hard to come up with a comp for him really since his kind of archetype (high usage, average efficiency shooter) is either boom or bust with very little in between.

At 19, I'm willing to take a chance on that.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#294 » by shangrila » Tue May 10, 2022 3:20 am

Klomp wrote:
shangrila wrote:It's hard to come up with a comp for him really since his kind of archetype (high usage, average efficiency shooter) is either boom or bust with very little in between.

At 19, I'm willing to take a chance on that.

So am I, if the chance of him blowing up is relatively good. In Hardy's case, I don't think it is.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#295 » by theGreatRC » Tue May 10, 2022 4:49 am

Loved Hardy when he was in high school, super smooth player, Brad Beal type.

He's a SG but I think we can run a 5 man lineup with Ant as the PG. Hardy is the type of guy you'd absolutely want at 19. He was top 5 in his class and I think he's underrated at this point
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#296 » by TwolvesFanRome » Tue May 10, 2022 9:25 am

I have seen some videos about Jalen Williams...maybe the real sleeper of this draft?
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#297 » by mplsfonz23 » Tue May 10, 2022 4:51 pm

TwolvesFanRome wrote:I have seen some videos about Jalen Williams...maybe the real sleeper of this draft?

Well why not.
We already have a Jaylen, Jaden, Jordan, Josh, Jake and a Jarred.
If we don't add him, maybe we can get Jaden Hardy or John Butler. (Great outside shooter, but pretty thin.
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Post#298 » by Neeva » Tue May 10, 2022 8:16 pm

I am down with adding Jaden Hardy, Jaylin Williams and Jalen Williams, yes there are two .
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#299 » by Klomp » Tue May 10, 2022 8:50 pm

Just thinking with our deep rotation of guys under contract, we can probably afford to take a chance on someone with loads of potential who may not be ready right away. I give you...

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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#300 » by jpatrick » Tue May 10, 2022 10:46 pm

Klomp wrote:Just thinking with our deep rotation of guys under contract, we can probably afford to take a chance on someone with loads of potential who may not be ready right away. I give you...



If you want in on the guy that could be Paul George or that could outright bust, it’s this guy. Improved a ton from start to finish last season. Aussie league is tough on teenagers. Body wise reminds me of Jaden McDaniels a lot. Better shot creator. Probably not nearly the toughness/defensive ability. I’d be in for a giant swing like this. Long combo forwards are always a good thing.

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