Al Horford Thread

[Hal14]

Everyone forgot about Theis

Perfect role for him is big man coming off the bench, giving you a solid 20-24 mins a game...spot starter in case of injury to a starter.

I love theis and what he brings. all teams need a tough, rugged, physical dude who doesn't back down from anyone, can grab boards, block shots, set screens, get some points inside off dump offs, lobs or offensive boards and hit the occasional 3.

Backup big man role is perfect for him.

He's just not a starter on a good team, ideally - his size, foot speed, lateral quickness and shooting are all just lacking a bit..

[Kalela]

Mo Bamba?

I wouldn't mind Bamba. He is no Horford but he can stretch the floor, has size and is a decent shot blocker. Larry Nance is probably the closest thing you can get to an Al Horford. Is he a free agent this summer and is it possible to sign him?

[ConstableGeneva]

Horford, who turns 36 in June 3, is the 4th oldest active player still currently alive in the playoffs. Paul Millsap (played six minutes vs MIA), PJ Tucker, and Chris Paul are all older by at least a full year. Haslem, Iguodala, Lowry, and George Hill are all older than Horford and are on playoff teams but are sidelined for their teams' current series for various reasons.

[Theocy]

Horford, who turns 36 in June 3, is the 4th oldest active player still currently alive in the playoffs. Paul Millsap (played six minutes vs MIA), PJ Tucker, and Chris Paul are all older by at least a full year. Haslem, Iguodala, Lowry, and George Hill are all older than Horford and are on playoff teams but are sidelined for their teams' current series for various reasons.

There arent many players 35+ who have played the minutes and have had the contribution Al had for us this year. And you csn extend that beyond ps teams (ie Lebron).

Paul is the ultimate grandad who smacks kids around at his age. But Al has been amazing. I’m hoping his legs hold up.

[ConstableGeneva]

Horford, who turns 36 in June 3, is the 4th oldest active player still currently alive in the playoffs. Paul Millsap (played six minutes vs MIA), PJ Tucker, and Chris Paul are all older by at least a full year. Haslem, Iguodala, Lowry, and George Hill are all older than Horford and are on playoff teams but are sidelined for their teams' current series for various reasons.

There arent many players 35+ who have played the minutes and have had the contribution Al had for us this year. And you csn extend that beyond ps teams (ie Lebron).

Paul is the ultimate grandad who smacks kids around at his age. But Al has been amazing. I’m hoping his legs hold up.

Agreed. There's a bunch of guys on the 35+ yo "active" list, most of whom are current/ex-Nets and Lakers players, that are just washed or mostly get exploited on defense every time they step on the floor. Lucky to have gotten Al back for this playoff run.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Horford, who turns 36 in June 3, is the 4th oldest active player still currently alive in the playoffs. Paul Millsap (played six minutes vs MIA), PJ Tucker, and Chris Paul are all older by at least a full year. Haslem, Iguodala, Lowry, and George Hill are all older than Horford and are on playoff teams but are sidelined for their teams' current series for various reasons.

If we expand to the entire NBA, there's still not many players that have been around as long as Horford (bear in mind that he stayed a while in college so he's older than most guys from the 2007 and even 2006 draft).
Durant (no.2 pick), Horford (no.3), Conley (no.4), Jeff Green (no. 5) and Thad Young (no.12) are the only remaining active players from the 2007 draft class. So the GMs mostly got it right during that draft.
From the 2006 draft, Aldridge (no.2), Gay (no.8), Rondo (no.21), Lowry (no.24), Tucker (no.35), Millsap (no.47) are left.
From the 2005 draft, Chris Paul (no.4) and Lou Williams (no.45) are still playing.
From the 2004 draft, Howard (no.1), Iguodala (no.9) and Ariza (no.45) are still around. Ariza was cut by the Lakers late this year so he might already be done in the NBA.
From the 2003 draft, only LeBron (no.1) and Melo (no.3) are left.
Nobody is left from the previous drafts.

* I'm not including guys that were called up for a couple games during the height of the pandemic like Joe Johnson and CJ Miles.
In bold are the guys that are still starters.

[Hal14]

Horford, who turns 36 in June 3, is the 4th oldest active player still currently alive in the playoffs. Paul Millsap (played six minutes vs MIA), PJ Tucker, and Chris Paul are all older by at least a full year. Haslem, Iguodala, Lowry, and George Hill are all older than Horford and are on playoff teams but are sidelined for their teams' current series for various reasons.

There arent many players 35+ who have played the minutes and have had the contribution Al had for us this year. And you csn extend that beyond ps teams (ie Lebron).

Paul is the ultimate grandad who smacks kids around at his age. But Al has been amazing. I’m hoping his legs hold up.

Agreed. There's a bunch of guys on the 35+ yo "active" list, most of whom are current/ex-Nets and Lakers players, that are just washed or mostly get exploited on defense every time they step on the floor. Lucky to have gotten Al back for this playoff run.

Well yeah. Not too many guys at that age still producing. There's al, CP3, PJ Tucker, Lowry and the rest of the older guys are pretty washed up at this point.

I think you keep him 1 more year in 2022-2023, let Al play out the last year of his contract and then ride off into the sunset and retire after next season.

However, a couple of things to keep in mind:
-We may want to use him coming off the bench next season as like a 6th or 7th man, to limit his mins and keep him fresh/healthy all year. Grant would be the logical guy to start in that scenario

-We could try restructuring al's contract or buy him out and immediately sign him to new deal (like we did with jabari parker). Al is due to make $26.5 mil next year. That's obviously too much for a 36 yr old player who isn't named lebron or CP3...especially if we're gonna bring him off the bench next season..

[Larry_Russell]

Does this work???


Josh Richardson (or another contract) into the TPE

Then Richardson, White and Theis to Washington for Beal (backbone of the deal)

Smart/Pritchard
Beal/Nesmith/Stauskis
Brown/Hauser
Tatum/GrantW
Timelord/Horford

[165bows]

Does this work???


Josh Richardson (or another contract) into the TPE

Then Richardson, White and Theis to Washington for Beal (backbone of the deal)

Smart/Pritchard
Beal/Nesmith/Stauskis
Brown/Hauser
Tatum/GrantW
Timelord/Horford

No but I’m pretty sure White/Theis/Nesmith/Fitts/Newman works.

And then hypothetically it could be structured so someone additionally could come into the TPE(s) by allowing third teams to take on those salaries (thereby sending players into the TPE). But then they’d be coming against whatever their total potential spending limits are.

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

no hate on Horford for choosing what he thinks is best for his family long term. He probably knows Danny will trade him eventually to perhaps a team he has doesn't even want to play for so he just wants to be a step ahead and control his destiny and career.

Having said that, I so want the Cs to beat the Nets and the sixers in the playoffs to prove we don't need him and Kyrie to win the East.

We can beat the Nets, IMO. Sixers? Not with our current set of bigs (or lack thereof).

Embiid's health could be key. Al can't do it all.

I disagree.

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

Horford's the kind of guy, if you hate on him it really just says bad things about you.

...or he makes you pay!

[KIRAG]

We can beat the Nets, IMO. Sixers? Not with our current set of bigs (or lack thereof).

Embiid's health could be key. Al can't do it all.

I disagree.

Nice bump. Celtics and Al are meant for each other. Neither are great without the other (not including his hay days with the Hawks of course)

[TheMartian]

[Darthlukey]

Celts didn't draft him.

He played just a couple of seasons in Boston.

So I don't understand this betrayal business or how dare he goes to a rival.

We don't know how far apart Ainge's offer was from what he accepted from Philly.

Allegedly it was kyrie who he thought was coming back

[Darthlukey]

Celts didn't draft him.

He played just a couple of seasons in Boston.

So I don't understand this betrayal business or how dare he goes to a rival.

We don't know how far apart Ainge's offer was from what he accepted from Philly.

I will never begrudge a player taking more money. Would disgust me if he stayed in Boston on a smaller deal actually.

If he picked up his option, Celtics wouldn't have Kemba. I dunno, I think I like the current trajectory of the roster better now.

We could have kept horf and got kemba via sign and trade. Al wanted out cos he thought kyrie was staying

[ConstableGeneva]

[ConstableGeneva]

Read on Twitter

[sam_I_am]

The signature moment of a great career!

His reaction was incredible. This Al to start with. It was also on the road. This guy is so dialed in and on such a roll it didn’t matter that they were in Milwaukee and the fans weren’t into it. Pretty awesome. I just hope we get to see another moment like that in Boston so the windows on the Garden crack from the noise.

[Yinwest]

Please Big Al, bring us to the promised land.

[165bows]

2 year/$20M extension lol.