Who is the best player with zero accolades?
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Who is the best player with zero accolades?
Here's something that I feel might have never been discussed on here - who is the best player (whether it be peak, career, whatever; I'm up for all mentions) that has absolutely zero even remotely worthy accolades? I'm not just talking MVPs and titles - I'm talking things like leading the league in steals, all-rookie teams, you name it.
So, for example, here is Tim Duncan:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html
Near his jersey, we'll see a list of accolades in brown, including championships, MVPs, defensive teams, and so forth.
Who is the best player you can think of with zero accolades on their Basketball-Reference tab?
One name coming to mind is George Hill - absolutely no accolade based imprint to remember him by, but I've always thought of him to be a solid player (especially in his best seasons) and he has always performed well outside of the box score. Mike Dunleavy, Bo Outlaw... these guys were pretty solid, but they're borderline untraceable. I know absolutely nothing about Vern Fleming outside of his Basketball-Reference page, but he looked a decent player for quite a while.
So, who else hovers around the peak of inconspicuousness?
So, for example, here is Tim Duncan:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html
Near his jersey, we'll see a list of accolades in brown, including championships, MVPs, defensive teams, and so forth.
Who is the best player you can think of with zero accolades on their Basketball-Reference tab?
One name coming to mind is George Hill - absolutely no accolade based imprint to remember him by, but I've always thought of him to be a solid player (especially in his best seasons) and he has always performed well outside of the box score. Mike Dunleavy, Bo Outlaw... these guys were pretty solid, but they're borderline untraceable. I know absolutely nothing about Vern Fleming outside of his Basketball-Reference page, but he looked a decent player for quite a while.
So, who else hovers around the peak of inconspicuousness?
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This is harder than I thought. Every time I think I have a name, I see they made an all rookie team or won a championship.
Nik Batum and his former teammate Wes Matthews are a couple names though.
Nik Batum and his former teammate Wes Matthews are a couple names though.
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Chris Duhon. Solid point guard.
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Technically, George Hill did lead the league in three-point percentage in '20. I wanted to say JJ Redick but he also led the NBA in that category (in '16). I would say Orlando Woolridge or Tobias Harris. Otto Porter and Nikola Peković were really solid in their primes but the totality of their careers is probably not there. On the other hand, Danny Schayes played for 18 seasons worth of 1200+ games, he has to be up there when it comes to longevity.
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Jj Redick or Tobias Harris....... The irony
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Tom Boerwinkle
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Nick Anderson
Jerome Kersey
Corey Maggette
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Narigo wrote:Tom Boerwinkle
Jerome Kersey
Corey Maggette
Nick Anderson
Wow, I wanted to post Tom's name, that's very good mention!
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Andre Miller for me. He had a LONG career to despite being a mediocre shooter
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José Calderón?
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Fun thread, thanks!
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FuShengTHEGreat wrote:Andre Miller for me. He had a LONG career to despite being a mediocre shooter
Led league in assists. Was literally the first name I thought of though.
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You've got a couple really good young guys in the league that haven't earned any accolades yet like Robert Williams, Jalen Brunson, Tyrese Maxey and Jordan Poole to name a few.
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FuShengTHEGreat wrote:Andre Miller for me. He had a LONG career to despite being a mediocre shooter
Miller has 2 accolades on his page. Rookie team and apg leader.
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Andre Miller was close but has a category lead (assists) and rookie team.
Sam Perkins is closer but all rookie.
Darrell Armstrong has two secondary, indirectly about play awards (MIP, 6th man)
Nene all rookie.
Bob Houbregs makes the Hall - I think from college, but has an outlier NBA productive peak year.
Donyell Marshall (somewhat surprisingly - I recalled a poor start to his career, and even for a rookie ... I think that's right) has all rookie
Mickey Johnson?
Ray Williams?
Maggette?
Kevin Martin?
Jose Calderon?
Tom Boerwinkle?
Jeff Foster??
Some recent-ish box productive peaks include
Ersan Ilyasova (others I was thinking of had an accolade R Anderson (MIP), Faried (all rookie))
going further Dampier, Geiger had outlier box peaks.
Sam Perkins is closer but all rookie.
Darrell Armstrong has two secondary, indirectly about play awards (MIP, 6th man)
Nene all rookie.
Bob Houbregs makes the Hall - I think from college, but has an outlier NBA productive peak year.
Donyell Marshall (somewhat surprisingly - I recalled a poor start to his career, and even for a rookie ... I think that's right) has all rookie
Mickey Johnson?
Ray Williams?
Maggette?
Kevin Martin?
Jose Calderon?
Tom Boerwinkle?
Jeff Foster??
Some recent-ish box productive peaks include
Ersan Ilyasova (others I was thinking of had an accolade R Anderson (MIP), Faried (all rookie))
going further Dampier, Geiger had outlier box peaks.
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I'll give a shout out to Bonzi Wells here.
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Does Wes Matthews have any accolades?
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This is pretty difficult. Thought I hit gold with a bunch of dudes who actually made All-Rookie. Again thought I hit gold with Derek Harper who didn't make All-Rookie but was on two All-D teams. The Davis Bros from Indiana would be good choices except both somehow made an All-Star team. Rony Seikaly was a MIP
Maybe Kevin Martin or Wayman Tisdale?
EDIT: Jerami Grant
Maybe Kevin Martin or Wayman Tisdale?
EDIT: Jerami Grant
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Texas Chuck wrote:This is harder than I thought. Every time I think I have a name, I see they made an all rookie team or won a championship.
Yeah first I guy I looked up was Nene, and he had All-Rookie.
I kinda think rookie accolades shouldn't count because in any given year there are tons of players more valuable than the vast majority of All-Rookie guys.
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