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AtheJ415 wrote:DroseReturnChi wrote:isnt he mocking his master?
Booker is 9-3 against Luka in his career. Ayton and Bridges too.
Booker just finished ahead in the MVP, is drastically more efficient, and actually can defend a paper bag.
AtheJ415 wrote:DroseReturnChi wrote:isnt he mocking his master?
Booker is 9-3 against Luka in his career. Ayton and Bridges too.
Booker just finished ahead in the MVP, is drastically more efficient, and actually can defend a paper bag.
Swish1906 wrote:og15 wrote:Swish1906 wrote:
To not look stupid
Accomplishments does not make one look any more or less stupid making fun of another player. Just make no sense, "better get some accomplishments before you can make jokes in a competitive game, unless you look stupid", what?
Running your mouth while riding a lucked out trade after being the laughing stock of the league over years (see Game of Zones etc)... Yeah makes you look stupid.
BmanInBigD wrote:CobraCommander wrote:Ugalde wrote:I'm already starting to feel like Booker is the better player and I love Luka.
If book gets multiple chips and Luka doesn’t - Booker will be the better player… period.
You can like who you like - but Booker the best suns player - if they get multiple rings while Booker is the best player on the team and Luka doesn’t improve over current levels or ever win a ring… book will be remembered like Kobe and Luka like tmac -
ThemZ the rules…
Lol there ain’t no way they’re gonna win multiple chips if he’s their best player. Hell, he’s not even their best player now. Let’s revisit this when CP3 is gone. He’s a great scorer, not much of anything else and sure as hell isn’t the guy I could see putting a team on his back and willing them to wins.
BmanInBigD wrote:CobraCommander wrote:BmanInBigD wrote:Lol there ain’t no way they’re gonna win multiple chips if he’s their best player. Hell, he’s not even their best player now. Let’s revisit this when CP3 is gone. He’s a great scorer, not much of anything else and sure as hell isn’t the guy I could see putting a team on his back and willing them to wins.
If suns win a chip this year he will be there best player. Love cp3 but Booker has just gotten better and at 37 years old CP3 can only give you so much so often. If book wins a ring this year, in my book he will he ahead of Luka. Winning rings are what matters to me. At the end of the career, we can debate what ever we want, but in the moment the last man standing gets the nod from me. It goes the same for if Luka starts winning rings. It might be a era thing… when I was a wee kid - Jordan was good and amazing…but he became great when he did the 3peat.
Booker get rings and Luka get zero rings playing just like he does today( as what we stated in the thread )and book would be the better player… just like Kobe might not be as talented as tmac but he is the better player because …rings
CP3 can give you .210 WS/48 vs Booker’s .156, he can give you you better ORtg AND DRtg, yadda, yadda. Booker may be flashier, but notice that the Suns sucked until CP3 got there. He may be the better player to YOU, but they don’t do crap without Chris Paul. It pains me to say it, cuz I hate the way he acts. But w/o him, Booker is just another really good shooter that won’t REALLY help you win a bunch of games. Being the best (especially marginally) player on a championship team doesn’t put you on some pedestal with all-time greats. IT is the biggest example of being extremely overrated being the marginally best player on a ring team. There’s more nuance and context than that. But if all you care about is rings, there’s no use arguing about it. You’re probably one of those that thought that Nowitzki sucked until 2011.
AtheJ415 wrote:BmanInBigD wrote:CobraCommander wrote:If suns win a chip this year he will be there best player. Love cp3 but Booker has just gotten better and at 37 years old CP3 can only give you so much so often. If book wins a ring this year, in my book he will he ahead of Luka. Winning rings are what matters to me. At the end of the career, we can debate what ever we want, but in the moment the last man standing gets the nod from me. It goes the same for if Luka starts winning rings. It might be a era thing… when I was a wee kid - Jordan was good and amazing…but he became great when he did the 3peat.
Booker get rings and Luka get zero rings playing just like he does today( as what we stated in the thread )and book would be the better player… just like Kobe might not be as talented as tmac but he is the better player because …rings
CP3 can give you .210 WS/48 vs Booker’s .156, he can give you you better ORtg AND DRtg, yadda, yadda. Booker may be flashier, but notice that the Suns sucked until CP3 got there. He may be the better player to YOU, but they don’t do crap without Chris Paul. It pains me to say it, cuz I hate the way he acts. But w/o him, Booker is just another really good shooter that won’t REALLY help you win a bunch of games. Being the best (especially marginally) player on a championship team doesn’t put you on some pedestal with all-time greats. IT is the biggest example of being extremely overrated being the marginally best player on a ring team. There’s more nuance and context than that. But if all you care about is rings, there’s no use arguing about it. You’re probably one of those that thought that Nowitzki sucked until 2011.
Suns with Ayton before CP3 had the 3rd highest winning percentage in the Western conference. Only reason they missed the playoffs by a game was because Ayton missed half of the COVID shortened season due to suspension. It is undeniable they make the playoffs with Ayton not getting suspended. CP3 also knows this, which is why he picked Phoenix as his preferred trade destination.
You have a lot of sour grapes that the Mavs season ends today.
BmanInBigD wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:BmanInBigD wrote:CP3 can give you .210 WS/48 vs Booker’s .156, he can give you you better ORtg AND DRtg, yadda, yadda. Booker may be flashier, but notice that the Suns sucked until CP3 got there. He may be the better player to YOU, but they don’t do crap without Chris Paul. It pains me to say it, cuz I hate the way he acts. But w/o him, Booker is just another really good shooter that won’t REALLY help you win a bunch of games. Being the best (especially marginally) player on a championship team doesn’t put you on some pedestal with all-time greats. IT is the biggest example of being extremely overrated being the marginally best player on a ring team. There’s more nuance and context than that. But if all you care about is rings, there’s no use arguing about it. You’re probably one of those that thought that Nowitzki sucked until 2011.
Suns with Ayton before CP3 had the 3rd highest winning percentage in the Western conference. Only reason they missed the playoffs by a game was because Ayton missed half of the COVID shortened season due to suspension. It is undeniable they make the playoffs with Ayton not getting suspended. CP3 also knows this, which is why he picked Phoenix as his preferred trade destination.
You have a lot of sour grapes that the Mavs season ends today.
They won 23 and 47% of their games in the 2 seasons before CP3 got there and 71 and 78% since he’s been there. You sure you wanna go with that?
CobraCommander wrote:CP3 ancient- which means, like all old people, he can do great things in short periods or periodically.
Johnny Firpo wrote:Book is just jelly that he's never gonna be viewed as good as Luka, even if he wins multiple championships and Luka doesn't.
Magic#1 wrote:We have won two playoff games in two years. If we decide to keep this team for the next two years, maybe it will feel like we won a series.
Pacernation wrote:Don't think Booker did something outrageous here. Just some fun trashtalk. It just doesn't help that he's an unlikable d'bag. Just a low characterguy in general.
Hsker4Life wrote:Pacernation wrote:Don't think Booker did something outrageous here. Just some fun trashtalk. It just doesn't help that he's an unlikable d'bag. Just a low characterguy in general.
What makes him a low character guy?
JoeyLightYears wrote:CobraCommander wrote:CP3 ancient- which means, like all old people, he can do great things in short periods or periodically.
Wtf man! He’s not even 40! I’m way older than him … although it is true I rarely do great things. Not sure that has anything to do with age tho
Pacernation wrote:Don't think Booker did something outrageous here. Just some fun trashtalk. It just doesn't help that he's an unlikable d'bag. Just a low characterguy in general.
OmniStrife wrote:We all know why many dudes find him annoying.
spanishninja wrote:Pacernation wrote:Don't think Booker did something outrageous here. Just some fun trashtalk. It just doesn't help that he's an unlikable d'bag. Just a low characterguy in general.
the guy who donates tons of money to charity through a foundation he himself started, who stayed loyal to a team that was worst in the league for years when so many other young players jumped ship is somehow a low character guy. excellent analysis.