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Post#141 » by JMAC3 » Tue May 10, 2022 9:54 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:Chet is a 4 who you put at 5 for stretches of small ball. And his fit next to Poeltl is absolutely prefect.

Chet and Jakob would be the best rim protecting duo in the league outside Mobley and Allen.


This is a classic "Well Chet is sorta like Mobley" so lets assume he can do everything Mobley does.

Chet is 5. He may have to play some 4 his rookie year because of his weight, but his final position is 5. He can not slide his feet like Mobley can on the perimeter nearly as well. Chet is at his best at the Rim contesting shots. Mobley is at his best switching onto guards and disrupting teams pick and roll offense.
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Post#142 » by kalenclayton » Tue May 10, 2022 9:59 pm

This should help clear up the smoke surrounding his Richaun’s trade value.

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Post#143 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Tue May 10, 2022 10:05 pm

kalenclayton wrote:This should help clear up the smoke surrounding his Richaun’s trade value.

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Not likely the judge would give him custody if they thought the abuse claims had merit, but without knowing more this ruling appears to be based on the technical violation by the ex. Would be good to see the opinion.
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Post#144 » by kalenclayton » Tue May 10, 2022 10:09 pm

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kalenclayton wrote:This should help clear up the smoke surrounding his Richaun’s trade value.

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Not likely the judge would give him custody if they thought the abuse claims had merit, but without knowing more this ruling appears to be based on the technical violation by the ex. Would be good to see the opinion.

Yeah I’m really curious. It would be unethical for them to release a child into the hands of an abuser without merit. This is a pretty ugly case. If you want a good breakdown, check out Jason Anderson’s piece that just came out.

https://www.sacbee.com/sports/nba/sacramento-kings/article261314027.html?fbclid=IwAR0aA-BSXVYS2jw9wSSNMst2pQNpe2lRQ2vIulgJEg-fQsmaEY_8b9PsgcM
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Post#145 » by Mamba4Goat » Thu May 12, 2022 3:36 am

Just for fun…let’s say Memphis looks around at the idea of trade Ja based off of their success without him and are only interested in a 1 great player for 1 great player or 1 great player for 2 really good players type of swap. What would be the best offer out there?
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Post#146 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Thu May 12, 2022 3:43 am

Mamba4Goat wrote:Just for fun…let’s say Memphis looks around at the idea of trade Ja based off of their success without him and are only interested in a 1 great player for 1 great player or 1 great player for 2 really good players type of swap. What would be the best offer out there?


I’d offer:

Bazley, Kenrich, Jerome, 4, and 7-10 future 1sts
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Post#147 » by Godaddycurse » Thu May 12, 2022 3:43 am

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Mamba4Goat wrote:Just for fun…let’s say Memphis looks around at the idea of trade Ja based off of their success without him and are only interested in a 1 great player for 1 great player or 1 great player for 2 really good players type of swap. What would be the best offer out there?


I’d offer:

Bazley, Kenrich, Jerome, 4, and 7-10 future 1sts


Where's the great or really good players in that offer?
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Post#148 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Thu May 12, 2022 3:44 am

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Mamba4Goat wrote:Just for fun…let’s say Memphis looks around at the idea of trade Ja based off of their success without him and are only interested in a 1 great player for 1 great player or 1 great player for 2 really good players type of swap. What would be the best offer out there?


I’d offer:

Bazley, Kenrich, Jerome, 4, and 7-10 future 1sts


Where's the great or really good players in that offer?


I didn’t read past Ja and offer :-?
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Post#149 » by babyjax13 » Thu May 12, 2022 3:45 am

Mamba4Goat wrote:Just for fun…let’s say Memphis looks around at the idea of trade Ja based off of their success without him and are only interested in a 1 great player for 1 great player or 1 great player for 2 really good players type of swap. What would be the best offer out there?

I'd offer Mitchell and Gobert for Ja + Williams + filler + our pick returned.
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Post#150 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Thu May 12, 2022 3:50 am

babyjax13 wrote:
Mamba4Goat wrote:Just for fun…let’s say Memphis looks around at the idea of trade Ja based off of their success without him and are only interested in a 1 great player for 1 great player or 1 great player for 2 really good players type of swap. What would be the best offer out there?

I'd offer Mitchell and Gobert for Ja + Williams + filler + our pick returned.


I don’t think that gets beat. Except Memphis doesn’t really have filler like that with Ja still on his rookie deal.

The only thing I can think of is Jaylen Brown.

Or Siakam/FVV combo, but matching is hard there too.
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Post#151 » by Godaddycurse » Thu May 12, 2022 3:52 am

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babyjax13 wrote:
Mamba4Goat wrote:Just for fun…let’s say Memphis looks around at the idea of trade Ja based off of their success without him and are only interested in a 1 great player for 1 great player or 1 great player for 2 really good players type of swap. What would be the best offer out there?

I'd offer Mitchell and Gobert for Ja + Williams + filler + our pick returned.


I don’t think that gets beat. Except Memphis doesn’t really have filler like that with Ja still on his rookie deal.

The only thing I can think of is Jaylen Brown.

Or Siakam/FVV combo, but matching is hard there too.


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Post#152 » by babyjax13 » Thu May 12, 2022 3:54 am

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Mamba4Goat wrote:Just for fun…let’s say Memphis looks around at the idea of trade Ja based off of their success without him and are only interested in a 1 great player for 1 great player or 1 great player for 2 really good players type of swap. What would be the best offer out there?

I'd offer Mitchell and Gobert for Ja + Williams + filler + our pick returned.


I don’t think that gets beat. Except Memphis doesn’t really have filler like that with Ja still on his rookie deal.

The only thing I can think of is Jaylen Brown.

Or Siakam/FVV combo, but matching is hard there too.


To get a 22 year old who is arguably a top 10 player I think it takes a huge 'overpay' on value...or not really an overpay, you just really have to bleed for it. Ja is the kind of guy a contender can be built around without much fuss, IMO.
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Post#153 » by babyjax13 » Thu May 12, 2022 4:02 am

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babyjax13 wrote:
Mamba4Goat wrote:Just for fun…let’s say Memphis looks around at the idea of trade Ja based off of their success without him and are only interested in a 1 great player for 1 great player or 1 great player for 2 really good players type of swap. What would be the best offer out there?

I'd offer Mitchell and Gobert for Ja + Williams + filler + our pick returned.


I don’t think that gets beat. Except Memphis doesn’t really have filler like that with Ja still on his rookie deal.

The only thing I can think of is Jaylen Brown.

Or Siakam/FVV combo, but matching is hard there too.


Ja + Adams + Williams = $34 million

After not picking up the option on Culver the Grizzlies are at $93 million in salaries with a $122 million salary cap. So they wouldn't have to add much to make it work. Would require Anderson and Tyus capholds to be waived.
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Post#154 » by Asif16 » Thu May 12, 2022 7:42 pm

What type of Contract do you guys think Donte Divicenzo will get? He's a RFA and was reportedly beefing with the kings to end the season.

I think he'd be a great fit for the Raptors. The highest we have is the MLE to use. Is he gonna be worth more than the MLE?
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Post#155 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu May 12, 2022 7:50 pm

Asif16 wrote:What type of Contract do you guys think Donte Divicenzo will get? He's a RFA and was reportedly beefing with the kings to end the season.

I think he'd be a great fit for the Raptors. The highest we have is the MLE to use. Is he gonna be worth more than the MLE?



I think he’s likely a QO guy, unless they can get Sacramento to not offer him the QO and let him be unrestricted. He certainly was very angry with Sacramento trying to “hide him” before entering free agency (in his opinion).
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Post#156 » by Texas Chuck » Thu May 12, 2022 8:19 pm

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Asif16 wrote:What type of Contract do you guys think Donte Divicenzo will get? He's a RFA and was reportedly beefing with the kings to end the season.

I think he'd be a great fit for the Raptors. The highest we have is the MLE to use. Is he gonna be worth more than the MLE?



I think he’s likely a QO guy, unless they can get Sacramento to not offer him the QO and let him be unrestricted. He certainly was very angry with Sacramento trying to “hide him” before entering free agency (in his opinion).


Co-sign. I think a team would have to really overpay him to get him to sign a restricted offer sheet for fear of the Kings matching anything reasonable and I don't think he wants to be there unless he really gets paid.

I also don't think he's done anything to suggest a big offer sheet. I wouldn't give him the full MLE I don't believe.
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Post#157 » by babyjax13 » Thu May 12, 2022 8:30 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
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Asif16 wrote:What type of Contract do you guys think Donte Divicenzo will get? He's a RFA and was reportedly beefing with the kings to end the season.

I think he'd be a great fit for the Raptors. The highest we have is the MLE to use. Is he gonna be worth more than the MLE?



I think he’s likely a QO guy, unless they can get Sacramento to not offer him the QO and let him be unrestricted. He certainly was very angry with Sacramento trying to “hide him” before entering free agency (in his opinion).


Co-sign. I think a team would have to really overpay him to get him to sign a restricted offer sheet for fear of the Kings matching anything reasonable and I don't think he wants to be there unless he really gets paid.

I also don't think he's done anything to suggest a big offer sheet. I wouldn't give him the full MLE I don't believe.


If Utah could clear salary I'd give him the full MLE. Mitchell + DDV is a great hypothetical pairing with DDVs defense + playmaking compliment Mitchell really well.
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Post#158 » by K_chile22 » Thu May 12, 2022 9:11 pm

babyjax13 wrote:
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I think he’s likely a QO guy, unless they can get Sacramento to not offer him the QO and let him be unrestricted. He certainly was very angry with Sacramento trying to “hide him” before entering free agency (in his opinion).


Co-sign. I think a team would have to really overpay him to get him to sign a restricted offer sheet for fear of the Kings matching anything reasonable and I don't think he wants to be there unless he really gets paid.

I also don't think he's done anything to suggest a big offer sheet. I wouldn't give him the full MLE I don't believe.


If Utah could clear salary I'd give him the full MLE. Mitchell + DDV is a great hypothetical pairing with DDVs defense + playmaking compliment Mitchell really well.

I need to go back over the sheet but assuming the rockets still easily get to max space next offseason I'd offer him the MLE as well unless they drop to 5 and end up with wing in the draft
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Post#159 » by Texas Chuck » Thu May 12, 2022 9:14 pm

hmm guess I'm lower on DDV than some other guys. I've just never really understood the hype and his game seems to have stagnated for 2 years now and obviously the major injury. IDK. I get he in theory his game is eventually what a lot of teams could use, but I'd rather go ahead and use the MLE on a veteran we already know will deliver.
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Post#160 » by NYG » Fri May 13, 2022 1:54 am

So uhhh should I start the Thybulle, 23rd Overall and (Green, Harris, Korkmaz and/or Springer) = ?? thread or...?

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