Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Philadelphia 76ers

[Rancid669]

There is no such thing as a healthy Embiid.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

I hope harden opts out and there is a long standoff resulting in the max since Philly can't waste a year of Embiids prime after trading 2 pics for harden. Make it happen

[shangrila]

The entire 1st page is about the Sixers

I mean, they can't give Harden a 5 year max. I think even Morey and Harden realise that, so I expect him to get a 3, maybe 4 year max similar in structure to Paul's.

Outside of that...run it back. This is the bed everyone there has made, they deserve the results.

[KHRICH]

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[Roger Murdock]

I actually think things aren't as bad as they seem but Harden, Embiid, and Morey need a come to Jesus moment and need to realize their legacies will be defined by next season. They have at most a 2 year window and need to capitalize.

If I'm in charge here is my approach:

1. I tell Harden 'get your leg healthy, train, get into shape. I'm not maxing you now but if you get back to 2021 Harden I will pay you next offseason. Get healthy and get in shape. Sit out to start next year if you need time

2. Tell Embiid - man up and be a leader. The whining and awful body language + tossing people under the bus is a toxic approach and corrupting the team

3. Tell Embiid to work on his conditioning and quit hitting the ground so damn much. Being injured and gassed in the playoffs is a major problem

4. Hope for significant internal improvements from Maxi, Thybulle, Joe, and Reed

5. Fire Doc and get someone who's got a good attitude. The fans, the players, and the coaches all bring so much negativity, insecurity, and such little fight when things get tough. Too many quitters and front runners in the locker room. I'm not sure who but someones got to have inspiring leadership out there. Monty Williams would be amazing, obviously never going to happen, but someone with that type of attitude.

This team has
-A top 5 regular season player in Embiid
-A rock solid 2/3/4 in Harden/Harris/Maxey. If Harden gets healthy and back to last years levels this supporting cast should easily be championship caliber
-Some good role players
-Several young guys who have a chance to be rotation quality

Really sucks they probably dont have Green next year but they have the structure of a championship team. They just dont have the heart of one.

The two major issues are

1. if this is who Harden is now they are screwed
2. Harden and Embiid are the two stars in basketball who shrink the most in the post season

[Bruin]

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[KHRICH]

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[DonaldSanders]

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Wow, that is a sick burn on Harden there... not sure if Embiid intended it that way, but that's the effect. Front office can't like this either.

[954gator]

This team is done. Harden looks cooked out there and Joel is just a one man show who's injury prone.

Nah. Sometimes all you need are some really good high energy experienced role players to fill in the missing pieces. Can't tell you how important a guy like Crowder was for my Heat in the bubble. I call guys like that "championship role players". His absence coupled with our main guy Butler having some nagging injuries and some bad luck in general (Oladipo etc) resulted in a first round exit via a large ass broom last season.

The big difference for us this year....PJ Tucker. No better championship role player than that man right there. You hate his ass if he's not on your team, but he's a guy you want battling with ya. Add to that Dipo coming back, the development of Struss and Vincent, some good luck with player health, and here we are having a very nice post season. Sometimes it's just a couple guys healthy and some key non news worthy additions of some dogs rdy to go to war with ya that make the difference.

[binjumper]

Embiid is 28. Harden is pretty washed. Tobias is a waste of money. Maxey is a solid piece. If they run this back I don't think they are a contender and place firmly into the treadmilling section.

[michaelm]

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Wow, that is a sick burn on Harden there... not sure if Embiid intended it that way, but that's the effect. Front office can't like this either.

Not the way to handle a diva I wouldn’t have thought, as he probably should have learnt from last year.

I don’t think Jimmy’s coming back somehow. Harden getting back to something closer to his best would seem like their best option now, but I am not sure this is the best methodology to achieve same.

[954gator]

I do think they might need a change scheme/coaching though. Hero ball just isn't enough to win it anymore.

[Pointgod]

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Joel Embiid in post season form for throwing his teammates under the bus.

[KHRICH]

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OMG said the quiet part out loud

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[the_process]

I think you need to keep Morey at this stage. Let him try and work this through now that he's changed as much as he has.

While I don't like either player, the Embiid/Harden combo needs a pre-season to see if they can get it done and how they can incorporate Maxey.

Nothing makes me happier than 'the process' falling flat. No hate for Philly here, just don't want that blueprint copied around the league.

I've always though Doc is overrated, ever since the Celtics days. Time to move on there.

OKC is copying it right now, hell they invented it truth be told. But no one gives a damn about that, instead they want to focus on Philly.

No hate my ass.

[JimmyPlopper]

1. Fire Doc Rivers
2. Hire Nick Van Exel as head coach
3. Trade Joel Embiid and Furkan Korkmaz for Ben Simmons, Seth Curry, and Nic Claxton.
4. S&T James Harden for 25 Million per year to Washington for Porzingis
5. Trade Charles Bassey and a future 2nd for Boban Marjanovic
5. Win over the hearts of millions

PG: Ben Simmons / Shake Milton
SG: Tyrese Maxey / Seth Curry / Jaden Springer
SF: Danny Green / Mattise Thybulle / Isaiah Joe
PF: Tobias Harris / Georges Niang / Paul Reed
C: Kristaps Porzingis / Nic Claxton / Boban Marjanovic

[God Squad]

Extend Doc and Max James Harden.

[giberish]

1) Move on from Doc
2) Resign Harden for a sane contract. 3/$120 at most. Or say to opt in, get healthy and fit and we could go bigger next offseason. There's no other market for Harden (nobody else can offer $40M without moves, and the teams with cap space that are even vaguely close aren't interesting).
3) try to upgrade around the edges. No DeAndre Jordan, you're not tanking. See if someone is still crazy high on Thybulle to get a starter quality guy back.

[RoyceDa59]

Doc has to go, don’t waste another year we know what happens here. Rip the bandaid off and bring in a winner.

Unfortunately, re-sign Harden to a 4 year max. There’s no way around this, the bed has been made it’s time to sleep in it. Philly has a 4 year window as a fringe contender and while it’s not the best collection of expensive stars, with some luck there’s a chance they snag a title,
although unlikely from this vantage point.

Keep Tobias and Maxey for another go next season. Those 2 performed well in the playoffs.

They need to bring in leadership & championship experience around their core.