There is no work ethic/obsessed/drive narrative around Jokic

[MarcusBrody]

Honestly, he could work on his body some more. He’s gotten some of the weight off, but he could tone up a bit. If he was able to play more than 32 minutes per game it would be huge.

I don't totally understand your impression of Jokic.

He has averaged more than that for the past two years now and never had a playoff series where he averaged less than 33.5, and maxed out at 42.5 minutes per game.

Even when he was visibly chubby he had good cardio and would basically never fade in 4th quarters/overtimes. It was actually one of the reasons I started to enjoy watching him. It would be late in the game and there'd be these whole squads of chiseled Adonises just looking like they were dying and this random, chubby guy who looked like he basically wandered in having delivered some steaks to the arena restaurant somehow seeming like it was no big deal as he kept scoring and grabbing boards.

Edit: Looking it up, Jokic scores at a higher rate in the 4th quarter than he does in the 1st. Or 3rd. 2nd is ambiguous as he scored at a higher rate per 100 poss in the 2nd this year, but in the 4th last year. In any case, there is no real evidence that he's hitting a major wall late in games or playing a lower than average amount of minutes.

You have seemingly forgotten to mention his late game defense this year in the playoffs. The warriors hunted him relentlessly on that end in the fourth quarter and he was very obviously gassed every single game. I get that fat guys like to have someone who they can relate to and champion as their own, but it's an area he can work on. Sorry if that offends you.

You make factual claims that are disprovable and when that evidence is presented to you instead of saying "huh, I was wrong, I don't know why I thought that" you make a more subjective claim hoping someone can't pull stats that show you just made something up.

GS definitely wanted Jokic in the PnR for a variety of reasons, but Jokic didn't gas. In the final game, he scored 12 points in the final 6 minutes. I don't know what to tell you, his conditioning is good.

[Big J]

I don't totally understand your impression of Jokic.

He has averaged more than that for the past two years now and never had a playoff series where he averaged less than 33.5, and maxed out at 42.5 minutes per game.

Even when he was visibly chubby he had good cardio and would basically never fade in 4th quarters/overtimes. It was actually one of the reasons I started to enjoy watching him. It would be late in the game and there'd be these whole squads of chiseled Adonises just looking like they were dying and this random, chubby guy who looked like he basically wandered in having delivered some steaks to the arena restaurant somehow seeming like it was no big deal as he kept scoring and grabbing boards.

Edit: Looking it up, Jokic scores at a higher rate in the 4th quarter than he does in the 1st. Or 3rd. 2nd is ambiguous as he scored at a higher rate per 100 poss in the 2nd this year, but in the 4th last year. In any case, there is no real evidence that he's hitting a major wall late in games or playing a lower than average amount of minutes.

You have seemingly forgotten to mention his late game defense this year in the playoffs. The warriors hunted him relentlessly on that end in the fourth quarter and he was very obviously gassed every single game. I get that fat guys like to have someone who they can relate to and champion as their own, but it's an area he can work on. Sorry if that offends you.

You make factual claims that are disprovable and when that evidence is presented to you instead of saying "huh, I was wrong, I don't know why I thought that" you make a more subjective claim hoping someone can't pull stats that show you just made something up.

GS definitely wanted Jokic in the PnR for a variety of reasons, but Jokic didn't gas. In the final game, he scored 12 points in the final 6 minutes. I don't know what to tell you, his conditioning is good.

You keep going on about scoring, yet neglect to mention how badly he was getting gashed in the 4th on defense. There is actual evidence of him being exhausted, so there's that as well.

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[AleksandarN]

Honestly, he could work on his body some more. He’s gotten some of the weight off, but he could tone up a bit. If he was able to play more than 32 minutes per game it would be huge.

I don't totally understand your impression of Jokic.

He has averaged more than that for the past two years now and never had a playoff series where he averaged less than 33.5, and maxed out at 42.5 minutes per game.

Even when he was visibly chubby he had good cardio and would basically never fade in 4th quarters/overtimes. It was actually one of the reasons I started to enjoy watching him. It would be late in the game and there'd be these whole squads of chiseled Adonises just looking like they were dying and this random, chubby guy who looked like he basically wandered in having delivered some steaks to the arena restaurant somehow seeming like it was no big deal as he kept scoring and grabbing boards.

Edit: Looking it up, Jokic scores at a higher rate in the 4th quarter than he does in the 1st. Or 3rd. 2nd is ambiguous as he scored at a higher rate per 100 poss in the 2nd this year, but in the 4th last year. In any case, there is no real evidence that he's hitting a major wall late in games or playing a lower than average amount of minutes.

You have seemingly forgotten to mention his late game defense this year in the playoffs. The warriors hunted him relentlessly on that end in the fourth quarter and he was very obviously gassed every single game. I get that fat guys like to have someone who they can relate to and champion as their own, but it's an area he can work on. Sorry if that offends you.

Man those Jokic fans live rent free in your head. Always try to troll them. It is sad. Just enjoy life and enjoy the Warriors. You seem to care more about Jokic than your own team. I find that sad.

[KyRo23]

Why do people always have to make basketball into a soap opera? I get that it's entertainment, but it always turns into some weird narratives lol. Jokic is amazing, we don't have an inside look on his work ethic and drive.

[GrandTheftRondo]

Lmao. Maybe go back and watch his rookie self compared to now.

If Jokic has never been a hard worker his improvement is the greatest miracle in history.

[Ryoga Hibiki]

When we hear stories of Wilt dominating and people say “Yeah but he played against part time mailmen”…

30-40 years from now people gonna be saying “Jokic dominated as a part time jockey”

He's not a jockey, he does harness racing

[CobraCommander]

The guy plays basketball all damn year - wins the mvp...then goes back to home country and spends TRAINING horses to RACE every damn day. Listen to his mvp convo on tnt....he was suprised that his horses trainer wanted him to come in afternoon because they get started early....and they caught him on his buggy when the cam crew got there...because he was training his horses...I think this guy has demonstrated amazing work ethic and the fact he knew Shaq didn’t do back to back MVPs shows he ain’t just playing the game...he has his eyes on the best of the best and wants to eclipse them.


The hardest working guy isn’t always talking about it...sometimes he is just winning MVPs back to back



I think Jokic grew up around driven, focused, competitive people and when everyone is like that you don’t talk about ...you just do your thing day after day and the results are the outcome of the work.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

probably why he cant put a real postseason run together outside a rested bubble

Couldn't be that his teammates have let him down, it is jokic's fault they have only made 1 conference finals.

oh right the pity thing.
poor guy cant get a lick of help

He's no "KembaWalker" in terms of carrying bball teams to postseason basketball success, that is for sure. Thank you for the contribution my friend.

[JN61]

White man has hobbies during his off season and gets criticized for it. Great...

[Infinite Llamas]

Jokić grew up with competitive brothers and I’m sure he had to work hard for everything he wanted in life.

Someone explain to me how a guy would go from a second round pick to the MVP in 6 years without having a work ethic? It’s a fools analogy.

[p0peye]

There is no narrative around Jokić, period.

You don't go from this kid on image below to a top basketball player without work ethic or you quickly become Zion or Eddy Curry.



White chubby kid that plays below the rim improved to kick a$$ of black long limbed athletes that can jump out of gym. Enjoy the basketball in its purest form or suck it up.

[CobraCommander]

There is no narrative around Jokić, period.

You don't go from this kid on image below to a top basketball player without work ethic or you quickly become Zion or Eddy Curry.



White chubby kid that plays below the rim improved to kick a$$ of black long limbed athletes that can jump out of gym. Enjoy the basketball in its purest form or suck it up.

Kinda weird and kinda racist....

Jokic is beating everyone...all humans - he ain’t beating “black people”

Some of y’all got issues with yourselves and some type of complex about black people so you are engaging in ‘transference’...the Techincal term for you clowns that watch people that cheer for someone to beat the people you have a complex about...”yeah Jokic show those black guys whose best”...but Jokic won the mvp...singular award for Jokic...HE alone rules basketball- you don’t get an tiny award - REALGM is better than the rest of the internet cause we about merit and not race...get outta here lol...you deserve a tech...maybe even a flagrant 2 bro....

[AleksandarN]

There is no narrative around Jokić, period.

You don't go from this kid on image below to a top basketball player without work ethic or you quickly become Zion or Eddy Curry.



White chubby kid that plays below the rim improved to kick a$$ of black long limbed athletes that can jump out of gym. Enjoy the basketball in its purest form or suck it up.

Kinda weird and kinda racist....

Jokic is beating everyone...all humans - he ain’t beating “black people”

Some of y’all got issues with yourselves and some type of complex about black people so you are engaging in ‘transference’...the Techincal term for you clowns that watch people that cheer for someone to beat the people you have a complex about...”yeah Jokic show those black guys whose best”...but Jokic won the mvp...singular award for Jokic...HE alone rules basketball- you don’t get an tiny award - REALGM is better than the rest of the internet cause we about merit and not race...get outta here lol...you deserve a tech...maybe even a flagrant 2 bro....

Agree 100 percent

[Wolfgang630]

There is no narrative around Jokić, period.

You don't go from this kid on image below to a top basketball player without work ethic or you quickly become Zion or Eddy Curry.



White chubby kid that plays below the rim improved to kick a$$ of black long limbed athletes that can jump out of gym. Enjoy the basketball in its purest form or suck it up.

This is a bad post and comes off as racist.

[axeman23]

[bearadonisdna]

Can Jokic even be the best player on a championship team ?
In the WCF Jamal Murray was the nuggets high scorer on in 3 of their 4 wins.
We all know Murray isn’t the best player on a championship team .

This is a league where the stars have to score 30-40 points to win . We see it every year , just having a superstar isn’t enough . Usually they need transcendent performance , Gianni’s, Durant , kawhi etc.

And then you got Jokic taking a back seat to Murray who isn’t even Allstar caliber.

[CobraCommander]

Can Jokic even be the best player on a championship team ?
In the WCF Jamal Murray was the nuggets high scorer on in 3 of their 4 wins.
We all know Murray isn’t the best player on a championship team .

This is a league where the stars have to score 30-40 points to win . We see it every year , just having a superstar isn’t enough . Usually they need transcendent performance , Gianni’s, Durant , kawhi etc.

And then you got Jokic taking a back seat to Murray who isn’t even Allstar caliber.

We will find out!

[bbalnation]

I empathize for those **** horses lugging him or any other human being around

Appreciate ya Nikola. That team success is near, imo.

[Ben-N1ce]

He doesn't need to work. He clearly won the genetic lottery.

[Richard Miller]

And then you got Jokic taking a back seat to Murray who isn’t even Allstar caliber.

How many "Allstar calibers" have had multiple 50 pt games in a playoff series?