Isaac to Minnesota, Beasley to New Orleans

[babyjax13]

MIN trades: 2022 MIN 1st (19), Malik Beasley, Leandro Bolmaro
MIN receives: Jonathan Isaac, 2022 NOP 2nd (41)
Minnesota gets a power forward who can help anchor their defense and is stretchy enough to maximize Edwards' rim pressure.

NOP trades: 2022 NOP 2nd (41)
NOP receives: Malik Beasley (into TPE)
New Orleans gets a bench sniper for a second-round pick.

ORL trades: Jonathan Isaac
ORL receives: Leandro Bolmaro, 2022 MIN 1st (19)
Orlando continues their rebuild by getting a small forward prospect plus a mid-first for a player that could be made really redundant if they draft Smith or Banchero.

[HornetJail]

I think this is the best Orlando could hope to receive. I see the merit for MIN and I don't think anybody would get too up in arms if they traded #19 but I think it's an overpay. I'd say ORL should be chipping in one of their 2nds. Making it a swap from 32 or 35 to 19. I think the development in Isaac's contract situation bumps him to mostly neutral value to slight positive if you're feeling adventurous.

[jpatrick]

It comes down to the medicals. If healthy and retains his athleticism, it’s an obvious yes from Minnesota. Perfect fit. But how does a team trust his health? How do they know if he will be the same player?

Beasley is not a throw-in. His movement shooting really keyed MN the second half of the year after he got back into shape. Plus 19 and Bolmaro? I don’t know. If Isaac is never is able to stay on the court, you’ve blown all your assets and got worse.

[Godaddycurse]

Is towns ok with him being antivax?

[babyjax13]

It comes down to the medicals. If healthy and retains his athleticism, it’s an obvious yes from Minnesota. Perfect fit. But how does a team trust his health? How do they know if he will be the same player?

Beasley is not a throw-in. His movement shooting really keyed MN the second half of the year after he got back into shape. Plus 19 and Bolmaro? I don’t know. If Isaac is never is able to stay on the court, you’ve blown all your assets and got worse.

My thought is basically that he will always be an injury risk, but that the idea that if "Orlando is willing to trade him no one should be willing to buy" is a bit too simplistic for how the NBA actually operates. So, if Minnesota is reasonably confident that the worst of his injuries are behind him, I think this is a nice way to round out the rotation. If they don't feel that way, then it isn't worth it. That Isaac has those non-guarantees does make it more palatable.

[babyjax13]

Is towns ok with him being antivax?

I think that's a good question. Towns did defend Wiggins a *bit* but it might be different having someone so vocally anti-vax on the team.

[tiderulz]

I think this is the best Orlando could hope to receive. I see the merit for MIN and I don't think anybody would get too up in arms if they traded #19 but I think it's an overpay. I'd say ORL should be chipping in one of their 2nds. Making it a swap from 32 or 35 to 19. I think the development in Isaac's contract situation bumps him to mostly neutral value to slight positive if you're feeling adventurous.

if that is the best Orlando could hope for, they just keep him and at worst see if he can become a 20 mpg difference maker on defense. calling Balmaro a prospect is generous. a non-lottery pick like this can usually be found other ways

[wolves_89]

For the Wolves, I think this is just too risky a move. This is a swing for the fences type of deal (with a strikeout being a high probability), when all Minnesota needs is a few solid additions. A year ago I would have been in favor of the Wolves making this type of trade, but today I'm looking for players that provide safe production not a guy who has played 136 games in the last 5 years.

[lordjeff05]

I know we are only an ancillary part of this deal but the Pels say yes pretty quickly

[babyjax13]

I think this is the best Orlando could hope to receive. I see the merit for MIN and I don't think anybody would get too up in arms if they traded #19 but I think it's an overpay. I'd say ORL should be chipping in one of their 2nds. Making it a swap from 32 or 35 to 19. I think the development in Isaac's contract situation bumps him to mostly neutral value to slight positive if you're feeling adventurous.

if that is the best Orlando could hope for, they just keep him and at worst see if he can become a 20 mpg difference maker on defense. calling Balmaro a prospect is generous. a non-lottery pick like this can usually be found other ways

Bolmaro is a recent first round pick who was very good in the gleague (13p 5r 6a 1s). Three point shooting needs to come around but he's a 90%FT shooter so reason to believe it well. Dismissing him because you don't know about him or don't like him doesn't make much sense, he's a prospect I'd be ecstatic to have on the Jazz.

If Orlando wants to keep Isaac, fine, I was just proposing something if they draft yet another big.

[MKWB]

It comes down to the medicals. If healthy and retains his athleticism, it’s an obvious yes from Minnesota. Perfect fit. But how does a team trust his health? How do they know if he will be the same player?

Beasley is not a throw-in. His movement shooting really keyed MN the second half of the year after he got back into shape. Plus 19 and Bolmaro? I don’t know. If Isaac is never is able to stay on the court, you’ve blown all your assets and got worse.

It all hinges on his health/ medicals. If he's recovered from his leg injuries and shows signs of long-term health and availability -- then the Magic will keep him, or trade him for high value. If his medicals show long term concern for his legs/knees/availability-- then he has little value to Magic or any team.

[HornetJail]

I think this is the best Orlando could hope to receive. I see the merit for MIN and I don't think anybody would get too up in arms if they traded #19 but I think it's an overpay. I'd say ORL should be chipping in one of their 2nds. Making it a swap from 32 or 35 to 19. I think the development in Isaac's contract situation bumps him to mostly neutral value to slight positive if you're feeling adventurous.

if that is the best Orlando could hope for, they just keep him and at worst see if he can become a 20 mpg difference maker on defense. calling Balmaro a prospect is generous. a non-lottery pick like this can usually be found other ways

I don't disagree that Orlando can opt to retain Isaac, might be the wisest move if they still believe in him.

[moss_is_1]

Seems too steep for the Wolves. Beasley is valuable to us, though I think he's our main trade chip due to salary and having a lot of guards.

Bolmaro struggled as a rookie, but he did show some things as well. Good defensive intensity, good size, good handle and passing.

19 I think can be a great trade chip, or has a chance to get a quality rookie. Think this is a pretty deep draft for a chance at high end role players. If wolves are gonna have guys making a lot of money, they'll need cheap contributors.

[tiderulz]

I think this is the best Orlando could hope to receive. I see the merit for MIN and I don't think anybody would get too up in arms if they traded #19 but I think it's an overpay. I'd say ORL should be chipping in one of their 2nds. Making it a swap from 32 or 35 to 19. I think the development in Isaac's contract situation bumps him to mostly neutral value to slight positive if you're feeling adventurous.

if that is the best Orlando could hope for, they just keep him and at worst see if he can become a 20 mpg difference maker on defense. calling Balmaro a prospect is generous. a non-lottery pick like this can usually be found other ways

Bolmaro is a recent first round pick who was very good in the gleague (13p 5r 6a 1s). Three point shooting needs to come around but he's a 90%FT shooter so reason to believe it well. Dismissing him because you don't know about him or don't like him doesn't make much sense, he's a prospect I'd be ecstatic to have on the Jazz.

If Orlando wants to keep Isaac, fine, I was just proposing something if they draft yet another big.

not just 3 pt shooting, he shot 31% from the field too.

[Magic_Johnny12]

The difference between the level of prospects at #19 compared to #32/#35 in THIS draft is minuscule if any at all.

Not enough incentive for Orlando to pull the trigger.

This trade seems a lot closer with McDaniels involved somehow.

[babyjax13]

if that is the best Orlando could hope for, they just keep him and at worst see if he can become a 20 mpg difference maker on defense. calling Balmaro a prospect is generous. a non-lottery pick like this can usually be found other ways

Bolmaro is a recent first round pick who was very good in the gleague (13p 5r 6a 1s). Three point shooting needs to come around but he's a 90%FT shooter so reason to believe it well. Dismissing him because you don't know about him or don't like him doesn't make much sense, he's a prospect I'd be ecstatic to have on the Jazz.

If Orlando wants to keep Isaac, fine, I was just proposing something if they draft yet another big.

not just 3 pt shooting, he shot 31% from the field too.

No, you are looking at the Gleague's terrible site. Go to the upper left and change from "splits usage" to "traditional." Lord only knows why they chose this. He shot 43.7% from the field.

[babyjax13]

The difference between the level of prospects at #19 compared to #32/#35 in THIS draft is minuscule if any at all.

Not enough incentive for Orlando to pull the trigger.

This trade seems a lot closer with McDaniels involved somehow.

I think Orlando would need to send back a pick if the swap were McDaniels for Isaac. McDaniels and Isaac are statistically very similar in their first two years, only McDaniels hasn't been consistently injured, is younger, and already has chemistry with the team.

[moss_is_1]

The difference between the level of prospects at #19 compared to #32/#35 in THIS draft is minuscule if any at all.

Not enough incentive for Orlando to pull the trigger.

This trade seems a lot closer with McDaniels involved somehow.

That's not happening.

[shrink]

After two years of injury, and writing big checks for no production, I don’t believe the real Magic front office values Isaac like the posters do.

I appreciate the OP’s attempt, but if this generous offer gets poopoo’ed, I don’t think there’s much room for discussion on Isaac trades here on the RealGM Trade Boards.

[shangrila]

It comes down to the medicals. If healthy and retains his athleticism, it’s an obvious yes from Minnesota. Perfect fit. But how does a team trust his health? How do they know if he will be the same player?

Beasley is not a throw-in. His movement shooting really keyed MN the second half of the year after he got back into shape. Plus 19 and Bolmaro? I don’t know. If Isaac is never is able to stay on the court, you’ve blown all your assets and got worse.

My thought is basically that he will always be an injury risk, but that the idea that if "Orlando is willing to trade him no one should be willing to buy" is a bit too simplistic for how the NBA actually operates. So, if Minnesota is reasonably confident that the worst of his injuries are behind him, I think this is a nice way to round out the rotation. If they don't feel that way, then it isn't worth it. That Isaac has those non-guarantees does make it more palatable.

This would assume that Orlando shares that confidence, at which point I doubt they're willing to do this.

I get there's questions of fit there, especially at this pre-lottery stage where it looks like they'll be adding another PF, but they're not really at a stage to be giving away talent like this.