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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1501 » by the_process » Sat May 14, 2022 6:39 pm

Hussien Fatal wrote:Maxey/Harris for Donovan Mitchell


I have also proposed this. But upon further consideration, if Harden is still here, since neither one of them put forth any effort defensively, having Jo trying to cover for both of them would be too much.

If Harden walks, then sure.
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Post#1502 » by Kobblehead » Sat May 14, 2022 7:01 pm

Don't know how Donovan would mesh with two other mega egos in Embiid/Harden.
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Post#1503 » by davesilver » Sat May 14, 2022 7:57 pm

Tobias Maxey Thybulle 2nd for Mitchell O’Neal Clarkson

Green Furk 1st for Grant

Harden Mitchell O’Neal Grant Embiid
Clarkson Shake Niang Reed

Add some defensive depth for 2nd unit
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Post#1504 » by mjkvol » Sat May 14, 2022 8:33 pm

davesilver wrote:Tobias Maxey Thybulle 2nd for Mitchell O’Neal Clarkson

Green Furk 1st for Grant

Harden Mitchell O’Neal Grant Embiid
Clarkson Shake Niang Reed

Add some defensive depth for 2nd unit


Nice. I think DET is going to be looking for more than that for Grant, and I don't see Utah trading Mitchell for anything but another 'superstar' type.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1505 » by davesilver » Sat May 14, 2022 8:49 pm

mjkvol wrote:
davesilver wrote:Tobias Maxey Thybulle 2nd for Mitchell O’Neal Clarkson

Green Furk 1st for Grant

Harden Mitchell O’Neal Grant Embiid
Clarkson Shake Niang Reed

Add some defensive depth for 2nd unit


Nice. I think DET is going to be looking for more than that for Grant, and I don't see Utah trading Mitchell for anything but another 'superstar' type.


Variation of trade --

PHI
Out: Thybulle, Maxey, Shake, Harris, Korkmaz, Green, '22 1st
In: Beal, Clarkson, O'Neal, House, Kuzma

UTA
Out: Clarkson, Mitchell, O'Neal
In: Thybulle, Maxey, Shake, Harris, PHI '22 1st, WAS '23 1st

WAS
Out: Beal, Kuzma, '23 1st
In: Mitchell, Korkmaz, Green

We roll out Harden Beal O'Neal Kuzma Embiid with a bench of Clarkson, Springer, House, Niang, Reed
We take a step back defensively (still top 12) with a top 3 offense and a top 5 net rtg
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Post#1506 » by sixers4real » Sun May 15, 2022 10:48 am

Sixers trade: Harris, Thybulle, pick and a swap. (Total $42M)
Rockets trade: Wood, Gordon, Nwaba. (Total $39M)

Sixers trade: Korkmaz, Milton (total $7M)
Kings trade: Justin Holiday ($7M)

C - Embiid / Reed / Bassey
F - Wood / Reed / Niang
F - Holiday / Nwaba / Niang
G - Maxey / Gordon / Joe
G - Harden / Gordon / Springer
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1507 » by sixers4real » Sun May 15, 2022 11:04 am

davesilver wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
davesilver wrote:Tobias Maxey Thybulle 2nd for Mitchell O’Neal Clarkson

Green Furk 1st for Grant

Harden Mitchell O’Neal Grant Embiid
Clarkson Shake Niang Reed

Add some defensive depth for 2nd unit


Nice. I think DET is going to be looking for more than that for Grant, and I don't see Utah trading Mitchell for anything but another 'superstar' type.


Variation of trade --

PHI
Out: Thybulle, Maxey, Shake, Harris, Korkmaz, Green, '22 1st
In: Beal, Clarkson, O'Neal, House, Kuzma

UTA
Out: Clarkson, Mitchell, O'Neal
In: Thybulle, Maxey, Shake, Harris, PHI '22 1st, WAS '23 1st

WAS
Out: Beal, Kuzma, '23 1st
In: Mitchell, Korkmaz, Green

We roll out Harden Beal O'Neal Kuzma Embiid with a bench of Clarkson, Springer, House, Niang, Reed
We take a step back defensively (still top 12) with a top 3 offense and a top 5 net rtg

But we don’t have a 2022 first. We traded it to Brooklyn in a Harden deal
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1508 » by davesilver » Sun May 15, 2022 4:37 pm

sixers4real wrote:
davesilver wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
Nice. I think DET is going to be looking for more than that for Grant, and I don't see Utah trading Mitchell for anything but another 'superstar' type.


Variation of trade --

PHI
Out: Thybulle, Maxey, Shake, Harris, Korkmaz, Green, '22 1st
In: Beal, Clarkson, O'Neal, House, Kuzma

UTA
Out: Clarkson, Mitchell, O'Neal
In: Thybulle, Maxey, Shake, Harris, PHI '22 1st, WAS '23 1st

WAS
Out: Beal, Kuzma, '23 1st
In: Mitchell, Korkmaz, Green

We roll out Harden Beal O'Neal Kuzma Embiid with a bench of Clarkson, Springer, House, Niang, Reed
We take a step back defensively (still top 12) with a top 3 offense and a top 5 net rtg

But we don’t have a 2022 first. We traded it to Brooklyn in a Harden deal


I believe Nets are going to opt for the ‘23 first instead, leaving ‘22 open to trade?
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Post#1509 » by PhillyFan11 » Sun May 15, 2022 7:05 pm

Someone explain to me now 30% from 3 Brad Beal is good for this team? He’s not a fit in general and any deal that would involve swapping Maxey for Beal is idiotic. ‘23 Maxey > ‘23 Beal. Beal is the king of empty stats
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Post#1510 » by brannigan73 » Sun May 15, 2022 7:12 pm

Here is one of my classic shots in the dark. I feel like Cleveland has decided Colin Sexton is not a big part of there future. He is small and not much of a defender or playmaker so doesnt fit well next to Garland who is the centerpiece of the franchise. Also, they didnt miss him at all when he went out they played very well actually. I also feel like he doesnt have much trade value at the moment. Thybulle for Sexton. Thybulle would be a bigger defense oriented guard to pair with Garland and the Cavs are not as far along in there expectations so the Cavs might be more willing to develop Thybulle then a lot of teams. Sexton would be our Lou Williams/Jordan Clarkson fearless gunner off the bench. Whatever you say about Sexton he can get buckets.
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Post#1511 » by mjkvol » Sun May 15, 2022 7:20 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:Someone explain to me now 30% from 3 Brad Beal is good for this team? He’s not a fit in general and any deal that would involve swapping Maxey for Beal is idiotic. ‘23 Maxey > ‘23 Beal. Beal is the king of empty stats


Thank you. Beal is Tobias Harris all over again, complete with the max deal some sucker team is going to give him.
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Post#1512 » by Kobblehead » Sun May 15, 2022 7:23 pm

Agreed. Not a believer in Brad Beal's skill level. I think his production and perception is a bit bloated and I don't think he's as talented as those two things suggest. The general fans already think Harden and Embiid are overrated. If we also had Beal, we'd be the team everyone tuned in to watch trip all over themselves.
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Post#1513 » by mjkvol » Sun May 15, 2022 7:23 pm

brannigan73 wrote:Here is one of my classic shots in the dark. I feel like Cleveland has decided Colin Sexton is not a big part of there future. He is small and not much of a defender or playmaker so doesnt fit well next to Garland who is the centerpiece of the franchise. Also, they didnt miss him at all when he went out they played very well actually. I also feel like he doesnt have much trade value at the moment. Thybulle for Sexton. Thybulle would be a bigger defense oriented guard to pair with Garland and the Cavs are not as far along in there expectations so the Cavs might be more willing to develop Thybulle then a lot of teams. Sexton would be our Lou Williams/Jordan Clarkson fearless gunner off the bench. Whatever you say about Sexton he can get buckets.


I would do that deal in a second. I don't love Sexton, but he offers something we need while getting rid of Thybulle before the league catches on that he is fool's gold.
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Post#1514 » by Kobblehead » Sun May 15, 2022 7:27 pm

brannigan73 wrote:Here is one of my classic shots in the dark. I feel like Cleveland has decided Colin Sexton is not a big part of there future. He is small and not much of a defender or playmaker so doesnt fit well next to Garland who is the centerpiece of the franchise. Also, they didnt miss him at all when he went out they played very well actually. I also feel like he doesnt have much trade value at the moment. Thybulle for Sexton. Thybulle would be a bigger defense oriented guard to pair with Garland and the Cavs are not as far along in there expectations so the Cavs might be more willing to develop Thybulle then a lot of teams. Sexton would be our Lou Williams/Jordan Clarkson fearless gunner off the bench. Whatever you say about Sexton he can get buckets.

Issue with Sexton is that he thinks he's a franchise centerpiece and he wants the max. He's basically Dion Waiters all over again from a mentality standpoint. He's not likely to be too happy in a role in Philly where he watches Tyrese Maxey get all the adulation that Collin thinks he deserves.
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Post#1515 » by mjkvol » Sun May 15, 2022 7:32 pm

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brannigan73 wrote:Here is one of my classic shots in the dark. I feel like Cleveland has decided Colin Sexton is not a big part of there future. He is small and not much of a defender or playmaker so doesnt fit well next to Garland who is the centerpiece of the franchise. Also, they didnt miss him at all when he went out they played very well actually. I also feel like he doesnt have much trade value at the moment. Thybulle for Sexton. Thybulle would be a bigger defense oriented guard to pair with Garland and the Cavs are not as far along in there expectations so the Cavs might be more willing to develop Thybulle then a lot of teams. Sexton would be our Lou Williams/Jordan Clarkson fearless gunner off the bench. Whatever you say about Sexton he can get buckets.

Issue with Sexton is that he thinks he's a franchise centerpiece and he wants the max. He's basically Dion Waiters all over again from a mentality standpoint. He's not likely to be too happy in a role in Philly where he watches Tyrese Maxey get all the adulation that Collin thinks he deserves.


That's actually a very good point.
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Post#1516 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sun May 15, 2022 7:53 pm

Collin Sexton is a very intriguing name that should be available during the offseason. I see Kyle Lowry when I watch him play. I would also trade Thybulle for him in a nanosecond. Getting Sexton to buy into being a sixth man would be the hurdle. There's 96 minutes at the guard position. You go three guard rotation with Harden at 32, Maxey at 34, and Sexton at 30. Sexton while short is a very good, very feisty defensive player. Tough minded, can score on anyone in the game. Yeah, I'd definitely add him if the opportunity presented itself. We need a reserve that can get us points.
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Post#1517 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun May 15, 2022 8:30 pm

We need someone in the starting lineup who can be our go-to scorer down the stretch in a playoff series. If it’s not Maxey, then we need to trade for or sign that player this off-season.
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Post#1518 » by mjkvol » Sun May 15, 2022 9:24 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:We need someone in the starting lineup who can be our go-to scorer down the stretch in a playoff series. If it’s not Maxey, then we need to trade for or sign that player this off-season.


I just don't think that player is Bradley Beal. He is Tobias Harris redux, complete with the max contract.
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Post#1519 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sun May 15, 2022 9:26 pm

^ Agree, Beal is kind of a punk ass player. Don't really want him here.
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Post#1520 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun May 15, 2022 11:33 pm

mjkvol wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:We need someone in the starting lineup who can be our go-to scorer down the stretch in a playoff series. If it’s not Maxey, then we need to trade for or sign that player this off-season.


I just don't think that player is Bradley Beal. He is Tobias Harris redux, complete with the max contract.


I think he's a tier above Tobias. Even when Tobias had his own team, he was never scoring at the volume Beal has been. Beal has also carried the scoring load in a playoff series, unlike Tobias.

All this to say I think Beal is an option, but not worth breaking the bank for (i.e. Maxey). Every champion in recent memory has had a perimeter scorer who can take over when the game slows down in the half-court. Plus, we need a 3rd guard anyways, so I don’t see the harm in swapping Harris + for Beal to kill two birds with one stone.

Maybe the front office and Maxey can focus on him becoming that half court killer this offseason? That's the only in-house solution though. If that can happen then we just need a 3rd guard (Beverley, Hield, etc) and a starting 3&D SF who can rebound.

Harden(34)/X(14)
Maxey(14)/X(14)
Y(28)/Niang(20)
Harris(32)/Reed(16)
Embiid(32)/Bassey(16)

Harden/Springer/Milton
Maxey/X/Joe
Y/Niang/Korkmaz
Harris/Reed/(Vet min)
Embiid/Bassey/(Vet min)
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Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Grimes/Edgecombe/Gordon
Oubre/Edwards
George/Watford/Barlow
Embiid/Bona/Drummond/Broome

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