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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#281 » by sp6r=underrated » Mon May 16, 2022 2:30 am

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That's now 5 times that CP3 has blown a 2 0 series lead in the playoffs.


Can you explain to me why it is worse to lose 4-2 rather than 4-0?
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Post#282 » by MartinToVaught » Mon May 16, 2022 2:31 am

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coastalmarker99 wrote:All that trash talking all year by the Sun's players and their fans.

Just to get utterly humiliated on their home floor in a game seven is so funny


Who the **** does Devin Booker think he is trash talking Luka like that :lol: :lol: :lol:

Bum is barely a star and thinks hes a superstar. All those cringe and disgusting Kobe comps mustve got to him

He was so cringey last season trying to force a rivalry with Paul George like PG isn't ten times the player Booker will ever be. I'd love to see Booker go toe-to-toe against prime LeGOAT with Roy Hibbert as his second-best player. He would get swept and every game would look like tonight's beatdown.
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#283 » by JordansBulls » Mon May 16, 2022 2:34 am

SpreeS wrote::lol:

This game finished all debates of Paul/Curry

You mean Paul vs Isiah.
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#284 » by sp6r=underrated » Mon May 16, 2022 2:37 am

coastalmarker99 wrote:All that trash talking all year by the Sun's players and their fans.


Are the Suns really big trash talkers? Luka is a huge trash talker. Embiid is egregious. Dray acts like it is still the teens
Are the 10 Suns fans on realgm really big **** talkers?

I'd say the three teams they eliminated last year were much more obnoxious claiming it was only due to injuries when the Suns had a better season than all 3 again.

coastalmarker99 wrote:Just to get utterly humiliated on their home floor in a game seven is so funny


Is that worse than the Nuggets who won 1 playoff game?
Is that worse than the Clippers who couldn't even make the playoffs?
Is it worse than the Lakers who couldn't make the play-in?

This critique reminds me of the people who go 4-6 when talking about Lebron. Making the finals and losing is way better than not making the finals.

This was a bad defeat for Phoenix. They were upset. And we should analyze why. But just remember other than Stockton no little guard has ever mattered in NBA HISTORY at Paul's age.
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#285 » by Statlanta » Mon May 16, 2022 2:41 am

Frankly this was another career defining loss in a career starved of victories. No one is going to remember the 14/14 game when his run ended like this.
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#286 » by MartinToVaught » Mon May 16, 2022 2:48 am

sp6r=underrated wrote:
coastalmarker99 wrote:Just to get utterly humiliated on their home floor in a game seven is so funny


Is that worse than the Nuggets who won 1 playoff game?
Is that worse than the Clippers who couldn't even make the playoffs?

Both those teams were destroyed by injuries and still overachieved this season while the Suns had all their best players and choked, so yes, it is worse.

By the way, that Clippers team you're mocking just beat Playoff Luka in back-to-back years while the entire Suns franchise just got ended by that same Playoff Luka at home.

The only bigger laughingstocks in the NBA this year are the Lakers and Nets.
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#287 » by sp6r=underrated » Mon May 16, 2022 2:54 am

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sp6r=underrated wrote:
coastalmarker99 wrote:Just to get utterly humiliated on their home floor in a game seven is so funny


Is that worse than the Nuggets who won 1 playoff game?
Is that worse than the Clippers who couldn't even make the playoffs?

Both those teams were destroyed by injuries and still overachieved this season while the Suns had all their best players and choked, so yes, it is worse.

By the way, that Clippers team you're mocking just beat Playoff Luka in back-to-back years while the entire Suns franchise just got ended by that same Playoff Luka at home.

The only bigger laughingstocks in the NBA this year are the Lakers and Nets.


If your team gets destroyed year after year by injury the way you're building your team is flawed.
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#288 » by MartinToVaught » Mon May 16, 2022 2:58 am

sp6r=underrated wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:
sp6r=underrated wrote:
Is that worse than the Nuggets who won 1 playoff game?
Is that worse than the Clippers who couldn't even make the playoffs?

Both those teams were destroyed by injuries and still overachieved this season while the Suns had all their best players and choked, so yes, it is worse.

By the way, that Clippers team you're mocking just beat Playoff Luka in back-to-back years while the entire Suns franchise just got ended by that same Playoff Luka at home.

The only bigger laughingstocks in the NBA this year are the Lakers and Nets.


If your team gets destroyed year after year by injury the way you're building your team is flawed.

Yeah, I'm sure a Robert Sarver-owned franchise that just spent an entire decade missing the playoffs has the secret sauce to roster construction that the Nuggets and Clippers lack. It's definitely not just luck.
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#289 » by GSP » Mon May 16, 2022 3:36 am

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That's now 5 times that CP3 has blown a 2 0 series lead in the playoffs.


Can you explain to me why it is worse to lose 4-2 rather than 4-0?


Going up 2-0 means you at least had a shot in the series. And for every series Cp3 went up 2-0 and choked he had Hca in every series and was the favorite for all of them except 08 Spurs. And he was the heavy favorite for the rest of them too while only small dog in 08 Spurs
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#290 » by JordansBulls » Mon May 16, 2022 3:50 am

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coastalmarker99 wrote:
That's now 5 times that CP3 has blown a 2 0 series lead in the playoffs.


Can you explain to me why it is worse to lose 4-2 rather than 4-0?

Losing with HCA is never good and when up 2-0 is even worse.
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#291 » by GSP » Mon May 16, 2022 3:58 am

Read on Twitter


lmaoooooooooo more ppl catching up to his bs
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#292 » by sp6r=underrated » Mon May 16, 2022 4:06 am

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sp6r=underrated wrote:
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That's now 5 times that CP3 has blown a 2 0 series lead in the playoffs.


Can you explain to me why it is worse to lose 4-2 rather than 4-0?


Going up 2-0 means you at least had a shot in the series. And for every series Cp3 went up 2-0 and choked he had Hca in every series and was the favorite for all of them except 08 Spurs. And he was the heavy favorite for the rest of them too while only small dog in 08 Spurs


Thank you for the response. So if I understand you the reason losing 2-0 leads is bad because (i) your team was clearly superior. Out of these blown 2-0 leads there are 2 series were the teams were extremely close and 1 series that occurred when the player was 37.

Are 2013 & 2018 really that bad to damn an entire career?


2008: +0.36 SRS advantage.
2013: +2.11 SRS advantage
2016: +3.15 SRS advantage.
2021: +0.10 SRS advantage.
2022: +3.82 SRS advantage

Let's look at his individual performances:

In 2008 he played extremely well and was the best player on either team.
In 2013 he turned in one clunker of a game and played an excellent G5 and G6.
I've said consistently you can't knock the suns for building a durable team that could withstand injuries. Paul's relative lack of durability is the big flaw in him as a player. So 2016 is the one big knock for me on the list.

But if you're one of those guys who knock the Suns for playing teams with injuries it is pure hypocriscy to turn around and then hold Paul responsible for 2016. Are you one of those guys who brings up the Suns injuries?

2021: plays very poorly in G3/G4. Plays well in G5/G6
2022: plays very poorly in the 2nd half of the series.

So looking at his series, I see one legit train wreck at 37. Another series were he played poorly 2016. 2021 were his play was uneven but basically fine and very strong in 2013/2008.

Basically it looks to me like you're making a huge deal out of 2 series that occured when it is him and John Stockton as the only little men who mattered
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#293 » by toodles23 » Mon May 16, 2022 4:06 am

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coastalmarker99 wrote:
That's now 5 times that CP3 has blown a 2 0 series lead in the playoffs.


Can you explain to me why it is worse to lose 4-2 rather than 4-0?

I don't think it's necessarily "worse", but when you've blown that many playoff series leads I think it could point to something flawed about CP3's game, where his approach can get figured out over the course of a playoff series. I think it's possible that his ultra conservative approach to the game becomes very predictable compared to a guy like Nash who's much more aggressive and willing to take risks with his passing and decision making. Aside from the 2-0 leads he also lost to the 2015 Rockets after going up 3-1.
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#295 » by MartinToVaught » Mon May 16, 2022 4:12 am

GSP wrote:
Read on Twitter


lmaoooooooooo more ppl catching up to his bs

Looks like Teflon Chris has his excuses in order. By October, this meltdown will be swept under the rug and all you'll hear about is the mythical quad injury that didn't exist until after he lost.

CP3 and Doc really do deserve each other. They're practically the same person.
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Post#296 » by TroubleS0me » Mon May 16, 2022 4:14 am

MartinToVaught wrote:
GSP wrote:
Read on Twitter


lmaoooooooooo more ppl catching up to his bs

Looks like Teflon Chris has his excuses in order. By October, this meltdown will be swept under the rug and all you'll hear about is the mythical quad injury that didn't exist until after he lost.

CP3 and Doc really do deserve each other. They're practically the same person.


lol stop
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#297 » by GSP » Mon May 16, 2022 4:44 am

I think Cp3s flopping and foul baiting rubbed off on Booker. He was flopping and fishing for calls so much in this series. I dont remember him being that type of player pre Cp3
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#298 » by Lost92Bricks » Mon May 16, 2022 4:44 am

toodles23 wrote:I don't think it's necessarily "worse", but when you've blown that many playoff series leads I think it could point to something flawed about CP3's game, where his approach can get figured out over the course of a playoff series. I think it's possible that his ultra conservative approach to the game becomes very predictable compared to a guy like Nash who's much more aggressive and willing to take risks with his passing and decision making. Aside from the 2-0 leads he also lost to the 2015 Rockets after going up 3-1.

But Nash never even came close to winning a championship, never made a finals. You guys talk about Nash like he won championships, no he "failed" in the playoffs too.
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#299 » by GSP » Mon May 16, 2022 5:33 am

ShotCreator wrote:They’ll be fine. Stay home on shooters and the Mavs are solved. Everything else is mostly nonsense. Including DeAndre Ayton’s defensive instincts, or lack thereof.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

This might be funnier than when you were gloating about Cp3 being up 2-0 against Milwaukee and about to SURGICALLY remove them from playoffs before Jrue clamped his **** whenever he guarded him :lol: :lol:
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Re: Chris Paul 21-22 Thread 

Post#300 » by Lost92Bricks » Mon May 16, 2022 5:40 am

MartinToVaught wrote:Looks like Teflon Chris has his excuses in order. By October, this meltdown will be swept under the rug and all you'll hear about is the mythical quad injury that didn't exist until after he lost.

CP3 and Doc really do deserve each other. They're practically the same person.

Doc literally won a championship. You're discrediting your stance and you don't even know it.

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