2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2.0

[Saul Goodman]

if you can turn Fred into Ayton in some kind of 3 way deal that would be huge



To PHX
Jaxson Hayes
Khem Birch
Malachi
Kira Lewis
2 1sts


to NO
Fred Van Vleet


To Toronto
Ayton sign and trade
Devone Graham




Barnes/Trent/OG/Pascal/Ayton


Graham/MLE(Malik Monk)/Champangie/Boucher/Precious

[Los_29]

if you can turn Fred into Ayton in some kind of 3 way deal that would be huge



To PHX
Jaxson Hayes
Khem Birch
Malachi
Kira Lewis
2 1sts


to NO
Fred Van Vleet


To Toronto
Ayton sign and trade
Devone Graham




Barnes/Trent/OG/Pascal/Ayton


Graham/MLE(Malik Monk)/Champangie/Boucher/Precious

The problem is Ayton is going to want a lot of money in the offseason and he's not the kind of player you want to be paying big bucks too. I like Ayton and I think he's a great player but he's not worth what he's likely going to get paid.

[Asif16]

Teams give Max contracts based off potential and age. I've seen worse players get a Max than Ayton. Someone will def Max out Ayton.

He's not gonna be in our price range and we wont be able to fit him in unless we sign and trade OG or FVV

[Asif16]

My offseason plan

Birch + Flynn + Svi for Holmes

Draft the best wing available at 33

Bring Boucher back for 2yrs 22-24
Thad at under 2yrs 8mill

Full MLE to Garry Harris

Bae to Delon Wright

Bring back Jalen Harris + Yuta

Champagne 2way

New roster

FVV / Banton /
Trent / Delon / J.Harris
OG / Garry Harris / Yuta / #33
Barnes / Boucher / Thad
Pascal / Precious / Holmes

Incoming - Garry Harris + Delon + Holmes + #33
Outgoing - Birch + Flynn + Svi

literally makes 0 difference

You say it makes no difference but this is exactly the type of off-season the Raptors will most likely have

Also, I don't see how it doesn't make a difference. Our bench and depth are significantly better than what we just had. We have more Shooting/Ball Handling/Playmaking/Rotational Players

Masai has made it clear our core is staying intact and that he will try to improve the depth this off-season

[Appostis]

if you can turn Fred into Ayton in some kind of 3 way deal that would be huge



To PHX
Jaxson Hayes
Khem Birch
Malachi
Kira Lewis
2 1sts


to NO
Fred Van Vleet


To Toronto
Ayton sign and trade
Devone Graham




Barnes/Trent/OG/Pascal/Ayton


Graham/MLE(Malik Monk)/Champangie/Boucher/Precious

The problem is Ayton is going to want a lot of money in the offseason and he's not the kind of player you want to be paying big bucks too. I like Ayton and I think he's a great player but he's not worth what he's likely going to get paid.

I disagree..he's going to be a stud

[TheRaptor!]

My offseason plan

Birch + Flynn + Svi for Holmes

Draft the best wing available at 33

Bring Boucher back for 2yrs 22-24
Thad at under 2yrs 8mill

Full MLE to Garry Harris

Bae to Delon Wright

Bring back Jalen Harris + Yuta

Champagne 2way

New roster

FVV / Banton /
Trent / Delon / J.Harris
OG / Garry Harris / Yuta / #33
Barnes / Boucher / Thad
Pascal / Precious / Holmes

Incoming - Garry Harris + Delon + Holmes + #33
Outgoing - Birch + Flynn + Svi

literally makes 0 difference

You say it makes no difference but this is exactly the type of off-season the Raptors will most likely have

Also, I don't see how it doesn't make a difference. Our bench and depth are significantly better than what we just had. We have more Shooting/Ball Handling/Playmaking/Rotational Players

Masai has made it clear our core is staying intact and that he will try to improve the depth this off-season

Yes, because Masai would be better off saying he is looking to trade core pieces to upgrade the team?

You look to improve every year, internal development is a given, but you always look to make serious improvements. Gary harris and holmes aint doing anything. The team's ceiling is the damn same, we are still not beating the celtics bucks heat philly or the nets.

If you think we will sit on our hands waiting for barnes to improve and other team's players to decline you're going to be surprised. lol

[Saul Goodman]

if you can turn Fred into Ayton in some kind of 3 way deal that would be huge



To PHX
Jaxson Hayes
Khem Birch
Malachi
Kira Lewis
2 1sts


to NO
Fred Van Vleet


To Toronto
Ayton sign and trade
Devone Graham




Barnes/Trent/OG/Pascal/Ayton


Graham/MLE(Malik Monk)/Champangie/Boucher/Precious

The problem is Ayton is going to want a lot of money in the offseason and he's not the kind of player you want to be paying big bucks too. I like Ayton and I think he's a great player but he's not worth what he's likely going to get paid.

I disagree..he's going to be a stud

Especially with the long bois lineup being a perm feature. Him as a legit lob threat can really expand scotties game. Ayton would also make our defence ELITE as we'll finally have the means to close out defensive possessions with Ayton's rebounding.

[Asif16]

literally makes 0 difference

You say it makes no difference but this is exactly the type of off-season the Raptors will most likely have

Also, I don't see how it doesn't make a difference. Our bench and depth are significantly better than what we just had. We have more Shooting/Ball Handling/Playmaking/Rotational Players

Masai has made it clear our core is staying intact and that he will try to improve the depth this off-season

Yes, because Masai would be better off saying he is looking to trade core pieces to upgrade the team?

You look to improve every year, internal development is a given, but you always look to make serious improvements. Gary harris and holmes aint doing anything. The team's ceiling is the damn same, we are still not beating the celtics bucks heat philly or the nets.

If you think we will sit on our hands waiting for barnes to improve and other team's players to decline you're going to be surprised. lol

lmao how long have you been following this team? What in the past has shown you that Masai is gonna start trading core pieces around and go for it now after 1 year of development? We are not in a Kawhi situation.

If you really think Masai is gonna go big game hunting this offseason then I feel sorry for you. Cuz you gonna be hella disappointed. Masai will improve the depth of this team this off-season and that's that. Its gonna be another year of development for our young guys.

And also, Holmes/Harris/Wright/Boucher/Precious/Thad is a lot better than the **** **** we had this past year

[billy_hoyle]

OG + Birch + 1st for Ayton S&T

[Appostis]

OG + Birch + 1st for Ayton S&T

As much as I would hate to give up on OG..maybe

[Chandan]

He's not gonna be in our price range and we wont be able to fit him in unless we sign and trade OG or FVV

What exactly is the hold up here？

[goinrogue]

I trade Fred for Ayton in a heartbeat. Scottie is the future and Ayton fits our timeline. Nick would be great with him.

[Chandan]

Yes, because Masai would be better off saying he is looking to trade core pieces to upgrade the team?

You look to improve every year, internal development is a given, but you always look to make serious improvements. Gary harris and holmes aint doing anything. The team's ceiling is the damn same, we are still not beating the celtics bucks heat philly or the nets.

If you think we will sit on our hands waiting for barnes to improve and other team's players to decline you're going to be surprised. lol

lmao how long have you been following this team? What in the past has shown you that Masai is gonna start trading core pieces around and go for it now after 1 year of development? We are not in a Kawhi situation.

If you really think Masai is gonna go big game hunting this offseason then I feel sorry for you. Cuz you gonna be hella disappointed. Masai will improve the depth of this team this off-season and that's that. Its gonna be another year of development for our young guys.

And also, Holmes/Harris/Wright/Boucher/Precious/Thad is a lot better than the **** **** we had this past year

Its not like masai's previous teams ever had contender tier ceiling except for the miracle trade year with kawhi. Maybe its time for him to adjust his style a little and be a bit more aggressive. Not saying make trades for trades sake. But banking on internal development might not be enough to catch up with the talent inflation across the league, especially with the elite teams (or teams that already have superstars that are a few pieces of talent away from contending)

[Los_29]

if you can turn Fred into Ayton in some kind of 3 way deal that would be huge



To PHX
Jaxson Hayes
Khem Birch
Malachi
Kira Lewis
2 1sts


to NO
Fred Van Vleet


To Toronto
Ayton sign and trade
Devone Graham




Barnes/Trent/OG/Pascal/Ayton


Graham/MLE(Malik Monk)/Champangie/Boucher/Precious

The problem is Ayton is going to want a lot of money in the offseason and he's not the kind of player you want to be paying big bucks too. I like Ayton and I think he's a great player but he's not worth what he's likely going to get paid.

I disagree..he's going to be a stud

He won’t be a stud if you’re paying him 35 million a year lol.

[TheRaptor!]

lmao how long have you been following this team? What in the past has shown you that Masai is gonna start trading core pieces around and go for it now after 1 year of development? We are not in a Kawhi situation.

Not very long, I became a fan after the Raptors won the championship. Ignore my 2007 join date.

Who the hell said we are "going for it" now? Just because we are not "going for it" doesn't mean mean fan favourites like OG for example is an untouchable.

[TheRaptor!]

Yes, because Masai would be better off saying he is looking to trade core pieces to upgrade the team?

You look to improve every year, internal development is a given, but you always look to make serious improvements. Gary harris and holmes aint doing anything. The team's ceiling is the damn same, we are still not beating the celtics bucks heat philly or the nets.

If you think we will sit on our hands waiting for barnes to improve and other team's players to decline you're going to be surprised. lol

lmao how long have you been following this team? What in the past has shown you that Masai is gonna start trading core pieces around and go for it now after 1 year of development? We are not in a Kawhi situation.

If you really think Masai is gonna go big game hunting this offseason then I feel sorry for you. Cuz you gonna be hella disappointed. Masai will improve the depth of this team this off-season and that's that. Its gonna be another year of development for our young guys.

And also, Holmes/Harris/Wright/Boucher/Precious/Thad is a lot better than the **** **** we had this past year

Its not like masai's previous teams ever had contender tier ceiling except for the miracle trade year with kawhi. Maybe its time for him to adjust his style a little and be a bit more aggressive. Not saying make trades for trades sake. But banking on internal development might not be enough to catch up with the talent inflation across the league, especially with the elite teams (or teams that already have superstars that are a few pieces of talent away from contending)

This guy gets it.

Talent inflation is the perfect way to put it.

[no dice]

We need ayton on the team. Hes like an agile ver of JV with better range. Imagine with our limited shot creation currently, adding another solid scoring option at the 5 is gonna open up more open 3s for us.

Unfortunately OG would pair up nicely with him but he's the most likely player to go

[Lord_Zedd]

Can see San Antonio offering Poeltl and a package of 1st round picks they've accumulated for Ayton.

[Gavin_TDThree]

I don't follow enough Suns basketball to know if this is a one off because they got smoked or if this is a consistent trend

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/deandre-aytons-possible-monty-williams-beef-in-suns-game-7-blowout-loss-sent-fans-into-free-agency-frenzy/ar-AAXjUzq?ocid=uxbndlbing

The Suns were down by 36 points with more than eight minutes left in the third quarter. Ayton made a poor defensive play, offering no effort to close out on another uncontested 3-pointer by Dallas. It wasn’t his only defensive possession that looked ugly.

But I do know Ayton is set to enter restricted free agency, and he has a cap hold of $31.5 million. That’s a lot of money for someone who has a limited role in their offensive identity and isn’t a juggernaut on the defensive end of the floor, to be honest.

Phoenix’s front office will not be over the moon about giving Ayton max money worth $176.9 million over five years, especially with massive money owed to other players on their roster. This doesn’t seem much like a marriage destined to last for an eternity.

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How is his attitude typically?

[Jadoogar]

prob OG.

Which id do TBH..

Ayton is going to get the max..he won't be available

Who tf is giving him the max lmao. Suns didn’t wanna give it to him last offseason. highly doubt they wanna give it to him now

Ayton is a recent #1 pick, young, good resume (aside from last night). he is 100% getting the max from someone.