Let's talk about just how bad that KP trade was

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Re: Let's talk about just how bad that KP trade was 

Post#141 » by dirkdiggler4177 » Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:13 pm

According to NBA insider Marc Stein, the Mavs were already pessimistic about getting a deal done for Porzingis until two suitors in the Raptors and Wizards showed “serious” interest in the sharpshooting big man. Unfortunately for Dallas, Toronto didn’t like the outlook on KP’s health and stopped their pursuit, which led to Mark Cuban and company focusing on Washington to make a trade happen.

Toronto, league sources say, stepped away because of concerns about Porzingis’ long-term health. The Wizards, sources say, went ahead with the trade on their end — to add to the bluntness — because they were as eager to ship out Spencer Dinwiddie and Dāvis Bertāns as the Mavericks were to move on from the idea that Porzingis could be the ideal co-star for Luka Doncic.

https://clutchpoints.com/mavs-news-the-real-reason-raptors-backed-out-of-kristaps-porzingis-trade-talks/
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Re: Let's talk about just how bad that KP trade was 

Post#142 » by gottamakeit » Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:31 pm

dirkdiggler4177 wrote:According to NBA insider Marc Stein, the Mavs were already pessimistic about getting a deal done for Porzingis until two suitors in the Raptors and Wizards showed “serious” interest in the sharpshooting big man. Unfortunately for Dallas, Toronto didn’t like the outlook on KP’s health and stopped their pursuit, which led to Mark Cuban and company focusing on Washington to make a trade happen.

Toronto, league sources say, stepped away because of concerns about Porzingis’ long-term health. The Wizards, sources say, went ahead with the trade on their end — to add to the bluntness — because they were as eager to ship out Spencer Dinwiddie and Dāvis Bertāns as the Mavericks were to move on from the idea that Porzingis could be the ideal co-star for Luka Doncic.

https://clutchpoints.com/mavs-news-the-real-reason-raptors-backed-out-of-kristaps-porzingis-trade-talks/


The eagerness to get off of Dinwiddie's & Bertans's contracts should've led to weakened bargaining position. I have no idea how the Mavs weren't able to draw even the tiniest bit of value out of Washington. Porzingis's contract & upside is better than those 2.
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Re: Let's talk about just how bad that KP trade was 

Post#143 » by dirkdiggler4177 » Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:32 pm

gottamakeit wrote:
dirkdiggler4177 wrote:According to NBA insider Marc Stein, the Mavs were already pessimistic about getting a deal done for Porzingis until two suitors in the Raptors and Wizards showed “serious” interest in the sharpshooting big man. Unfortunately for Dallas, Toronto didn’t like the outlook on KP’s health and stopped their pursuit, which led to Mark Cuban and company focusing on Washington to make a trade happen.

Toronto, league sources say, stepped away because of concerns about Porzingis’ long-term health. The Wizards, sources say, went ahead with the trade on their end — to add to the bluntness — because they were as eager to ship out Spencer Dinwiddie and Dāvis Bertāns as the Mavericks were to move on from the idea that Porzingis could be the ideal co-star for Luka Doncic.

https://clutchpoints.com/mavs-news-the-real-reason-raptors-backed-out-of-kristaps-porzingis-trade-talks/


The eagerness to get off of Dinwiddie's & Bertans's contracts should've led to weakened bargaining position. I have no idea how the Mavs weren't able to draw even the tiniest bit of value out of Washington. Porzingis's contract & upside is better than those 2.


Not if there is only one team in the whole league who is interested. it is pretty clear that his value is very low and the Mavs expect him to be reinjured soon and so did the rest of the league. He was also super happy when talking about getting the call that he was getting traded. Like, he was gone.
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Re: Let's talk about just how bad that KP trade was 

Post#144 » by gottamakeit » Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:34 pm

dirkdiggler4177 wrote:
gottamakeit wrote:
dirkdiggler4177 wrote:According to NBA insider Marc Stein, the Mavs were already pessimistic about getting a deal done for Porzingis until two suitors in the Raptors and Wizards showed “serious” interest in the sharpshooting big man. Unfortunately for Dallas, Toronto didn’t like the outlook on KP’s health and stopped their pursuit, which led to Mark Cuban and company focusing on Washington to make a trade happen.

Toronto, league sources say, stepped away because of concerns about Porzingis’ long-term health. The Wizards, sources say, went ahead with the trade on their end — to add to the bluntness — because they were as eager to ship out Spencer Dinwiddie and Dāvis Bertāns as the Mavericks were to move on from the idea that Porzingis could be the ideal co-star for Luka Doncic.

https://clutchpoints.com/mavs-news-the-real-reason-raptors-backed-out-of-kristaps-porzingis-trade-talks/


The eagerness to get off of Dinwiddie's & Bertans's contracts should've led to weakened bargaining position. I have no idea how the Mavs weren't able to draw even the tiniest bit of value out of Washington. Porzingis's contract & upside is better than those 2.


Not if there is only one team in the whole league who is interested. it is pretty clear that his value is very low and the Mavs expect him to be reinjured soon and so did the rest of the league. He was also super happy when talking about getting the call that he was getting traded. Like, he was gone.


KP's value was always going to be the highest with the Mavs, meaning they should not have traded him. He was in the midst of his best(arguably) season with the Mavs. The only thing not going for him this year was his 3 point shot, which I am confident would have rebounded like they did for many guys across the league (like another Mav that just got extended).

Also on your second claim of predicting another injury. I don't think you can predict a catastrophic injury(ACL/MCL) with strong confidence. Sure there are risk factors, but those would have been know prior to even trading for Kristaps.

Do you not know that the Bertans's contract was regarded as one of the worst contracts in the entire league?
The dude could not get playing time on a non-playoff treadmill team. Even if Dallas thought they could rehab his value, why would Dallas bail out Washington so easily? They clearly did not understand that they had leverage in this situation
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Re: Let's talk about just how bad that KP trade was 

Post#145 » by gottamakeit » Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:42 pm

Nothing makes any sense to me.
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Re: Let's talk about just how bad that KP trade was 

Post#146 » by Branduil » Mon Feb 28, 2022 10:10 am

Doesn't seem too bad right now.
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Re: Let's talk about just how bad that KP trade was 

Post#147 » by zshawn10 » Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:48 pm

Lol what a bump. Bertans surprisingly is shooting well for him again from 3 and Spencer has had a couple of 20 pt games for the mavs
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Re: Let's talk about just how bad that KP trade was 

Post#148 » by Branduil » Mon May 16, 2022 6:28 am

IMHO it was a good trade and worked out well for both teams. Probably a little better for Dallas right now.

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