Jalen Brunson obsession

[NoStatsGuy]

brunson in NY will fail. im not a fan of that signing, especially at the price that the market will give him.

we need a player that can grow with the team. and not pray that some solid player, comming off some deep playoff runs can take over a losing team.that usually ends badly.

dont get me wrong brunson developed into a nice piece, who can contribute on a winning team. but hes not the kind of player that we need. and this situation is also bad for him. because it will probably hurt his value, his %s will drop because he thinks he needs to shoot more and forces up shots. etc. brunson needs a playmaker and we also need a playmaker.

this is not a good fit

[duetta]

Given the way Dallas has played, if Cuban refuses to pay Brunson full value, then you have to wonder about Brunson.

There's no reason why Cuban should want to break up his core after this run. He has two weapons in the backcourt, each one of which has now proven himself capable of carrying a team in a playoff series.

Cuban was smart to allow his team to acquire a high draft position and then trade to get the player that he really wanted. That's the model that we need to be pursuing.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Brunson is legit good….and that is why the Knicks won’t get him.

[KnicksNext]

Can't stand this guy's height. It's his weakness....

[KnicksNext]

Non factor in game 7. I'll take my chances with Immanuel Quickley and Miles McBride development.

'Non-Factor' who scored 24 points and had 6 rebounds. 2-4 from three. Such a horrible non-factor. Another great call! You're on a roll my man.

[KnicksNext]

I still don't want this midget

Yeah, I think he works well with that Dallas roster because of all of the big wings they have. While I've grown to respect his talent over the course of these playoffs, which have been great, I'm not sure I want to feature him as our PG. He's a good fit in Dallas and Cuban is going to pay him. So why would he give up what they're doing in Dallas to come here?

Really? You're not the least bit tired of not having a competent PG for over 20 years? Not ready to commit to a 25 PG who would bring leadership, and help to start a winning culture on the Knicks? Won two chips at Nova.. now part of a resurging Mavs franchise. You don't think he could help out at all?

[KnicksNext]

We aren't getting brunson, dallas is going to match and why would he leave luca?
So you anti brunson folks dont worry.

This is the sad reality. Now we can get back to the discussions about whether we should consider a Burks/IQ/Rokas PG rotation. So thankful we won't have a chance to get Brunson. We don't need a player like that who just mooches off of Luka and that's the only reason he does anything in the NBA.

[KnicksNext]

brunson in NY will fail. im not a fan of that signing, especially at the price that the market will give him.

we need a player that can grow with the team. and not pray that some solid player, comming off some deep playoff runs can take over a losing team.that usually ends badly.

dont get me wrong brunson developed into a nice piece, who can contribute on a winning team. but hes not the kind of player that we need. and this situation is also bad for him. because it will probably hurt his value, his %s will drop because he thinks he needs to shoot more and forces up shots. etc. brunson needs a playmaker and we also need a playmaker.

this is not a good fit

Yeah, makes sense even though Brunson IS a playmaker, and knows how to run a team (which we desperately need). Don't want or need him. He will automatically fail even though he's very familiar with NYC, comes from a great basketball family who know NY. All the signs of a player who will just turn into a chucker who forget how to play basketball if he came here.

[8516knicks]

"Given the way Dallas has played, if Cuban refuses to pay Brunson full value, then you have to wonder about Brunson."
OR wonder about Cuban is more like it!

[bleedblue3303]

Brunson just might get max or near max. Forget him. Thats just too expensive cap-wise for what he does

It's interesting the no one who thinks Brunson would be "too expensive for what he does" can name a single NBA point guard who is affordable (and gettable) who meets their quality demands and "is worth it."

Let alone one who makes less than $15M/season.

Doesn't have to be Brunson. But it does have to be SOMEONE. Someone not named Mudiay, Burks, Burke, Galloway, washed Kemba, verging on washed/always injured Rose. You know, and actual decent PG in his 20's that has a FUTURE not a PAST to look forward to.

We are going NOWHERE without a decent PG.

Hawks - Trey Young
Charlotte - Ball
Dallas - Doncick
Cleveland - Garland
Suns - Paul
It starts with a decent PG!!!!

But I susppose they think Randle, RJ (next contract) and Mitch (next contract) ARE WORTH IT FOR WHAT THEY DO. Pretty expensive to deliver 37 wins a year, don't u think?

I have one. How about Immanuel Quickley?

[blueNorange]

Brunson is legit good….and that is why the Knicks won’t get him.

brunson plays with a player that's on a hof trajectory.

[sol537]

Brunson is legit good….and that is why the Knicks won’t get him.

brunson plays with a player that's on a hof trajectory.

In NY, he’d have Randle, which is nearly as good.

[8516knicks]

Brunson just might get max or near max. Forget him. Thats just too expensive cap-wise for what he does

It's interesting the no one who thinks Brunson would be "too expensive for what he does" can name a single NBA point guard who is affordable (and gettable) who meets their quality demands and "is worth it."

Let alone one who makes less than $15M/season.

Doesn't have to be Brunson. But it does have to be SOMEONE. Someone not named Mudiay, Burks, Burke, Galloway, washed Kemba, verging on washed/always injured Rose. You know, and actual decent PG in his 20's that has a FUTURE not a PAST to look forward to.

We are going NOWHERE without a decent PG.

Hawks - Trey Young
Charlotte - Ball
Dallas - Doncick
Cleveland - Garland
Suns - Paul
It starts with a decent PG!!!!

But I susppose they think Randle, RJ (next contract) and Mitch (next contract) ARE WORTH IT FOR WHAT THEY DO. Pretty expensive to deliver 37 wins a year, don't u think?

I have one. How about Immanuel Quickley?

Sure. Give him a shot this year. Not like we have any choice anyway. But it's a sh*t or get off the pot year for him. Either he can deliver at a Maxey/Brunson level or he can't. And probably the difference if he gets another Knick contract or not.

[louisorr]

sure the guy doesn't have NBA measurable, but he's a college player of the year who led his team to 10-0 record in 2 years in the tournament. a lot like vanvleet, lowry, jameer. all tough sobs that know how to win. IQ is too mercurial right now to pin a season's hopes on him.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

sure the guy doesn't have NBA measurable, but he's a college player of the year who led his team to 10-0 record in 2 years in the tournament. a lot like vanvleet, lowry, jameer. all tough sobs that know how to win. IQ is too mercurial right now to pin a season's hopes on him.

I agree with this as well. However, I just don't see how Brunson shakes loose from the Mavs at this point. If they get humiliatingly swept by the Warriors, then maybe both Brunson and Cuban will think again, but for the most part this looks like Brunson gets to get a max contract to be the #2 guy on a team very close to winning the championship. That has to be better than getting the same money to suffer on the Knicks and be joint #1 with Randle, surely???

[Deeeez Knicks]

Brunson is legit good….and that is why the Knicks won’t get him.

brunson plays with a player that's on a hof trajectory.

In NY, he’d have Randle, which is nearly as good.

Luka or Randle…very tough decision on who he would rather play with

[blueNorange]

Brunson is legit good….and that is why the Knicks won’t get him.

brunson plays with a player that's on a hof trajectory.

In NY, he’d have Randle, which is nearly as good.

[NoStatsGuy]

brunson in NY will fail. im not a fan of that signing, especially at the price that the market will give him.

we need a player that can grow with the team. and not pray that some solid player, comming off some deep playoff runs can take over a losing team.that usually ends badly.

dont get me wrong brunson developed into a nice piece, who can contribute on a winning team. but hes not the kind of player that we need. and this situation is also bad for him. because it will probably hurt his value, his %s will drop because he thinks he needs to shoot more and forces up shots. etc. brunson needs a playmaker and we also need a playmaker.

this is not a good fit

Yeah, makes sense even though Brunson IS a playmaker, and knows how to run a team (which we desperately need). Don't want or need him. He will automatically fail even though he's very familiar with NYC, comes from a great basketball family who know NY. All the signs of a player who will just turn into a chucker who forget how to play basketball if he came here.

brunson is not a playmker.. are you watching the games?

you completely missed the point. i dont care if he knows his way around in NY and how his family loves NY. im sure kemba and all the other NY natives we had in the last years also loved NY.

1st of all the game is a lot easier if you play with someone like luka and he will not have that luxury in NY. 2nd how many times did we see players having a good season or playoffs, getting fat contracts and then not living up to the expecatation, because they changed the way they play with more responsibilites. it has nothing to do with "forgetting how to play". its about getting attention from defenses, other players helping you succeed, etc. Brunson is perfect for a team with a player like luka and a lot of proven roleplayers. but NY has none of that.

i know you guys want to see some change and are frustrated with the team. but jalen brunson aint it, trust me. especially not for the price we will have to pay.

[FlashFlood]

Quick thoughts;

Does anyone really expect Brunson to shake loose from Dallas now that they're in the western conference finals? This is the best season they've had since Dirk and Brunson plays a huge part in that.

Not to forget Cuban's biggest regret with the Dirk-led championship team was letting Tyson Chandler go the following year. He knows how brittle a team's composition is and will be willing to overpay to keep his team's recipe for success intact.

Brunson would clearly be an upgrade at PG for the Knicks. Not saviour-level, but an upgrade nonetheless. I just don't think he's really available.

[FrozenEnvelope]

No chance Cuban lets Brunson walk after making the WCF.