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Pachinko_ wrote:DroseReturnChi wrote:Pachinko_ wrote:Holy ****, I didn't realise Paul is signed to 24/25
then what are they supposed to do? waste cap space when no star is coming? suns should be thanking cp3 for what he did.
they were a lotto 1st round without him.
Couldn't they thank him without paying him the GDP of Mozambique?
life_saver wrote:I have a question for Suns fans...do you think Bridges has been good enough player in playoffs to justify his 4 yr $90M contract? I don't watch him as often as you guys do but from what I have seen of him in playoffs, I find him underwhelming. Offensively he just seems really easy to stop, can't create own shot and his 3 pt shot also doesn't look consistent
azwfan wrote:Not sure what the avenues to improve are as I'm lazy to look up the Suns cap situation, but if they can get in FA what Payne gave them last season they'll be pretty damn good.
Hopefully they can trade Ayton for that player, and use these other cheaper C options that they found throughout the year to fill in for him (McGee, Biyombo... I guess they traded the young center already).
Ill News wrote:hauntedcomputer wrote:I thought the Suns were the most well-rounded team in the NBA this year.
There's a reason I am not a highly paid and dashingly handsome executive.
That said, all the pieces look good to me. Something's just not fitting. Honestly I thought Javale should've played a lot more early on, he could've smoked those beanpoles Kleber and Powell. And really, they just happened to look terrible in the most important game of the season. The Mavs were just on fire--they weren't even moving the ball. It was all Brunson, Dinwiddie, and Luka creating their own shots. The offense looked awkward but I'm putting it more in the category of an off night and not a baseline. I would run it back and try to toughen up, giving Paul more rest.
I mean, you're not wrong in that they were the most well-rounded team in the NBA. Their offensive and defensive rating were really high, they have a Point God at the helm, and they won a lot of clutch games.
The problem with them is that even at their best, they simply don't have that one player who's a freak or nightmare matchup for their position. I'm talking about a LeBron, Giannis, Steph, KD, or Luka. Booker's a special player, but he's a tier below the cream of the crop in the league; CP3 is old and always injured when it matters. They also didn't really have anything special as a team, like Boston's defense this year or the Warriors' offensive wizardry at their peak. They were just really, really good, but they were beatable. Their identity was they would just out-execute you to death, but a great defense or a transcendent talent can overcome that. Just look at what happened in the Finals last year. Giannis just **** wrecked them.
So yeah, they still project as a solid team, but this was their chance I think. Even if they still end up the #1 seed next year, no one will believe they could actually win the title anymore for the reasons I stated above.
PrinceAli wrote:srhcan wrote:Need a big wing who is good both offensively and defensively. Trade Ayton for OG
No thanks
ruffian253 wrote:This smackdown was exactly what the suns needed as they have become extremely annoying this postseason with Books constant headsnap and foul baiting as opposed to just trying to score, Crowder flopping/ fake tough guy attitude, Paynes celebrations, and crazy talks of Bridges being on the verge of all star status, this beat down will hopefully bring them down a notch.
I mean we all know what you get with CP3's flopping and antics, but he has enough clout to get away with it whereas these young/other guys haven done crap in the league. This is team so weird as they do have likeable people with Javale and Monty, but I just don't know how Monty can condone these antics with him being such a standup coach.
Magic#1 wrote:We have won two playoff games in two years. If we decide to keep this team for the next two years, maybe it will feel like we won a series.
R-DAWG wrote:life_saver wrote:I have a question for Suns fans...do you think Bridges has been good enough player in playoffs to justify his 4 yr $90M contract? I don't watch him as often as you guys do but from what I have seen of him in playoffs, I find him underwhelming. Offensively he just seems really easy to stop, can't create own shot and his 3 pt shot also doesn't look consistent
The good role player making $18MM per year has almost turned into a bad value contract, even if it's market value for an above average starter.
Ice Man wrote:Watching Phoenix this year I always had a sense of "2015 Atlanta" -- another ensemble team that was lacking a superstar. (CP3 these days is only sometimes so, and Booker isn't remotely so, any more than Al Horford ever was.) But then again, the '04 Pistons won a title in similar fashion, and the 2013/14 Spurs were like that too, with Duncan past his prime and Kawhi not yet arrived, so I figured, well there are different ways to win.
But last night their lack of a superstar to take hold of the game, and at least provide some sort of leadership, came back to bite them. Probably would have lost anyway becuase Luke, Brunson, and Dinwiddie were unconsicous, but still, the problem was there, for all to see.
zshawn10 wrote:Big J wrote:I just don’t see how they win a title with CP3 on the team. I’d try to trade him for an expiring if possible and retool.
Who’s going to want him with that contract and that age besides some dumb team thinking he’s the missing piece for them?
garrick wrote:Synciere wrote:GoranTragic wrote:
I **** hate Sarver for many reasons but this team is not worth the tax.
I don’t understand the people who are saying this team isn’t worth the tax or they shouldn’t max Ayton. This is a change most teams don’t get for decades at a time. Literally. Worst case scenario, they go out in the second round but are competitive year round and the fan base has something to root for. Best case scenario, championship. They are still legit contenders.
There are some irrational Suns fans who believe that if the Suns don't win the championship we should blow up the team which is an overraction.
This team spent close to a decade in the lottery winning 19 games a year so you don't want to throw it all away again just to try to make some drastic moves. It's still a solid team but they need to make some adjustments to this roster in the offseason as the moves made were pretty much to counter the Bucks but they didn't really envision going up against an iso heavy team like the Mavs.
Memories wrote:This is the kind of loss where the franchise needs to blow everything up to rid away that stink. Or else they will end up as a treadmill for the next several years.
You don’t come back from this loss by running it back. That’s a franchise killing loss if I’ve ever seen one.
garrick wrote:Regardless of what happened in game 7 the Suns will need to resign Ayton as cheap as possible because they aren't going to be able to get a young athletic center like him and he's a big reason for the Suns success.
Archerbro wrote:I think this was their year, and they just ran into an all timer in Luka.
I would run it back, but sometimes teams run it back and dont realize it's over. similarly. dallas in 08 did the same thing and needed a trade for kidd and lost in the first round with largely the same core.
Id absolute be worried that the team is still so reliant on a 37 year old and that he continually looks like the best player when you're paying max money to booker.