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Post#421 » by Scoonie » Mon May 16, 2022 2:34 pm

Disregard the preceding post:

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/33924856/the-biggest-storylines-watch-upcoming-nba-draft-combine

A record 120 players will gather at Wintrust Arena in Chicago for the NBA draft combine and G League Elite camp this week.

Chicago will also play host to 17 agency-run pro days, as well as the NBA draft lottery on Tuesday (8 p.m. ET, ESPN), marking one of the most important weeks on the NBA calendar.

For the first time in memory, the NBA has been able to secure full attendance from all of the top prospects currently projected to be drafted, including Chet Holmgren, Jabari Smith and Paolo Banchero, as well as several international players.

Only four draftable players declined invites to Chicago: Yannick Nzosa, whose season ended Sunday in Spain; Kris Murray, who appears to be headed back to Iowa for his junior year; USC's Isaiah Mobley, whose agency typically has its own draft strategy outside of the combine; and Michigan's Caleb Houstan, who some NBA teams speculate already has a promise in the first round.
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Post#423 » by Hal14 » Mon May 16, 2022 10:16 pm

Jared Rhoden from Seton Hall worked out for us recently. And it sounds like he had a really good showing today at the g league elite camp.

Could be a darkhorse for our 2nd round pick - or possibly and UDFA..

https://www.nj.com/setonhall/2022/05/seton-halls-jared-rhoden-impresses-at-nba-g-league-camp-living-out-dream-of-pursuing-pro-career.html
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Post#424 » by Hal14 » Tue May 17, 2022 1:03 am

Possibly the next bradley beal:

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I doubt he falls to 53, but if he's still there you gotta consider taking him..
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Post#425 » by winsomme2 » Tue May 17, 2022 1:26 pm

Hal14 wrote:Possibly the next bradley beal:

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I doubt he falls to 53, but if he's still there you gotta consider taking him..


yeah this guy is on too many people's radar at this point.

He fits that loved big scoring PG role that is so popular right now...SGA, Dejounte Murray, etc...

Someone will definitely take him early first round IMO
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Post#426 » by winsomme2 » Tue May 17, 2022 1:31 pm

a player that I like better than Ryan Rollins, fits the same role, and actually might still be available is Andrew Nembhard.

This guy is gonna be an NBA player for sure IMO. Probably right away depending on the team he goes to. He does too many things well and is physically ready.
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Post#427 » by Curmudgeon » Tue May 17, 2022 3:37 pm

Lot's of international bigs out there: Nzosa, Vukavic, Hukporti, Diop, Badji, Maker, Kamagate,

There also Roko Prkacin, who had a bad year but who is still only 20 years old.
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Post#428 » by 165bows » Tue May 17, 2022 3:51 pm

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Post#429 » by Kalela » Tue May 17, 2022 4:00 pm

Hal14 wrote:Possibly the next bradley beal:
I doubt he falls to 53, but if he's still there you gotta consider taking him..


At this point, he may even go first round.
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Post#430 » by Hal14 » Tue May 17, 2022 4:02 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Lot's of international bigs out there: Nzosa, Vukavic, Hukporti, Diop, Badji, Maker, Kamagate,

There also Roko Prkacin, who had a bad year but who is still only 20 years old.

Prkacin, Vukcevic and Hukporti chose to not declare for this year's draft.
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Post#431 » by 165bows » Tue May 17, 2022 4:03 pm

Hal14 wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Lot's of international bigs out there: Nzosa, Vukavic, Hukporti, Diop, Badji, Maker, Kamagate,

There also Roko Prkacin, who had a bad year but who is still only 20 years old.

Prkacin, Vukcevic and Hukporti chose to not declare for this year's draft.

Sounds like the internationals all suck this year.
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Post#432 » by snowman » Tue May 17, 2022 4:10 pm

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Post#433 » by Hal14 » Tue May 17, 2022 4:12 pm

winsomme2 wrote:a player that I like better than Ryan Rollins, fits the same role, and actually might still be available is Andrew Nembhard.

This guy is gonna be an NBA player for sure IMO. Probably right away depending on the team he goes to. He does too many things well and is physically ready.

I don't really see them as fitting the same role. Rollins is a pure SG, with potential to act as a secondary ball handler, running some PnR - potentially the next Bradley Beal. Nembhard is a pure PG. I see him potentially being a solid career backup PG with potential to maybe even end up being a starting PG if things break right.
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Post#434 » by Curmudgeon » Tue May 17, 2022 6:30 pm

My issue with most of the guys discussed in this thread is that, when I go watch some film, no one strikes me as being better than Malik Fitts, Juwan Morgan or Brodric Thomas, all of who have proven that they can play in the NBA or at least excel in the g league.

So I'm looking for the next Juhan Begarin who can be stashed, not a 22 year-old who had a very good but not spectacular college career, which is what many late second round picks are.
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Post#435 » by 165bows » Tue May 17, 2022 10:16 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:My issue with most of the guys discussed in this thread is that, when I go watch some film, no one strikes me as being better than Malik Fitts, Juwan Morgan or Brodric Thomas, all of who have proven that they can play in the NBA or at least excel in the g league.

So I'm looking for the next Juhan Begarin who can be stashed, not a 22 year-old who had a very good but not spectacular college career, which is what many late second round picks are.

Only prob is this draft might suck for internationals:

https://deanondraft.com/2022/05/15/2022-draft-international-men-of-misery/

I think they might trade it (might be easier to make trades this summer with the pick still in the future).
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Post#436 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Tue May 17, 2022 11:21 pm

165bows wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:My issue with most of the guys discussed in this thread is that, when I go watch some film, no one strikes me as being better than Malik Fitts, Juwan Morgan or Brodric Thomas, all of who have proven that they can play in the NBA or at least excel in the g league.

So I'm looking for the next Juhan Begarin who can be stashed, not a 22 year-old who had a very good but not spectacular college career, which is what many late second round picks are.

Only prob is this draft might suck for internationals:

https://deanondraft.com/2022/05/15/2022-draft-international-men-of-misery/

I think they might trade it (might be easier to make trades this summer with the pick still in the future).

I don't think they'll trade the pick. It's the part of the draft where picks are traded for cash not future picks and it would be an awful look for a contender to be dumping their only pick for cash.

Concerning that article, the author could probably lose the condescending tone, it's super off puting. He might be right (and I certainly agree that I don't see it with Besson as a NBA prospect) but I don't think you can rely solely on stats analysis and completely ignore context. Like if you watch one game from Paris Basketball you immediately understand why Kamagate has super low assists numbers. It's a poorly coached team where the two starting guards take turn going 1 on 5 basically. Kamagate never touches the ball beyond the occasional hand off or lob (and let me tell you, it's pretty clear it's not CP3 feeding him those lobs). On the rare times where he's been given the ball on the short roll, he's actually flashed some decent vision. To say Kamagate hasn't shown much playmaking in game so that's a concern is a legitimate take. To say well he has low assists in France so he must be dumb and he won't hack it in the NBA is a step too far. A prospect's skillset isn't necessarily equal to what he's allowed to show in game. Especially in pro leagues where they have more immediate pressure for results. With his logic he probably thought that Towns couldn't stretch the floor because he didn't shoot threes in college.

As for his rebounding, Begarin and him (+ Toupane once he joined mid season) were the only guys that guarded on that team so he was constantly out of position because he had to rotate to cover for everybody. So yeah he's not gonna get a ton of defensive boards. 2.4 offensive boards in 27 minutes per game against grown men and not teenage college student suggest he'll be fine there.
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Post#437 » by 165bows » Tue May 17, 2022 11:23 pm

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
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Curmudgeon wrote:My issue with most of the guys discussed in this thread is that, when I go watch some film, no one strikes me as being better than Malik Fitts, Juwan Morgan or Brodric Thomas, all of who have proven that they can play in the NBA or at least excel in the g league.

So I'm looking for the next Juhan Begarin who can be stashed, not a 22 year-old who had a very good but not spectacular college career, which is what many late second round picks are.

Only prob is this draft might suck for internationals:

https://deanondraft.com/2022/05/15/2022-draft-international-men-of-misery/

I think they might trade it (might be easier to make trades this summer with the pick still in the future).

I don't think they'll trade the pick. It's the part of the draft where picks are traded for cash not future picks and it would be an awful look for a contender to be dumping their only pick for cash.

Concerning that article, the author could probably lose the condescending tone, it's super off puting. He might be right (and I certainly agree that I don't see it with Besson as a NBA prospect) but I don't think you can rely solely on stats analysis and completely ignore context. Like if you watch one game from Paris Basketball you immediately understand why Kamagate has super low assists numbers. It's a poorly coached team where the two starting guards take turn going 1 on 5 basically. Kamagate never touches the ball beyond the occasional hand off or lob (and let me tell you, it's pretty clear it's not CP3 feeding him those lobs). On the rare times where he's been given the ball on the short roll, he's actually flashed some decent vision. To say Kamagate hasn't shown much playmaking in game so that's a concern is a legitimate take. To say well he has low assists in France so he must be dumb and he won't hack it in the NBA is a step too far. A prospect's skillset isn't necessarily equal to what he's allowed to show in game. Especially in pro leagues where they have more immediate pressure for results. With his logic he probably thought that Towns couldn't stretch the floor because he didn't shoot threes in college.

As for his rebounding, Begarin and him (+ Toupane once he joined mid season) were the only guys that guarded on that team so he was constantly out of position because he had to rotate to cover for everybody. So yeah he's not gonna get a ton of defensive boards. 2.4 offensive boards in 27 minutes per game against grown men and not teenage college student suggest he'll be fine there.

Well he called Luka as prime front runner for the best prospect of all time so he has a little bit of international success.
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Post#438 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Tue May 17, 2022 11:38 pm

Luka was beyond obvious though. I was telling telling my friends a year prior to the draft that he was going to go number one (guess I was wrong, thanks Phoenix) and I don't know **** about the draft. Like I'm not gonna pretend that I know that that guy is the 25th or 35th best player in a draft class but if you put Luka or Zion in front of me, yeah I know what I'm watching too.
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Post#439 » by 3D Chess » Tue May 17, 2022 11:57 pm

165bows wrote:
Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
165bows wrote:Only prob is this draft might suck for internationals:

https://deanondraft.com/2022/05/15/2022-draft-international-men-of-misery/

I think they might trade it (might be easier to make trades this summer with the pick still in the future).

I don't think they'll trade the pick. It's the part of the draft where picks are traded for cash not future picks and it would be an awful look for a contender to be dumping their only pick for cash.

Concerning that article, the author could probably lose the condescending tone, it's super off puting. He might be right (and I certainly agree that I don't see it with Besson as a NBA prospect) but I don't think you can rely solely on stats analysis and completely ignore context. Like if you watch one game from Paris Basketball you immediately understand why Kamagate has super low assists numbers. It's a poorly coached team where the two starting guards take turn going 1 on 5 basically. Kamagate never touches the ball beyond the occasional hand off or lob (and let me tell you, it's pretty clear it's not CP3 feeding him those lobs). On the rare times where he's been given the ball on the short roll, he's actually flashed some decent vision. To say Kamagate hasn't shown much playmaking in game so that's a concern is a legitimate take. To say well he has low assists in France so he must be dumb and he won't hack it in the NBA is a step too far. A prospect's skillset isn't necessarily equal to what he's allowed to show in game. Especially in pro leagues where they have more immediate pressure for results. With his logic he probably thought that Towns couldn't stretch the floor because he didn't shoot threes in college.

As for his rebounding, Begarin and him (+ Toupane once he joined mid season) were the only guys that guarded on that team so he was constantly out of position because he had to rotate to cover for everybody. So yeah he's not gonna get a ton of defensive boards. 2.4 offensive boards in 27 minutes per game against grown men and not teenage college student suggest he'll be fine there.

Well he called Luka as prime front runner for the best prospect of all time so he has a little bit of international success.

He also said Zaire Smith had GOAT equity one time so yeah...
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Post#440 » by Curmudgeon » Wed May 18, 2022 12:03 am

You can stash an American player too. He just has to agree,
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