2022 NBA Draft Part II

[zimpy27]

Think those results probably help Jabari a bit in the chance to go #1?

Chet is a Magic player though. Long, center, defensive beast.

I see a WCJ//Chet or Isaac/Chet pairing happening.

What about Mo Bamba?

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You take BPA at #1 and I think Magic will think that Chet is BPA

[Big J]

Chet is a Magic player though. Long, center, defensive beast.

I see a WCJ//Chet or Isaac/Chet pairing happening.

What about Mo Bamba?

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You take BPA at #1 and I think Magic will think that Chet is BPA

I guess, there isn't really an overwhelming number 1 in this draft though so going with positional need might be a better idea.

[zimpy27]

What about Mo Bamba?

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You take BPA at #1 and I think Magic will think that Chet is BPA

I guess, there isn't really an overwhelming number 1 in this draft though so going with positional need might be a better idea.

I agree but Orlando don't need a PF or C. They have Isaac, WCJ, Bamba.

I also would much rather Jabari go to OKC and getting good looks off SGA/Giddey rather than the Magic where he probably has to force his offense again like in college

[zimpy27]

My quick mock off the order is this:

Magic - Chet :: Just a tailor-made Magic pick
OKC - Jabari :: OKC take BPA
Rockets - Paolo :: Rockets probably weigh up Sharpe, Ivey, Paolo but ultimately take Paolo
Kings - Sharpe :: Kings go for Sharpe as their SG moving forward
Pistons - Ivey :: Pistons go for another guard next to Cade
Pacers - Sochan :: I think Pacers recognise the defensive potential of Hali/Jackson/Turner and double down
Blazers - Murray :: Blazers go for best PF
Pelicans - Griffin :: Pels go for another 3+D guy
Spurs - Mathurin :: Feels like a Spurs guy
Wiz - Dyson :: Dyson would be a nice fit with Beal
Knicks - Davis :: Defense guard that Thibs will love
OKC - Williams :: OKC smash the draft with Jabari-Williams pairing
Hornets - Duren :: Hornets go for the C
Cavs - Dieng :: Cavs look for shot creation around Garland, Okoro, Mobley, Allen

[Catchall]

My quick mock off the order is this:

Magic - Chet :: Just a tailor-made Magic pick
OKC - Jabari :: OKC take BPA
Rockets - Paolo :: Rockets probably weigh up Sharpe, Ivey, Paolo but ultimately take Paolo
Kings - Sharpe :: Kings go for Sharpe as their SG moving forward
Pistons - Ivey :: Pistons go for another guard next to Cade
Pacers - Sochan :: I think Pacers recognise the defensive potential of Hali/Jackson/Turner and double down
Blazers - Murray :: Blazers go for best PF
Pelicans - Griffin :: Pels go for another 3+D guy
Spurs - Mathurin :: Feels like a Spurs guy
Wiz - Dyson :: Dyson would be a nice fit with Beal
Knicks - Davis :: Defense guard that Thibs will love
OKC - Duren :: OKC smash the draft with Jabari-Durn pairing
Hornets - Williams :: Hornets go for the C
Cavs - Dieng :: Cavs look for shot creation around Garland, Okoro, Mobley, Allen

I could see Keegan Murray being in play as early as #4. Cade has the ball in his hands, and I'm not sure you draft Ivey to play off the ball.

Also, Sochan might go lottery, but I can't imagine he'd go that high. His range should start around 10.

[RookieStar]

Think those results probably help Jabari a bit in the chance to go #1?

I think there'll be a huge push from Suggs to take Chet 1st. I'm not sure it necessarily happens, but it'll be there.

Overall I do think this is just a bad draft for the Magic. You've got a handful of guys that can play that 4 spot, either big (WCJ) or small (Isaac, Wagner), and you sure as hell don't need Ivey. So who do you take? Smith, hoping he's basically a healthy version of Isaac? Paolo, hoping his statistical comparisons to Tatum are for real? Either of those scenarios push WCJ to the 5, which he's been very, VERY vocal about not wanting, so do you take Chet at C?

I feel a little sad for the Kings too. They really, really could have used one of those top 3 guys. Although maybe this pushes them into taking Sharpe and calling it a day, which is what I'd be doing. If he's even available at 4, I could see OKC bucking the trend and taking him depending on workouts.

First off...

WcJ might be vocal about not being a C. However watching our games ypu can see he always guards the C of the other teams. Bamba was always the help defender.

Second,

Franz was always our SF.. he get bullied when we put him at the PF. We even use someone shorter than him in Okeke as the backup PF just so he could stay at the 3 position.

Last,

We go in next season without hoping for JI. If he plays thats great if not, eas expected. Either way we do need another big to pair with wcj in the frontline.

[RookieStar]

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You take BPA at #1 and I think Magic will think that Chet is BPA

I guess, there isn't really an overwhelming number 1 in this draft though so going with positional need might be a better idea.

I agree but Orlando don't need a PF or C. They have Isaac, WCJ, Bamba.

I also would much rather Jabari go to OKC and getting good looks off SGA/Giddey rather than the Magic where he probably has to force his offense again like in college

As we said, we really don't put our hopes in JIs availability next season. Eveb if he is healthy, we sure won't play him 30mins a game right away.

Also, us not extending Mo makes us feel we won't match if someone makes an above average offer for him

[Big J]

Orlando should just go with Paolo. I'm not even high on him, but they need a legit number 1. Chet & Smith feel more like number 2's.

[jman3134]

Paolo should not go top 5 in this draft.

[thelead]

Magic should not overthink this and just go with Jabari.

[RookieStar]

BTW, this is just the draft lottery, may I ask why they are letting the top draft prospects watch it live? Is there an event that they have to do?

[SelfishPlayer]

Jordan, Lebron, Curry, Giannis, Kawhi, and Isiah Thomas have proven over and over again that it is possible to win the championship without an all world big man leading the way. That is even more pronounced today. Perimeter players are the quarterbacks. In the NFL draft if you don't have a quarterback you HAVE to get him. Chet and Jabari aren't quarterbacks, they need them. So Ivey and Mathurin are my top two "quarterbacks." Jabari and Chet are interesting because they already spread the floor so well at a young age and are defensive stand outs. But being quarterback needy outweighs selecting based upon best player available. Chet and Jabari might be BPA at the top of the draft. Banchero got his turnaround jump shot blocked by EJ Liddell and bully ball scored on by Jake LaRavia so I'm not sold on his length. He's definitely not a full time perimeter player.

[zimpy27]

Jordan, Lebron, Curry, Giannis, Kawhi, and Isiah Thomas have proven over and over again that it is possible to win the championship without an all world big man leading the way. That is even more pronounced today. Perimeter players are the quarterbacks. In the NFL draft if you don't have a quarterback you HAVE to get him. Chet and Jabari aren't quarterbacks, they need them. So Ivey and Mathurin are my top two "quarterbacks." Jabari and Chet are interesting because they already spread the floor so well at a young age and are defensive stand outs. But being quarterback needy outweighs selecting based upon best player available. Chet and Jabari might be BPA at the top of the draft. Banchero got his turnaround jump shot blocked by EJ Liddell and bully ball scored on by Jake LaRavia so I'm not sold on his length. He's definitely not a full time perimeter player.

Ivey has huge bust potential if taken in top 2.

[zimpy27]

Magic should not overthink this and just go with Jabari.

I think their default underthink option is Chet. I think you want them to overthink themselves into Jabari.

[thelead]

Magic should not overthink this and just go with Jabari.

I think their default underthink option is Chet. I think you want them to overthink themselves into Jabari.

A matter of opinion. I personally have Jabari slightly ahead of Chet but wouldn't be mad if they go with Chet. Chet's stats are nuts.

[CptCrunch]

The clear choice for Orlando is Paolo (or Chet).

Franz + Paolo is a very nice duo with exceptional passing and vision.

Smith shouldn't be #1.

[SelfishPlayer]

Jordan, Lebron, Curry, Giannis, Kawhi, and Isiah Thomas have proven over and over again that it is possible to win the championship without an all world big man leading the way. That is even more pronounced today. Perimeter players are the quarterbacks. In the NFL draft if you don't have a quarterback you HAVE to get him. Chet and Jabari aren't quarterbacks, they need them. So Ivey and Mathurin are my top two "quarterbacks." Jabari and Chet are interesting because they already spread the floor so well at a young age and are defensive stand outs. But being quarterback needy outweighs selecting based upon best player available. Chet and Jabari might be BPA at the top of the draft. Banchero got his turnaround jump shot blocked by EJ Liddell and bully ball scored on by Jake LaRavia so I'm not sold on his length. He's definitely not a full time perimeter player.

Ivey has huge bust potential. I really don't see him as top 5

I understand your position. I called Kris Dunn and Markelle Fultz being busts during their last season in college. Ivey has the speed and pedigree to absolutely not be a bust. He is Russell Westbrook all over again and perhaps better. He can certainly be worse than a prime Westbrook, but that isn't a bust, Victor Oladipo, De'Aron Fox, etc aren't busts. It's too difficult for a perimeter player as fast as Ivey with his skills and aggression to be a bust.

[zimpy27]

Jordan, Lebron, Curry, Giannis, Kawhi, and Isiah Thomas have proven over and over again that it is possible to win the championship without an all world big man leading the way. That is even more pronounced today. Perimeter players are the quarterbacks. In the NFL draft if you don't have a quarterback you HAVE to get him. Chet and Jabari aren't quarterbacks, they need them. So Ivey and Mathurin are my top two "quarterbacks." Jabari and Chet are interesting because they already spread the floor so well at a young age and are defensive stand outs. But being quarterback needy outweighs selecting based upon best player available. Chet and Jabari might be BPA at the top of the draft. Banchero got his turnaround jump shot blocked by EJ Liddell and bully ball scored on by Jake LaRavia so I'm not sold on his length. He's definitely not a full time perimeter player.

Ivey has huge bust potential. I really don't see him as top 5

I understand your position. I called Kris Dunn and Markelle Fultz being busts during their last season in college. Ivey has the speed and pedigree to absolutely not be a bust. He is Russell Westbrook all over again and perhaps better. He can certainly be worse than a prime Westbrook, but that isn't a bust, Victor Oladipo, De'Aron Fox, etc aren't busts. It's too difficult for a perimeter player as fast as Ivey with his skills and aggression to be a bust.

Westbrook has the GOAT motor and he picked up passing skills while having a dream franchise setup for him to bloom.

Projecting Ivey to have that is just too much of a reach. I agree that he is Westbrook like, certainly more so than Oladipo and Fox. But what is less motor Russ with worse passing skills in the modern NBA? I have too much fear on Ivey to take him top 4 even. If I'm gambling at 4 then I'm taking Sharpe.

[Magicman125]

I feel like Chet’s upside is higher than Jabari’s but am afraid of the bust risk so hope they take Jabari

[The Moose]

I would take Paolo at 1 without much trepidation, he's going to be an offensive star. I think Coach K could have utilised him in a lot more ways than he did