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Re: kyrie finally explains what happened to him in cleveland 

Post#41 » by MotownMadness » Wed May 18, 2022 5:30 am

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Oh, people are mad at Kyrie too, for a variety of reasons. But he's definitely not unfazed or unbothered at all. He basically is detailing how bothered he is lol.

Sure deep down he is but you would fold like a baby if the world criticized you all the time. He takes it and dishes back most the time.


ok :lol: :lol:

Lol stop, you know you couldn't handle it.
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Re: kyrie finally explains what happened to him in cleveland 

Post#42 » by NO-KG-AI » Wed May 18, 2022 5:33 am

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MotownMadness wrote: Sure deep down he is but you would fold like a baby if the world criticized you all the time. He takes it and dishes back most the time.


ok :lol: :lol:

Lol stop, you know you couldn't handle it.


Define handle it. Plenty of stars handle scrutiny. Kyrie goes off the deep end when he gets criticized about the boneheaded things he does and says. I wouldn't get criticized as much as Kyrie in a similar position, because I'm not a flat earthing, anti vaxxing pseudo intellectual who can't take criticism about my basketball skills.

It's like the whole "martyr" thing. I wouldn't be able to handle being a martyr, but I also wouldn't nail myself to a cross and proclaim myself a martyr like Kyrie :lol:

Besides, this isn't about me. You said Kyrie can't be phased, which is untrue couldn't be more false. He's constantly sensitive about the criticism that he walks ass first into because he can't stop saying and doing dumb things. Stay on topic.
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Re: kyrie finally explains what happened to him in cleveland 

Post#43 » by MotownMadness » Wed May 18, 2022 5:37 am

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ok :lol: :lol:

Lol stop, you know you couldn't handle it.


Define handle it. Plenty of stars handle scrutiny. Kyrie goes off the deep end when he gets criticized about the boneheaded things he does and says. I wouldn't get criticized as much as Kyrie in a similar position, because I'm not a flat earthing, anti vaxxing pseudo intellectual who can't take criticism about my basketball skills.

It's like the whole "martyr" thing. I wouldn't be able to handle being a martyr, but I also wouldn't nail myself to a cross and proclaim myself a martyr like Kyrie :lol:

Besides, this isn't about me. You said Kyrie can't be phased, which is untrue couldn't be more false. He's constantly sensitive about the criticism that he walks ass first into because he can't stop saying and doing dumb things. Stay on topic.

Please, most of you dont even have your own thought process on here and just want to fit in trying to kiss the donkeys ass :lol:

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Re: kyrie finally explains what happened to him in cleveland 

Post#44 » by DroseReturnChi » Wed May 18, 2022 6:47 am

hugepatsfan wrote:I think Kyrie is a good guy as a person, just not a good guy to have on your basketball team lol


crazy how sport made him look like satan. esp boston fans and pro vaccine guys. the way he speaks you know hes genuine as a person you will ever meet.
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Re: kyrie finally explains what happened to him in cleveland 

Post#45 » by DeRoma » Wed May 18, 2022 7:36 am

MotownMadness wrote:
NO-KG-AI wrote:
MotownMadness wrote: Lol stop, you know you couldn't handle it.


Define handle it. Plenty of stars handle scrutiny. Kyrie goes off the deep end when he gets criticized about the boneheaded things he does and says. I wouldn't get criticized as much as Kyrie in a similar position, because I'm not a flat earthing, anti vaxxing pseudo intellectual who can't take criticism about my basketball skills.

It's like the whole "martyr" thing. I wouldn't be able to handle being a martyr, but I also wouldn't nail myself to a cross and proclaim myself a martyr like Kyrie :lol:

Besides, this isn't about me. You said Kyrie can't be phased, which is untrue couldn't be more false. He's constantly sensitive about the criticism that he walks ass first into because he can't stop saying and doing dumb things. Stay on topic.

Please, most of you dont even have your own thought process on here and just want to fit in trying to kiss the donkeys ass :lol:

Who gives a damn if he thinks the world is made of ice cream, its not your problem.

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Re: kyrie finally explains what happened to him in cleveland 

Post#46 » by NO-KG-AI » Wed May 18, 2022 7:41 am

Boy, the burners are out tonight :rofl:
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Re: kyrie finally explains what happened to him in cleveland 

Post#47 » by battifole » Wed May 18, 2022 7:59 am

For all of his perceived problems and shortcomings as a player, he is not alone in that regard. Even the best wings in this league have things they will never be great at no matter how much they try (lebron - shooting, durant/kawhi - playmaking, giannis - shooting, luka - defense). Lets not forget, the great lebron james was once viewed as someone who needed to “mature” for the 2007 FIBA americas tournament - so much so that Jerry Colangelo was willing to omit him from the olympic team because they had their guy in Kobe. Nobody is perfect.

Even if he is a flat earther. Who gives AF? I dont always agree with his stance on certain issues, but the lack of tolerance so many have for others who have legitimate reasons for viewing things DIFFERENTLY than they do is disappointing and a bigger reflection on society (earth, the jab, BLM etc) - it is always easy to join the crowd and hate on an easy target or scapegoat. Look at the past two plus years to see how easily manipulated many are.

If he was such a “bad person”, plenty of ex-teammates would have said plenty of character issues by now. In fact, his ex-Celtic teammates LOVE him, this is obvious when he interacts with them post game, and their comments about him when interviewed off the court. That’s all the action I need to see, not what some ignorant judgmental posters think about someone they dont even know personally.
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Re: kyrie finally explains what happened to him in cleveland 

Post#48 » by dautjazz » Wed May 18, 2022 11:00 pm

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hugepatsfan wrote:I think Kyrie is a good guy as a person, just not a good guy to have on your basketball team lol


crazy how sport made him look like satan. esp boston fans and pro vaccine guys. the way he speaks you know hes genuine as a person you will ever meet.
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Re: kyrie finally explains what happened to him in cleveland 

Post#49 » by johanliebert » Wed May 18, 2022 11:41 pm

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Did you just attribute bodily autonomy to bad behaviour? Vaccine fascists haha.
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Post#50 » by bargs4mvp » Wed May 18, 2022 11:56 pm

People act like kyrie owes them something. Gtfo


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Re: kyrie finally explains what happened to him in cleveland 

Post#51 » by SichtingLives » Thu May 19, 2022 12:04 am

When you gotta explain a careers worth of being a weird douchebag. Guy doesn't owe **** to the media and yet here he is manipulating the media to put spin on his image. lol never change bruh
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Re: kyrie finally explains what happened to him in cleveland 

Post#52 » by Edrees » Thu May 19, 2022 12:34 am

haven't seen it yet but i'm not intereted if he doesn't explain his flat earth theories or admit he was a fool for supporting them. Does he get into that?

I know people who've been through much more than Kyrie and they dont think the Earth is flat so it's not an excuse no matter what you've been through
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Re: kyrie finally explains what happened to him in cleveland 

Post#53 » by Prospect Dong » Thu May 19, 2022 12:37 am

Lockdown504090 wrote:
watched it so you dont have to, although its a really interesting story.

TLDR: very minor but obvious speculation included.
Kyrie has always had mental health issues, but basketball hid them from even himself until he reached the top by winning the title and was left to confront his unresolved emotions from loss.

-kyrie mother and grandmother were victims of residential schools. For ppl who dont know, thats the process of abuse of indigenous by putting them in schools ran to assimilate them into white culture. a lot of people were killed and left with traumatic experiences.

- kyrie mom died of drugs as a result of her experiences when he was 4 years old... grandmother passed a year later. This is obviously the formative experience for the behaviour we see now, and probably has a lot to do with his antivax stance in not trusting both drugs or the government.

- basketball with his father was his way of coping. Irving said that the beginning of his "spiritual jorney/awakening" stuff started when the cavaliers won the title. This answers the question as to why this stuff seemed to start so suddenly

-Irving had put his all into basketball and felt unhappy, because there was something missing as a result of using basketball to cope with what hes missing

-he began to isolate himself from his teammates towards the end of 2017, which was reported by the media, and he felt like they would have had a better chance against the warriors even with durant if he wasnt going through his problems.

everything hes doing from the sage, the going home to brooklyn, the vaccine stuff, freaking out when a player called him the n word, his inability to handle the fans at the game, likely perceiving them as more racist than they are ..... it all makes infinitely more sense. him being so clutch in cleveland to not being able to handle big games anymore

I dont excuse some of his bad behavior, because theres tons of players with trauma who arent behaving like him, but i definitely understand that this seems to be him dealing with his mother after not acknowledging how much it hurt him for 20 years.

interviewers did an excellent job of asking the important questions and getting kyrie to coherently explain himself without talking about third eyes, and cosmic beings :lol:


It doesn't seem to be the case that Kyrie's mother was in any way associated with the residential school system - she was given up for adoption directly to the family that raised her:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/kyrie-irvings-roots-in-the-standing-rock-sioux-tribe-and-his-winding-journey-back/2018/08/24/701e7878-a785-11e8-97ce-cc9042272f07_story.html

Does he really say that? That would not be a cool thing to lie about.
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Post#54 » by uberhikari » Thu May 19, 2022 12:53 am

Prospect Dong wrote:
Lockdown504090 wrote:
watched it so you dont have to, although its a really interesting story.

TLDR: very minor but obvious speculation included.
Kyrie has always had mental health issues, but basketball hid them from even himself until he reached the top by winning the title and was left to confront his unresolved emotions from loss.

-kyrie mother and grandmother were victims of residential schools. For ppl who dont know, thats the process of abuse of indigenous by putting them in schools ran to assimilate them into white culture. a lot of people were killed and left with traumatic experiences.

- kyrie mom died of drugs as a result of her experiences when he was 4 years old... grandmother passed a year later. This is obviously the formative experience for the behaviour we see now, and probably has a lot to do with his antivax stance in not trusting both drugs or the government.

- basketball with his father was his way of coping. Irving said that the beginning of his "spiritual jorney/awakening" stuff started when the cavaliers won the title. This answers the question as to why this stuff seemed to start so suddenly

-Irving had put his all into basketball and felt unhappy, because there was something missing as a result of using basketball to cope with what hes missing

-he began to isolate himself from his teammates towards the end of 2017, which was reported by the media, and he felt like they would have had a better chance against the warriors even with durant if he wasnt going through his problems.

everything hes doing from the sage, the going home to brooklyn, the vaccine stuff, freaking out when a player called him the n word, his inability to handle the fans at the game, likely perceiving them as more racist than they are ..... it all makes infinitely more sense. him being so clutch in cleveland to not being able to handle big games anymore

I dont excuse some of his bad behavior, because theres tons of players with trauma who arent behaving like him, but i definitely understand that this seems to be him dealing with his mother after not acknowledging how much it hurt him for 20 years.

interviewers did an excellent job of asking the important questions and getting kyrie to coherently explain himself without talking about third eyes, and cosmic beings :lol:


It doesn't seem to be the case that Kyrie's mother was in any way associated with the residential school system - she was given up for adoption directly to the family that raised her:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/kyrie-irvings-roots-in-the-standing-rock-sioux-tribe-and-his-winding-journey-back/2018/08/24/701e7878-a785-11e8-97ce-cc9042272f07_story.html

Does he really say that? That would not be a cool thing to lie about.


How are you going to tell someone what happened to their own mother? The nerve of some people. :crazy: :crazy: :noway:
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Re: kyrie finally explains what happened to him in cleveland 

Post#55 » by Prospect Dong » Thu May 19, 2022 1:01 am

uberhikari wrote:
Prospect Dong wrote:
Lockdown504090 wrote:
watched it so you dont have to, although its a really interesting story.

TLDR: very minor but obvious speculation included.
Kyrie has always had mental health issues, but basketball hid them from even himself until he reached the top by winning the title and was left to confront his unresolved emotions from loss.

-kyrie mother and grandmother were victims of residential schools. For ppl who dont know, thats the process of abuse of indigenous by putting them in schools ran to assimilate them into white culture. a lot of people were killed and left with traumatic experiences.

- kyrie mom died of drugs as a result of her experiences when he was 4 years old... grandmother passed a year later. This is obviously the formative experience for the behaviour we see now, and probably has a lot to do with his antivax stance in not trusting both drugs or the government.

- basketball with his father was his way of coping. Irving said that the beginning of his "spiritual jorney/awakening" stuff started when the cavaliers won the title. This answers the question as to why this stuff seemed to start so suddenly

-Irving had put his all into basketball and felt unhappy, because there was something missing as a result of using basketball to cope with what hes missing

-he began to isolate himself from his teammates towards the end of 2017, which was reported by the media, and he felt like they would have had a better chance against the warriors even with durant if he wasnt going through his problems.

everything hes doing from the sage, the going home to brooklyn, the vaccine stuff, freaking out when a player called him the n word, his inability to handle the fans at the game, likely perceiving them as more racist than they are ..... it all makes infinitely more sense. him being so clutch in cleveland to not being able to handle big games anymore

I dont excuse some of his bad behavior, because theres tons of players with trauma who arent behaving like him, but i definitely understand that this seems to be him dealing with his mother after not acknowledging how much it hurt him for 20 years.

interviewers did an excellent job of asking the important questions and getting kyrie to coherently explain himself without talking about third eyes, and cosmic beings :lol:


It doesn't seem to be the case that Kyrie's mother was in any way associated with the residential school system - she was given up for adoption directly to the family that raised her:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/kyrie-irvings-roots-in-the-standing-rock-sioux-tribe-and-his-winding-journey-back/2018/08/24/701e7878-a785-11e8-97ce-cc9042272f07_story.html

Does he really say that? That would not be a cool thing to lie about.


How are you going to tell someone what happened to their own mother? The nerve of some people. :crazy: :crazy: :noway:


I mean, maybe if there is a newspaper article explaining what happened to a person's mother, that might be a good source of information about what happened to a person's mother. Maybe even better, if that person's mother died before he could remember.

But I genuinely haven't watched the video - I'm just going off the summary. What it says there doesn't seem to be true, and I don't think it's cool to make stuff up about your mother.
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Post#56 » by MotownMadness » Thu May 19, 2022 2:48 am

Edrees wrote:haven't seen it yet but i'm not intereted if he doesn't explain his flat earth theories or admit he was a fool for supporting them. Does he get into that?

I know people who've been through much more than Kyrie and they dont think the Earth is flat so it's not an excuse no matter what you've been through

Just go on YouTube and look up where he admits he was wrong about that
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Post#57 » by JordansBulls » Thu May 19, 2022 2:55 am

hugepatsfan wrote:I think Kyrie is a good guy as a person, just not a good guy to have on your basketball team lol

At least since covid happened.
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Re: kyrie finally explains what happened to him in cleveland 

Post#58 » by strokerace » Thu May 19, 2022 4:57 am

Sounds like he might have finally hired a real PR guy and is being coached on how to repair his reputation as a total dbag. Blame it on childhood trauma of course.
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Re: kyrie finally explains what happened to him in cleveland 

Post#59 » by Hangtime84 » Thu May 19, 2022 5:01 am

hugepatsfan wrote:I think Kyrie is a good guy as a person, just not a good guy to have on your basketball team lol

pretty much this.

Also, someone you want to long term business with cause he won't show up eventually when needed.
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Re: kyrie finally explains what happened to him in cleveland 

Post#60 » by bargs4mvp » Thu May 19, 2022 2:48 pm

SichtingLives wrote:When you gotta explain a careers worth of being a weird douchebag. Guy doesn't owe **** to the media and yet here he is manipulating the media to put spin on his image. lol never change bruh

Yet here you are worried about what another man does. Pathetic


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