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What is it about this guy that he continues to get the opportunity to be in the rotation, or even in the big leagues at all? He has been a running joke between most of the people I know that follow the team for two years now. Each and every time he starts or comes out of the pen its an automatic, we all look at each other and chalk up the L or at the very least a blown lead and several hits, runs.
Merryweather is night and day a better prospect and pitcher yet was sent down in favour of yet again Stripling, several other pitchers over the last two years also deserve the opportunity for a guy that continues to show he doesn't belong.
If after all this time he continues to still get trotted out there you have to start questioning Montoyo's decision making, he had the same weird fascination last year with Rafael Dolis.
Like does this guy have something on someone, a family member in the organization or what??
Merryweather is night and day a better prospect and pitcher yet was sent down in favour of yet again Stripling, several other pitchers over the last two years also deserve the opportunity for a guy that continues to show he doesn't belong.
If after all this time he continues to still get trotted out there you have to start questioning Montoyo's decision making, he had the same weird fascination last year with Rafael Dolis.
Like does this guy have something on someone, a family member in the organization or what??
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Not sure why you are hating on him. He's performed pretty well as an emergency starter this year. Not sure what more you can expect from a 6th starter on an MLB team.
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bluerap23 wrote:Not sure why you are hating on him. He's performed pretty well as an emergency starter this year. Not sure what more you can expect from a 6th starter on an MLB team.
Yeah, he's a thoroughly adequate swingman. Unfortunately not the same guy he was with the Dodgers (when he was really valuable), but he altered his pitch mix this year and his peripherals look much better as a result...he basically just had one bad outing (which in turn was basically just one bad inning in an outing).
Also, Merryweather isn't a prospect at this point (he's 30), and neither is he capable of filling that role. His fastball is arrow-straight and he lacks command with it, and consequently it gets crushed. I'm in the minority in that I think he could be a major league reliever (if he can throw enough strikes with his slider and significantly reduce his fastball usage) at all.
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Stripling has been good this season. Odd thread.
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Randle McMurphy wrote:Stripling has been good this season. Odd thread.
But he’s a running joke amongst kirkwood’s friends. That has to count for something, right?
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Stripling >>> Kendall Williams. So, good trade and firmly on this roster.
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vaff87 wrote:Randle McMurphy wrote:Stripling has been good this season. Odd thread.
But he’s a running joke amongst kirkwood’s friends. That has to count for something, right?
ERA 4.63 on the season, ERA 4.84 last seven games, great stuff lol
His timing is uncanny for blowing leads and games, in tight games as many have been this season, its a death blow. He has allowed 6 runs in the last three games he has pitched in and only twice this season has he not allowed a run.
This is not the work of a guy you want coming in, in the middle of the game to pitch a scoreless inning or two.
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Schad wrote:bluerap23 wrote:Not sure why you are hating on him. He's performed pretty well as an emergency starter this year. Not sure what more you can expect from a 6th starter on an MLB team.
Yeah, he's a thoroughly adequate swingman. Unfortunately not the same guy he was with the Dodgers (when he was really valuable), but he altered his pitch mix this year and his peripherals look much better as a result...he basically just had one bad outing (which in turn was basically just one bad inning in an outing).
Also, Merryweather isn't a prospect at this point (he's 30), and neither is he capable of filling that role. His fastball is arrow-straight and he lacks command with it, and consequently it gets crushed. I'm in the minority in that I think he could be a major league reliever (if he can throw enough strikes with his slider and significantly reduce his fastball usage) at all.
Are there any examples of guys that throw 100 that were able to develop a changeup? If Merryweather could, that would be interesting.
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kirkwood wrote:vaff87 wrote:Randle McMurphy wrote:Stripling has been good this season. Odd thread.
But he’s a running joke amongst kirkwood’s friends. That has to count for something, right?
ERA 4.63 on the season, ERA 4.84 last seven games, great stuff lol
His timing is uncanny for blowing leads and games, in tight games as many have been this season, its a death blow. He has allowed 6 runs in the last three games he has pitched in and only twice this season has he not allowed a run.
This is not the work of a guy you want coming in, in the middle of the game to pitch a scoreless inning or two.
Not every player on a roster can be an ace.
Look, I don't think that anybody here is saying that If they could have any pitcher in the league as our sixth starter, we'd want it to be Stripling. He's not going to contend for a Cy, or be an irreplaceable figure on any roster.
But he doesn't have to be. As far as sixth men go, he's decent. (Hell, he's currently got the 4th lowest ERA of our six man rotation)
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kirkwood wrote:ERA 4.63 on the season, ERA 4.84 last seven games, great stuff lol
3.42 xERA, 3.34 FIP, 3.58 xFIP this year, mostly as a starter. His one start where he allowed more than 3 runs this year (at CLE) was due almost entirely to bad outfield defense (Teoscar and Lourdes not catching easy fly balls that were in the air for an eternity although there were 30 mph+ winds that day). There is no world where he hasn’t been good this year.
When one of the SPs get hurt again (and they almost certainly will), he’s a valuable piece to have around. He might even be the only arm in the organization outside of our top 5 with the capability of stepping in immediately and being an average major league starter right now. Nate Pearson certainly can’t be relied on in that regard.
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Stripling is another good example of how difficult it can be to parse out a player's value from short-term results. He was very good for four seasons, had one truly awful (short) season in 2020, and one extremely mediocre season in 2021. And now he's the guy he has pre-2020 again. I have no idea what changed, save perhaps the pitch-tipping, but it was also entirely unclear what changed in 2020 and 2021 that drove down his results, either.
Also offers some hope for Berrios. He's getting shelled this year, but there's no clear reason why. Maybe that's his new normal, maybe he reverts to being a solid mid-rotation innings-eater. I dunno. Baseball's weird, man.
Also offers some hope for Berrios. He's getting shelled this year, but there's no clear reason why. Maybe that's his new normal, maybe he reverts to being a solid mid-rotation innings-eater. I dunno. Baseball's weird, man.
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Nearly 25% of the base hits he gave up in 2020 and 2021 left the yard. It's kind of hard to be successful when hits are leaving the ball park at such a high rate. That doesn't completely account for his struggles but it's a huge component.
Berrios is giving up a BABIP of .320 which is significantly higher than his career average as well as a huge increase in homeruns/9 (1.03 last year to 1.65 this year). His K/9 has dropped by nearly 2 as well. A combo of bad luck and missing less bats just about sums up his season.
Berrios is giving up a BABIP of .320 which is significantly higher than his career average as well as a huge increase in homeruns/9 (1.03 last year to 1.65 this year). His K/9 has dropped by nearly 2 as well. A combo of bad luck and missing less bats just about sums up his season.
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mouse wrote:Nearly 25% of the base hits he gave up in 2020 and 2021 left the yard. It's kind of hard to be successful when hits are leaving the ball park at such a high rate. That doesn't completely account for his struggles but it's a huge component.
Absolutely, though the HRs were more of a symptom than the disease. In 2020/2021 he saw a marked increase in both average exit velocity and the percentage of balls that were hard hit, so it wasn't really bad luck that so many left the yard.
He's using his changeup much more this year, which is good because his changeup is a very effective pitch. But using his changeup more doesn't really explain why his four-seamer has gone from giving up 18 HRs a year ago to 3 this season, with a more than 100 point drop in expected slugging percentage.
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Schad wrote:mouse wrote:Nearly 25% of the base hits he gave up in 2020 and 2021 left the yard. It's kind of hard to be successful when hits are leaving the ball park at such a high rate. That doesn't completely account for his struggles but it's a huge component.
Absolutely, though the HRs were more of a symptom than the disease. In 2020/2021 he saw a marked increase in both average exit velocity and the percentage of balls that were hard hit, so it wasn't really bad luck that so many left the yard.
He's using his changeup much more this year, which is good because his changeup is a very effective pitch. But using his changeup more doesn't really explain why his four-seamer has gone from giving up 18 HRs a year ago to 3 this season, with a more than 100 point drop in expected slugging percentage.
Hard to pin point exact reasons. I'm sure his willingness to use his very effective change-up has made his fastball more of a weapon due to less predictable usage of the pitch. Luck definitely plays a factor and you've already mentioned the pitch-tipping.
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kirkwood wrote:What is it about this guy that he continues to get the opportunity to be in the rotation, or even in the big leagues at all? He has been a running joke between most of the people I know that follow the team for two years now. Each and every time he starts or comes out of the pen its an automatic, we all look at each other and chalk up the L or at the very least a blown lead and several hits, runs.
Merryweather is night and day a better prospect and pitcher yet was sent down in favour of yet again Stripling, several other pitchers over the last two years also deserve the opportunity for a guy that continues to show he doesn't belong.
If after all this time he continues to still get trotted out there you have to start questioning Montoyo's decision making, he had the same weird fascination last year with Rafael Dolis.
Like does this guy have something on someone, a family member in the organization or what??
Holy sht! your power of bad takes is not just limited to Raptors