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SirChurros · Post #501 » by **SirChurros** » Wed May 18, 2022 3:49 am

Brewhoopfan wrote:Two guys named Strus and Vincent just combined to hit more 3s than the Bucks did in game 7. How many more "shooters" will the Bucks cycle through before everyone realizes it's a Bud problem?

Just so I’m clear, you’re blaming Bud for our guys shooting like garbage?

Our guys need to hit spot up looks before Bud can reasonably think to start running action for them like Miami does with its shooters.

th87 · Post #502 » by **th87** » Wed May 18, 2022 3:50 am

Brewhoopfan wrote:Two guys named Strus and Vincent just combined to hit more 3s than the Bucks did in game 7. How many more "shooters" will the Bucks cycle through before everyone realizes it's a Bud problem?

Does anyone have season 3p% in transition versus in the half court?

Bucksmaniac · Post #503 » by **Bucksmaniac** » Wed May 18, 2022 3:54 am

Krispy Kreme wrote:
Brewhoopfan wrote:Two guys named Strus and Vincent just combined to hit more 3s than the Bucks did in game 7. How many more "shooters" will the Bucks cycle through before everyone realizes it's a Bud problem?

Just so I’m clear, you’re blaming Bud for our guys shooting like garbage?

Our guys need to hit spot up looks before Bud can reasonably think to start running action for them like Miami does with its shooters.

I agree with this, I can’t really blame Bud for all our shooters mysteriously going cold in the Playoffs, we still get them pretty good looks with the attention Giannis gets. I can blame him for most everything else about the offense/defense.

BUCKnation · Post #504 » by **BUCKnation** » Wed May 18, 2022 3:59 am

Im actually really annoyed by jimmy getting 18 fts. Giannis got more than 12 once.

mattg · Post #505 » by **mattg** » Wed May 18, 2022 4:05 am

Krispy Kreme wrote:
Brewhoopfan wrote:Two guys named Strus and Vincent just combined to hit more 3s than the Bucks did in game 7. How many more "shooters" will the Bucks cycle through before everyone realizes it's a Bud problem?

Just so I’m clear, you’re blaming Bud for our guys shooting like garbage?

Our guys need to hit spot up looks before Bud can reasonably think to start running action for them like Miami does with its shooters.

Part of it is Miami's coaching staff is excellent at development. It's one thing for guys to hit standstill feet already set C+S 3s, but Miami is excellent at developing guy's shot preparation. How they are able to set their feet coming off screens or as they relocate to open space (mini jump stop or quick one, two step with both feet depending on which way the screen is), how they keep balance and square their shoulders to the rim pre-catch.

rilamann · Post #506 » by **rilamann** » Wed May 18, 2022 4:09 am

rilamann wrote:Carter was a big part of our win in game 1.

Carter's defense and ability to press Boston bringing the ball up has a lot of value, especially with Boston not having a true PG.It was extremely evident in game 1.

With Carter in the game, Boston would have less time to run their sets which would lead to them getting lesser quality shots, and Carter plays that type of defense that wears you down.

My post before game 5 last week.

:evil:

At least Spo knows what's up.

soboMP3 · Post #507 » by **soboMP3** » Wed May 18, 2022 4:47 am

rilamann wrote:
rilamann wrote:Carter was a big part of our win in game 1.

Carter's defense and ability to press Boston bringing the ball up has a lot of value, especially with Boston not having a true PG.It was extremely evident in game 1.

With Carter in the game, Boston would have less time to run their sets which would lead to them getting lesser quality shots, and Carter plays that type of defense that wears you down.

My post before game 5 last week.

At least Spo knows what's up.

Yep, and surprise - the only game we won singlehandedly.

th87 · Post #508 » by **th87** » Wed May 18, 2022 5:43 am

soboMP3 wrote:
rilamann wrote:
rilamann wrote:Carter was a big part of our win in game 1.

Carter's defense and ability to press Boston bringing the ball up has a lot of value, especially with Boston not having a true PG.It was extremely evident in game 1.

With Carter in the game, Boston would have less time to run their sets which would lead to them getting lesser quality shots, and Carter plays that type of defense that wears you down.

My post before game 5 last week.

At least Spo knows what's up.
Yep, and surprise - the only game we won singlehandedly.

What I truly can't get over is that there is no defensible plausible logic as to why he didn't try this again. Like it's not rational behavior.

Even with MM, you know why he'd run, run, pass with 4 minutes left and a 12 point lead. You disagree, but you know why.

I haven't posted this frequently since Thon's yearbook when it was totally obvious the Bucks were duped. This has a similar unfathomable quality that I can't get over :lol:

Sigra · Post #509 » by **Sigra** » Wed May 18, 2022 5:55 am

looks like Miami year. first Embiid injury and now Smart and Horford. Like some invisible hand open doors for them. Same with us last year.

Dick Tate · Post #510 » by **Dick Tate** » Wed May 18, 2022 6:10 am

Brewhoopfan wrote:Two guys named Strus and Vincent just combined to hit more 3s than the Bucks did in game 7. How many more "shooters" will the Bucks cycle through before everyone realizes it's a Bud problem?

IDK. I'd take two guys named Strus and Vincent though. Is you contention they'd be automatic to shoot as bad or worse than Allen & Hill? Cherry picking any two players who could combine to beat 4/33 as a team is a pretty easy exercise. During game 7 I felt myself pining for Bryn Forbes.

Coach Carter · Post #511 » by **Coach Carter** » Wed May 18, 2022 7:31 am

I still have Boston winning assuming they can get Al and Smart back. Tatum is scary good. Butler had to drop 40 against a tired Boston side.

Matches Malone · Post #512 » by **Matches Malone** » Wed May 18, 2022 12:35 pm

Krispy Kreme wrote:
Brewhoopfan wrote:Two guys named Strus and Vincent just combined to hit more 3s than the Bucks did in game 7. How many more "shooters" will the Bucks cycle through before everyone realizes it's a Bud problem?

Just so I’m clear, you’re blaming Bud for our guys shooting like garbage?

Our guys need to hit spot up looks before Bud can reasonably think to start running action for them like Miami does with its shooters.

I wouldn't say Bud is the reason for shooters missing per say, but there seems to be a correlation between our regular season shooting splits and playoffs. Whenever we have to run more sets in the half-court in the playoffs, the defense just has to play the perimeter and Bud doesn't make any adjustments. It's mostly going to come down to the players executing, but I don't think Bud does anything to help them once the game starts... it's either sink or swim and hope for the best.

Turk Nowitzki · Post #513 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Wed May 18, 2022 12:55 pm

The worst thing about this ECF is that it has reignited my PJ Tucker rage to maximum levels. If he wasn't involved here I could watch this in relative peace. **** our dumb **** owners for getting a title and immediately pivoting to what saves them money.

Ron Swanson · Post #514 » by **Ron Swanson** » Wed May 18, 2022 1:16 pm

Butler eviscerating the Celtics defense by mid-range jumper-ing them to death perfectly illustrates how much we missed Middleton in our series. I mean, it sucks. Could you imagine if at any point last round, Boston was forced to play Pritchard 30 minutes and Theis 20 minutes? Yeah, that series would have been over in 5-6 games even without Khris. Midds was right, timing wasn't on our side this year.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #515 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Wed May 18, 2022 2:00 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Butler eviscerating the Celtics defense by mid-range jumper-ing them to death perfectly illustrates how much we missed Middleton in our series. I mean, it sucks. Could you imagine if at any point last round, Boston was forced to play Pritchard 30 minutes and Theis 20 minutes? Yeah, that series would have been over in 5-6 games even without Khris. Midds was right, timing wasn't on our side this year.

Or looking from the other angle, midds basically would've taken all of Allen's minutes and some Wes minutes.

buckboy · Post #516 » by **buckboy** » Wed May 18, 2022 3:49 pm

MIami>Boston

rilamann · Post #517 » by **rilamann** » Wed May 18, 2022 4:33 pm

Read on Twitter

And some people around here will still insist that PJ Tucker would have had no impact if he was still a Milwaukee Buck.

PJ Tucker being able to return in the 2nd half had a massive impact on the Heat outscoring 39-14 in the 3rd quarter, that was obvious to anyone who was watching the game.

soxperry · Post #518 » by **soxperry** » Wed May 18, 2022 4:40 pm

rilamann wrote:

Read on Twitter

And some people around here will still insist that PJ Tucker would have had no impact if he was still a Milwaukee Buck.

PJ Tucker being able to return in the 2nd half had a massive impact on the Heat outscoring 39-14 in the 3rd quarter, that was obvious to anyone who was watching the game.

while i agree that we should have kept Tucker, let's slow our roll until this series is over before we use numbers from this series to back up that argument. remember how great Wes was doing on Tatum until Tatum woke up and started shooting like Durant? Tatum is fully capable of torching PJ and he probably will soon enough.

rilamann · Post #519 » by **rilamann** » Wed May 18, 2022 4:44 pm

Another big reason for Miami's 39-14 3rd quarter was the fact that Miami put pressure on the ball.

Something many of us were screaming for the Bucks to at least try with Jevon Carter.

JimmyTheKid · Post #520 » by **JimmyTheKid** » Wed May 18, 2022 5:03 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Butler eviscerating the Celtics defense by mid-range jumper-ing them to death perfectly illustrates how much we missed Middleton in our series. I mean, it sucks. Could you imagine if at any point last round, Boston was forced to play Pritchard 30 minutes and Theis 20 minutes? Yeah, that series would have been over in 5-6 games even without Khris. Midds was right, timing wasn't on our side this year.

Yup. Really unfortunate.

And Jimmy Butler is absolutely THAT dude. Still can't believe there was another "side" to the debate we had a few years ago when many of us wanted the Bucks to make a play for him. All dog. Would die for the game of basketball.