Postseason Thread 2022, ECFinals Version 1.0

greg4012 · Post #61 » by **greg4012** » Mon May 16, 2022 7:18 pm

Wild card for the series: Victor Oladipo

Boston's defense is predicated on having sufficient one-on-one defenders along the perimeter to contain paint penetration. If VO can get some weak side passes his way, he can beat his man off the dribble and bend the Celtics defense or finish in the paint. VO being in his bag this series can do a lot to tilt things our way

AirP. · Post #62 » by **AirP.** » Mon May 16, 2022 7:37 pm

Gant wrote:
AirP. wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Heat in 7. This is a very tough matchup, they matchup very well with Jimmy and Bam. Herro as well. If we can hit open 3s we win, if we shoot like we did against the Celtics we’re more than likely cooked.

We have to win 1 road game at minimum this series imo. Game 1 is a must win. They’re fresh off a tough 7 game series and they’re beat up. Take advantage.

Of course Lowry is doubtful and we’re going to be at like 80%. We can just never be healthy.

I don't get people who pick Boston in 7 with them on the road, it makes way more sense to pick Boston in 6 and expect one of the road victories to happen in the first 3 road games, not the final one, I've never understood the logic in picking the road team to win the last game when both teams have won 3 each already. Unless there's a critical injury, I just don't understand that type of thinking. I understand the road team can win like it happened last night with Dallas but that doesn't make a lot of sense.

You might be right and normally this would be good logic, but Boston is 4-1 on the road in these playoffs. So who knows?

It'll be a very physical series.

Miami is currently 6-0 at home in the playoffs, so even if I think Miami could lose 1 of 4 games at home, I'm not so sure a game 7 is the one they're going to lose. Miami relies a lot on inexperienced and young players (Strus, Vincent, Herro) so I'd expect those types of players should do better at home.

My point is.. if teams are that close, both teams win 3 each of the first 6 games, unless the away team has a lot of momentum the home team should be the one picked. I'm not talking specifically this series but most series overall. Ah, here's a stat before yesterday's 2 games...

Home teams win Game 7 of a best-of-seven series 76.8% of the time (109-33)

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2022/05/15/suns-vs-mavericks-what-you-need-know-game-7/9781265002/

So, with the 2 games yesterday you're now looking at home teams being 110-34 which is 76.3% of the time.

Post #63 » by **Wiltside** » Mon May 16, 2022 9:49 pm

Phuckin Saltdicks

Marcus Smart gonna grind my gears so hard.

3ballbomber · Post #64 » by **3ballbomber** » Tue May 17, 2022 12:12 am

TroubleS0me wrote:damn this is gonna be a tough series
Celtics have every position covered

We have home court
but what other advantages do we have over them?

RexBoyWonder · Post #65 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Tue May 17, 2022 6:40 am

Protect home court.

That's all we need to do.

Win the home game, by whatever it takes.

3ballbomber · Post #66 » by **3ballbomber** » Tue May 17, 2022 7:39 am

I wouldn't worry about who's younger, I'd worry about who's going to be playing w/ more urgency, purpose, determination & hunger. The one thing that rivals youth is experience & veteran savvy. The latter is far more powerful. Furthermore Jimmy, after all, is still in his prime.

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Jimmy isn't everything for us. We have several qualities that BK & Bucks don't possess. People are also underestimating the vast gap in coaching experience this series. Udoka prior to C's has been an asst coach for just 3 seasons. He's heading into this series going to war w/a seasoned strategist & battle tested mind in Spoelstra.

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AirP. · Post #67 » by **AirP.** » Tue May 17, 2022 12:27 pm

WTF? Their actually pushing hate to get fans to root?

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Post #68 » by **DayofMourning** » Tue May 17, 2022 12:30 pm

AirP. wrote:WTF? Their actually pushing hate to get fans to root?

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Pretty awful article. Was a waste of time to even read it. Is Tomase in high school? 9th grade?

AirP. · Post #69 » by **AirP.** » Tue May 17, 2022 4:44 pm

It'll be interesting to see what happens the rest of the playoffs. No matter what happens, I expect this current Miami Heat rotation to be the weakest one for the next 2-3 years because there were a lot of question marks on a number of key players, with those questions answered Miami's FO can have a much clearer vision of what they have and what they need to strengthen the roster and it just happens that Miami has a somewhat sizable contract (Robinson's) that will help them money wise to construct a package deal to upgrade the rotation.

Shewasfly · Post #70 » by **Shewasfly** » Tue May 17, 2022 5:32 pm

Is Lowry going to play?

Am I the only one kind of hoping he doesn’t?

I know we will need him in this series but he just hasn’t looked right at all. Just been a butterball with no impact on the game. I hope that changes, but for now, especially this game one, I’d like to see us go with what has actually been working.

IceColdCubano · Post #71 » by **IceColdCubano** » Wed May 18, 2022 12:19 am

Lets go fam.....lets get it.....take advantage.....I don't care who their missing just freaking win, you can only play what is in front of you and suiting up.....

twix2500 · Post #72 » by **twix2500** » Wed May 18, 2022 9:23 am

Jimmy might average 30 pts 8 ast, 6 rbs and 3 stls when this playoffs are over

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marson · Post #73 » by **marson** » Wed May 18, 2022 9:31 am

twix2500 wrote:Jimmy might average 30 pts 8 ast, 6 rbs and 3 stls when this playoffs are over

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LeBron-esque in terms of impact and stat wise. Game 1 reminds me of our big 3 playoff home games of old.

Kinda crazy since Jimmy is 32 already. Guys who do this are usually in their 27-30 age.

Guys at age 32 who lead their team to a championship:

Michael Jordan (Age 32) 1996 Season w/ Bulls
Dirk Nowitzki (Age 32) 2011 Season w/ Mavs
LeBron James (Age 32) 2016 Season w/ Cavs

RexBoyWonder · Post #74 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Wed May 18, 2022 10:00 am

marson wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Jimmy might average 30 pts 8 ast, 6 rbs and 3 stls when this playoffs are over

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LeBron-esque in terms of impact and stat wise. Game 1 reminds me of our big 3 playoff home games of old.

Kinda crazy since Jimmy is 32 already. Guys who do this are usually in their 27-30 age.

Guys at age 32 who lead their team to a championship:

Michael Jordan (Age 32) 1996 Season w/ Bulls
Dirk Nowitzki (Age 32) 2011 Season w/ Mavs
LeBron James (Age 32) 2016 Season w/ Cavs

While Jimmy is playing at an historic high level, I think the key for us to win the ship is to see Herro/Bam step up their offensive output and let Jimmy save some energy for the money time moments.

Playing at this level for 3 straight series isn't sustainable for any human, the others need to step up.

AirP. · Post #75 » by **AirP.** » Wed May 18, 2022 1:23 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts · Post #76 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Wed May 18, 2022 1:57 pm

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wade44 · Post #77 » by **wade44** » Wed May 18, 2022 2:14 pm

Starting to think that Lowry needs to come off the bench going forward. Spo is going to have to man up and make the decision. Doesn’t mean Lowry can’t play a lot of minutes or in big moments. Just means that the starting lineup has clicked a lot better without him in it

Shewasfly · Post #78 » by **Shewasfly** » Wed May 18, 2022 3:11 pm

Pharenheit wrote:Starting to think that Lowry needs to come off the bench going forward. Spo is going to have to man up and make the decision. Doesn’t mean Lowry can’t play a lot of minutes or in big moments. Just means that the starting lineup has clicked a lot better without him in it

I really like this bc it would also solve a lot of the other concerns some of us have about Herro having to do too much playmaking and thinking about how to set others up. Rather than just being able to focus on scoring and setting up his teammates as a product of that and the attention he draws, instead of the other way around with him having to think playmake first.

AirP. · Post #79 » by **AirP.** » Wed May 18, 2022 3:13 pm

Pharenheit wrote:Starting to think that Lowry needs to come off the bench going forward. Spo is going to have to man up and make the decision. Doesn’t mean Lowry can’t play a lot of minutes or in big moments. Just means that the starting lineup has clicked a lot better without him in it

Vincent "CAN" have good games, he had a good game but he's not consistent so don't think this is his norm.

People keep forgetting that most vets have been scouted and schemed for in their careers way more then younger players so the vets already know and have worked on their counters.

There will be a 1 or 2 ramp up game for Lowry to knock a bit of the rust off when he gets back, but if he's healthy he absolutely should come back which will allow Vincent to be an option off the bench, more tools off the bench gives Spoelstra more options on how to make adjustments.

Also, Lowry does give Miami another vet defender who can get calls, he may make 3s and he will look to get easy fast break buckets and if he's not on, you can go a different direction.

The issue with Lowry is his health, he tried to come back early and "gut" his way through since his game doesn't rely on speed and quickness but he hurt the team, I suspect Miami will wait till they feel he's completely ready because they need him as close to 100% as they can get.

AirP. · Post #80 » by **AirP.** » Wed May 18, 2022 3:15 pm

Shewasfly wrote:
Pharenheit wrote:Starting to think that Lowry needs to come off the bench going forward. Spo is going to have to man up and make the decision. Doesn’t mean Lowry can’t play a lot of minutes or in big moments. Just means that the starting lineup has clicked a lot better without him in it

I really like this bc it would also solve a lot of the other concerns some of us have about Herro having to do too much playmaking and thinking about how to set others up. Rather than just being able to focus on scoring and setting up his teammates as a product of that and the attention he draws, instead of the other way around with him having to think playmake first.

Just take the ball out of Herro's hands. Vincent and Oladipo can be out there but currently Oladipo looks for his shot too much for a guy who hasn't played that many games in the last few years but he does seem to try to play a role that's needed vs what he wants to do. It's got to be frustrating to be used to being a #1 option who is coming off multiple years out and feels like his old self but is just rusty.