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2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pic: Poll added

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If Bulls keep the pick, who should they select?

Jalen Williams
7
11%
Tari Eason
18
29%
Nikola Jovic
4
6%
Mark Williams
18
29%
Ochai Agbaji
1
2%
TyTy Washington
0
No votes
Ousmane Dieng
0
No votes
Malaki Branham
2
3%
EJ Liddell
8
13%
Jeremy Sochan
4
6%
 
Total votes: 62

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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#481 » by WindyCityBorn » Wed May 18, 2022 3:59 am

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:My guess is that a month into the season, picking anyone other than Chet at #1 will already sound silly.


I see people saying he has slow feet. Poor defender in space like Vuc.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#482 » by Rose2Boozer » Wed May 18, 2022 6:24 am

Sorry Mo Bamba, you gotta come out of that #5 jersey

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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#483 » by The Box Office » Wed May 18, 2022 12:00 pm

Chet Holmgren has the highest odds to go number one. Orlando Magic always pick a center/big power forward, who can play defense, with their number one pick. The Magic will coach him up and he'll eventually leave for the LA Lakers.

Seriously though, Chet Holmgren has a great jump shot and fundamentals. He's also a defensive dynamite. The kid can easily play power forward. Chet Holmgren/Mo Bamba front court is looking sweet.

I can see Jabari Smith going number one as well. He's pretty good; fundamentally sound on defense. Has a sweet jump shot.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#484 » by holv03 » Wed May 18, 2022 12:32 pm

The Box Office wrote:Chet Holmgren has the highest odds to go number one. Orlando Magic always pick a center/big power forward, who can play defense, with their number one pick. The Magic will coach him up and he'll eventually leave for the LA Lakers.

Seriously though, Chet Holmgren has a great jump shot and fundamentals. He's also a defensive dynamite. The kid can easily play power forward. Chet Holmgren/Mo Bamba front court is looking sweet.

I can see Jabari Smith going number one as well. He's pretty good; fundamentally sound on defense. Has a sweet jump shot.



I don't see the Magic keeping Mo Bamba if they end up with Chet Holmgren, Banchero or Smith. I think that the Magic are going to keep Wendell Carter and get rid of Bamba.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#485 » by DuckIII » Wed May 18, 2022 12:47 pm

Little Nathan wrote: What do we have to do to make Tari Eason fall all the way to 18?


What’s Jeff Gillooly up to these days?

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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#486 » by DuckIII » Wed May 18, 2022 12:51 pm

meekrab wrote:This mock has Duren going 30th, although the blurb about him basically makes him sounds perfect for the Bulls, whereas the player they have the Bulls drafting is basically a Pat Williams clone.

If you're in the market for a rim-running center who can protect the rim and handle pick-and-roll defense, Duren checks the boxes. Offensively, he needs substantial development from a skill standpoint. But his physical tools will make him an effective rebounder and defender in the NBA even if the offense remains underwhelming.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2022-nba-mock-draft-dukes-paolo-banchero-goes-no-1-with-iowas-keegan-murray-a-surprising-no-3-pick/

mlitney01 wrote:Not worthy of #18, but I'd love to take a chance on LaRavia. Not athletic or long, but has a great stroke and gets to the line. Great motor. Maybe if we make a trade and end up with a pick near the end of the 1st round.

Any chance we buy a 2nd rounder? Or would we just have to forfeit it since it would become our first available? I don't know if the league has already taken our 2024 or whatever it is.


That looks like one of those mocks that intentionally includes some silly predictions in order to generate discussion. But who knows?

And Liddell is not a Pat Williams clone. He’s short for a 4, like Williams, but that’s pretty much the end of it. I’m not in favor of drafting him, but I wrote earlier in this thread he’s a guy I feel like I might be missing on. Guy produces at a very high level and he’s a competitor. I just worry about his physical profile translating and, in particular, making sense for the Bulls.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#487 » by DuckIII » Wed May 18, 2022 12:59 pm

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:My guess is that a month into the season, picking anyone other than Chet at #1 will already sound silly.


I know people are concerned about his frame and I understand it. But no one in this draft is even in a discussion with him for upside. And his offensive upside is becoming underrated as well.

I think I’d take him #1 over all because he’s the only guy in the draft that jumps out to me as having clear franchise player upside. But I’d be extremely nervous about doing it. As Lisa Simpson would say, he’s like a riddle wrapped in an enigma wrapped in a vest. I’m assuming the vest part.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#488 » by DuckIII » Wed May 18, 2022 1:01 pm

WindyCityBorn wrote:
AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:My guess is that a month into the season, picking anyone other than Chet at #1 will already sound silly.


I see people saying he has slow feet. Poor defender in space like Vuc.


The “people” saying that just proved you don’t need to listen to them.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#489 » by TheSuzerain » Wed May 18, 2022 1:18 pm

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TheSuzerain wrote:Does Kenneth Lofton have sneaky upside if he loses 80 pounds or something.

I want to believe.


If someone has to lose 80 lbs that’s a pass.

Would be more of a 2nd round flier to be sure.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#490 » by ThisGuyFawkes » Wed May 18, 2022 1:20 pm

holv03 wrote:
The Box Office wrote:Chet Holmgren has the highest odds to go number one. Orlando Magic always pick a center/big power forward, who can play defense, with their number one pick. The Magic will coach him up and he'll eventually leave for the LA Lakers.

Seriously though, Chet Holmgren has a great jump shot and fundamentals. He's also a defensive dynamite. The kid can easily play power forward. Chet Holmgren/Mo Bamba front court is looking sweet.

I can see Jabari Smith going number one as well. He's pretty good; fundamentally sound on defense. Has a sweet jump shot.



I don't see the Magic keeping Mo Bamba if they end up with Chet Holmgren, Banchero or Smith. I think that the Magic are going to keep Wendell Carter and get rid of Bamba.


It could be great news for us if Bamba is available for cheap. Bamba and Liddell gives us some valuable front court depth, rim protection, and some more shooting.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#491 » by gobullschi » Wed May 18, 2022 2:58 pm

What about Mukur Maker? He’s taking an unusual route preparing for the draft, opting out of playing his 2nd year in college and instead working with former NBA guard Darren Collison and a team of trainers.

From a skill-set perspective, you don’t find many 7-footers that can move, handle, or shoot like he can. He probably would be a reach at #18, but if the Bulls could buy or trade for a 2nd, he could be an interesting project to mold behind Vucevic.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#492 » by The Box Office » Wed May 18, 2022 3:58 pm

Little Nathan wrote:Not going to have the time to do extensive draft prep this year, but after watching some tape and reading some reports I really like our position. What do we have to do to make Tari Eason fall all the way to 18?


We cannot do anything. We're one of the few posters here who are really high on Atari. I still have this kid as number two on my Top 10. AKME should consider packaging our 18th pick + Coby White for him. I did more scouting on Atari:

- Does killer crossovers and behind the back dribble through traffic on the regular.
- Has a burning desire to learn to facilitate so he's capable to be a point forward. It just will not happen immediately.
- Competitive
- High IQ on the court
- Massive hands; palms the ball
- Modified his jump shot to get better (that takes endless hours of work) and it's paying off. 80% Free Throw shooter.
- Not only is he advanced on defense, but he's also extremely versatile since he can guard positions 1-4
- Natural scorer who scores out of triple threat
- He's agile with his hips. He changes angles with his hips quickly when he's on defense. That's a GREAT thing for a 6-8 kid.
- He's catching lobs and doing windmills so he's athletic.

The reasons that I see why he's not considered top 10:
- Emerged from lousy LSU program (however, Tari got really good and strengthened his weaknesses coming out of this lousy LSU program which says a lot about Tari)
- Can't go left
- Quick foul machine
- Commits a lot of turnovers

Tari Eason is not a Patrick Williams clone. They're different people with different styles. Tari is a mean player who can go iso with his handles doing killer crossovers, between the legs, behind the back. I'd love to see Tari Eason + Patrick Williams duo in Chicago.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#493 » by drosestruts » Wed May 18, 2022 4:32 pm

Not a big college basketball guy so a lot of my interest comes from reading scouting reports on guys around the time of the draft. With that said, two players I like on paper who I think could be available when we pick are:


Ochai Agbaji - sounds like a solid 3&d player with some good athleticism. You can never have too few of these players

Christian Barun - another 3&d guy - read multiple call outs about his energy and ability to be disruptive on the defensive end both on and off ball.

I know we ideally are looking for a big man - but none in our range are really standing out to me. These two guys though, sounds exactly like the type of guys you see on every winning team (jae crowder, Dorian Finney-Smith, max strus, etc.) Energy players with good defense who can hit 3's.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#494 » by Michael Jackson » Wed May 18, 2022 5:25 pm

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If there at 18 man he is a monster. That is some rim protection.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#495 » by Michael Jackson » Wed May 18, 2022 5:26 pm

holv03 wrote:
The Box Office wrote:Chet Holmgren has the highest odds to go number one. Orlando Magic always pick a center/big power forward, who can play defense, with their number one pick. The Magic will coach him up and he'll eventually leave for the LA Lakers.

Seriously though, Chet Holmgren has a great jump shot and fundamentals. He's also a defensive dynamite. The kid can easily play power forward. Chet Holmgren/Mo Bamba front court is looking sweet.

I can see Jabari Smith going number one as well. He's pretty good; fundamentally sound on defense. Has a sweet jump shot.



I don't see the Magic keeping Mo Bamba if they end up with Chet Holmgren, Banchero or Smith. I think that the Magic are going to keep Wendell Carter and get rid of Bamba.



100% and I don't think that they actually keep Bamba even if they don't go that route honestly.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#496 » by ATRAIN53 » Wed May 18, 2022 5:43 pm

Holmgren is going to get abused in the NBA.

He's a stick, guys will push him around and he's gonna commit all kinds of stupid reach in fouls.
The pressure to be great with being a high pick will also crush him.

The NBA is full of MEN trying to make $$$, this guy is maybe the next Shawn Bradley IF he can stay healthy - and Bradley was a barely an average NBA player.

I think his own teammate Drew Timme played better and with more urgency and passion than Holmgren in the tourney.
I'd take a look at Timmie as a g-leaguer if he goes undrafted. has some size and can shoot.


Banchero looks like an NBA body. Listed at 250. He was always in the mix and never seemed to shy from the big moments during the tourney. Hit some big shots. He's going top have good fundementals from the Duke program, he already has a decent shot. I can see him being a 15+ PPG guy after a year of learning to be a pro. 3/4 years if he works at it, I can see all star potential. Might even have a chip to prove he should have been the top pick.

I'd watch him during the combines and if he's dominating there, he'd be my #1 pick.

The rest of that crop is a crap shoot if you ask me.
I like that Sochan from Baylor, kid has some Euro Ball experience.

If Jaden Hardy was bigger, we do need more shooting....

Shadeon Sharpe is an enigmna I'd like to see...

I still like Johnny Juzang too.


Ron Harper Jr could be fun. If you' haven't noticed that players with NBA bloodlines do turn into decent pros.
You can't dog it at this level when you dad was an NBA pro. You don't get this far if you do. Ask Marcus Jordan.
Harpers kid is a 4 yr Senior Ivy Leaguer no one is paying any attention too.
Like when no one drafted Gary Payton Jr.

Scottie Pippen Jr is out there too, but he's short like Bronny Jr.

Will be some great podcasts leading up to this draft, lots to argue about.
Can't wait to hear from Jonathan Givony and what he thinks.....
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#497 » by sco » Wed May 18, 2022 6:40 pm

Michael Jackson wrote:
holv03 wrote:
The Box Office wrote:Chet Holmgren has the highest odds to go number one. Orlando Magic always pick a center/big power forward, who can play defense, with their number one pick. The Magic will coach him up and he'll eventually leave for the LA Lakers.

Seriously though, Chet Holmgren has a great jump shot and fundamentals. He's also a defensive dynamite. The kid can easily play power forward. Chet Holmgren/Mo Bamba front court is looking sweet.

I can see Jabari Smith going number one as well. He's pretty good; fundamentally sound on defense. Has a sweet jump shot.



I don't see the Magic keeping Mo Bamba if they end up with Chet Holmgren, Banchero or Smith. I think that the Magic are going to keep Wendell Carter and get rid of Bamba.



100% and I don't think that they actually keep Bamba even if they don't go that route honestly.

White + Marko for S&T Bamba?
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#498 » by DuckIII » Wed May 18, 2022 7:47 pm

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If there at 18 man he is a monster. That is some rim protection.


Wow. That almost seems like it can’t be right.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#499 » by DuckIII » Wed May 18, 2022 7:50 pm

sco wrote:
Michael Jackson wrote:
holv03 wrote:

I don't see the Magic keeping Mo Bamba if they end up with Chet Holmgren, Banchero or Smith. I think that the Magic are going to keep Wendell Carter and get rid of Bamba.



100% and I don't think that they actually keep Bamba even if they don't go that route honestly.

White + Marko for S&T Bamba?


I would love to get Mo. But Mo had a good season and is a center who can shoot 3s on volume and block shots. He’s going to have more trade value than that even with the circumstances working against Orlando’s leverage.
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2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#500 » by Andi Obst » Wed May 18, 2022 7:53 pm

DuckIII wrote:
Michael Jackson wrote:
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If there at 18 man he is a monster. That is some rim protection.


Wow. That almost seems like it can’t be right.


The body fat part is definitely not right. I don’t what they do to measure it at the combine, but I’m pretty sure it’s extremely close to just writing down their favorite numbers.

But yeah, the other numbers are obviously more important and they’re insane as well.

Edit: Just saw they have someone listed at 2.7% body fat at the combine. I’m sorry, NBA officials making that number up, but that person would not be with us right now.

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