Who do you want us to take at #1?

[shadrock]

https://www.si.com/college/2022/02/23/jabari-smith-auburn-basketball-nba-daily-cover

Brilliant article on Jabari. This guy is one of a kind, we simply must draft him.

[pepe1991]

Smith wasn't just player who hardly shot anything at rim... He was also awful at scoring around rim. He shot 52% around basket.
For comparison sake, we were here roasting Oladipo in rookie and sophmore year with " miss layup" joystick picture and Oladipo shot 57% around rim. In nba.

His isolation numbers suggest 0,9 points per possession. If you are into that stuff, Paolo is your guy.



In general Jabari Smith has ability to make tough shots. But also doesn't provide much of a passing, rebounding, blocking or pretty much anything. He is semi-iso- mid range- 3 point line scorer who lacks versitality on offense but when he is hot he looks unguardable. But how he looks when shots don't go in? And last game he played at college would suggest he will pretty much sink you.
There is something to be said about 6'9 -6'10 wing who has 6'7 player on him and ends up shooting 1-11 against him in elimination game. He didn't react on double teams at all, he was stripped multiple times and he was just bodied 1 on 1 despite 4 inches adventage.


Jabari's game won't become anything special until and if his ballhandlig doesn't fix itself. If it doesn't than you are looking at Harrison Barnes/ Lauri Markannen offensive player. Guys who are stand-still above average shooters standing at 6'8 / 6'10 , who are plus shooters for their size, but who lack creativity in scoring to be anything more than 4th , 5th options on elite teams.


At the end of a day, Jabari Smith feels like perfect player.... For a team that has elite scoring center and needs streach 4 who won't clog their paint and who has almost zero desire to play like big.
Magic , Pistons, OKC , Houston don't have that player. His best fit is probably Kings, but he won't fall that far.


On defense... People say he is lockdown defender. I don't see it. I see player who's only job on defense was not to get crushed and direct his man toward Kessler. If you have guy who is best shotblocker in last 20 years at college i find it impossible to value your defense to just not get waxed on first step.

As for athletic . 6/10. There is nothing special about him there. Maybe in empty arena he can get toward some 34 inch vertical but in game it's invisible. His mobilty is good enough to not get wracked on defense, on offense he shot so poorly around rim that it's not hard to not connect lack of ability to make shots with lack of burst & pop ability. Being 6'10 and shooting 52% around rim is just dreadful. Maybe it's just poor ballhandling that glues him to a floor? I don't know.


Again, Jabari Smith is lottery prospect. He is guy you would LOVE to add to your roster... If he is 8th pick and you have Sabonis or Nurkic or Zion .
But he is one of most fundamentally flawed players when it comes conversation for 1st overall pick in long time.


Where with Chet, guy scored 3 points more, on 4 shots less, on 12% TS higher. And did just about everything else significantly better.

Bet on Jabari Smith is bet on masterful development to expend his game. Teams who draft top 3 probably don't have masterful development program, othervise they wouldn't be bottom of nba.

[DiplomaticMagic]

Watch on YouTube

This was the most intel I've heard about who we might be selecting

At 6:40, Jonathan Givony says he's betting the coaching staff of Orlando wants Jabari, and the front office is split. He says he was with the Magic for Jabari's best game and they were very excited about him. He has Jabari mocked to Orlando for now but thinks its 60/40

[bigdogdylan5]

Im kinda jaded... with our history of #1 picks and taking Bigs, i know whoever we pick is gonna be our star player and lead us to the finals again. With the inevitable conclusion that he will run to LA the first chance he gets.

With that being said, which of these dudes would most likely prefer us over the brightlights of hollywood? Lets pick him so we can have a #1 pick that stays with us for more than 10yrs and maybe finally have his jersey retired

I get the feeling the most likely guy is to want to be a part of team long term is Chet. From the upper north west obviously the connection with Suggs. I mean we gotta win but just feels like he is in that Giannis and Dirk mode of and has that relentless competitiveness

[j_n]

Smith wasn't just player who hardly shot anything at rim... He was also awful at scoring around rim. He shot 52% around basket.
For comparison sake, we were here roasting Oladipo in rookie and sophmore year with " miss layup" joystick picture and Oladipo shot 57% around rim. In nba.

His isolation numbers suggest 0,9 points per possession. If you are into that stuff, Paolo is your guy.



In general Jabari Smith has ability to make tough shots. But also doesn't provide much of a passing, rebounding, blocking or pretty much anything. He is semi-iso- mid range- 3 point line scorer who lacks versitality on offense but when he is hot he looks unguardable. But how he looks when shots don't go in? And last game he played at college would suggest he will pretty much sink you.
There is something to be said about 6'9 -6'10 wing who has 6'7 player on him and ends up shooting 1-11 against him in elimination game. He didn't react on double teams at all, he was stripped multiple times and he was just bodied 1 on 1 despite 4 inches adventage.


Jabari's game won't become anything special until and if his ballhandlig doesn't fix itself. If it doesn't than you are looking at Harrison Barnes/ Lauri Markannen offensive player. Guys who are stand-still above average shooters standing at 6'8 / 6'10 , who are plus shooters for their size, but who lack creativity in scoring to be anything more than 4th , 5th options on elite teams.


At the end of a day, Jabari Smith feels like perfect player.... For a team that has elite scoring center and needs streach 4 who won't clog their paint and who has almost zero desire to play like big.
Magic , Pistons, OKC , Houston don't have that player. His best fit is probably Kings, but he won't fall that far.


On defense... People say he is lockdown defender. I don't see it. I see player who's only job on defense was not to get crushed and direct his man toward Kessler. If you have guy who is best shotblocker in last 20 years at college i find it impossible to value your defense to just not get waxed on first step.

As for athletic . 6/10. There is nothing special about him there. Maybe in empty arena he can get toward some 34 inch vertical but in game it's invisible. His mobilty is good enough to not get wracked on defense, on offense he shot so poorly around rim that it's not hard to not connect lack of ability to make shots with lack of burst & pop ability. Being 6'10 and shooting 52% around rim is just dreadful. Maybe it's just poor ballhandling that glues him to a floor? I don't know.


Again, Jabari Smith is lottery prospect. He is guy you would LOVE to add to your roster... If he is 8th pick and you have Sabonis or Nurkic or Zion .
But he is one of most fundamentally flawed players when it comes conversation for 1st overall pick in long time.


Where with Chet, guy scored 3 points more, on 4 shots less, on 12% TS higher. And did just about everything else significantly better.

Bet on Jabari Smith is bet on masterful development to expend his game. Teams who draft top 3 probably don't have masterful development program, othervise they wouldn't be bottom of nba.

I'm not concerned about Jabari's scoring at the rim nearly as much as I'm concerned about potential injuries with Chet.

Jabari seems like a can't miss prospect, his floor is probably borderline all star who could very likely become the best player in the draft.

And the point about Orlando being a bottom 3 team so we have to take a chance doesn't make much sense considering the injuries, lack of veterans and obvious tank, I think this team is currently in a fantastic situation going forward so there is no reason to take a big risk.

[RookieStar]

Im kinda jaded... with our history of #1 picks and taking Bigs, i know whoever we pick is gonna be our star player and lead us to the finals again. With the inevitable conclusion that he will run to LA the first chance he gets.

With that being said, which of these dudes would most likely prefer us over the brightlights of hollywood? Lets pick him so we can have a #1 pick that stays with us for more than 10yrs and maybe finally have his jersey retired

I get the feeling the most likely guy is to want to be a part of team long term is Chet. From the upper north west obviously the connection with Suggs. I mean we gotta win but just feels like he is in that Giannis and Dirk mode of and has that relentless competitiveness

Yeah i get that as well. Chet doesnt seem like the guy that eants to star in movies like our top Cs before. However it is too early to tell. Lol

[basketballRob]

Smith wasn't just player who hardly shot anything at rim... He was also awful at scoring around rim. He shot 52% around basket.
For comparison sake, we were here roasting Oladipo in rookie and sophmore year with " miss layup" joystick picture and Oladipo shot 57% around rim. In nba.

His isolation numbers suggest 0,9 points per possession. If you are into that stuff, Paolo is your guy.



In general Jabari Smith has ability to make tough shots. But also doesn't provide much of a passing, rebounding, blocking or pretty much anything. He is semi-iso- mid range- 3 point line scorer who lacks versitality on offense but when he is hot he looks unguardable. But how he looks when shots don't go in? And last game he played at college would suggest he will pretty much sink you.
There is something to be said about 6'9 -6'10 wing who has 6'7 player on him and ends up shooting 1-11 against him in elimination game. He didn't react on double teams at all, he was stripped multiple times and he was just bodied 1 on 1 despite 4 inches adventage.


Jabari's game won't become anything special until and if his ballhandlig doesn't fix itself. If it doesn't than you are looking at Harrison Barnes/ Lauri Markannen offensive player. Guys who are stand-still above average shooters standing at 6'8 / 6'10 , who are plus shooters for their size, but who lack creativity in scoring to be anything more than 4th , 5th options on elite teams.


At the end of a day, Jabari Smith feels like perfect player.... For a team that has elite scoring center and needs streach 4 who won't clog their paint and who has almost zero desire to play like big.
Magic , Pistons, OKC , Houston don't have that player. His best fit is probably Kings, but he won't fall that far.


On defense... People say he is lockdown defender. I don't see it. I see player who's only job on defense was not to get crushed and direct his man toward Kessler. If you have guy who is best shotblocker in last 20 years at college i find it impossible to value your defense to just not get waxed on first step.

As for athletic . 6/10. There is nothing special about him there. Maybe in empty arena he can get toward some 34 inch vertical but in game it's invisible. His mobilty is good enough to not get wracked on defense, on offense he shot so poorly around rim that it's not hard to not connect lack of ability to make shots with lack of burst & pop ability. Being 6'10 and shooting 52% around rim is just dreadful. Maybe it's just poor ballhandling that glues him to a floor? I don't know.


Again, Jabari Smith is lottery prospect. He is guy you would LOVE to add to your roster... If he is 8th pick and you have Sabonis or Nurkic or Zion .
But he is one of most fundamentally flawed players when it comes conversation for 1st overall pick in long time.


Where with Chet, guy scored 3 points more, on 4 shots less, on 12% TS higher. And did just about everything else significantly better.

Bet on Jabari Smith is bet on masterful development to expend his game. Teams who draft top 3 probably don't have masterful development program, othervise they wouldn't be bottom of nba.

I'm not concerned about Jabari's scoring at the rim nearly as much as I'm concerned about potential injuries with Chet.

Jabari seems like a can't miss prospect, his floor is probably borderline all star who could very likely become the best player in the draft.

And the point about Orlando being a bottom 3 team so we have to take a chance doesn't make much sense considering the injuries, lack of veterans and obvious tank, I think this team is currently in a fantastic situation going forward so there is no reason to take a big risk.

Jabari is 77.8% at the rim. He needs to get better from around 5' and I think he will. He needs a couple go to moves in that range, like a jump hook and a turnaround jumper.

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[pepe1991]

Smith wasn't just player who hardly shot anything at rim... He was also awful at scoring around rim. He shot 52% around basket.
For comparison sake, we were here roasting Oladipo in rookie and sophmore year with " miss layup" joystick picture and Oladipo shot 57% around rim. In nba.

His isolation numbers suggest 0,9 points per possession. If you are into that stuff, Paolo is your guy.



In general Jabari Smith has ability to make tough shots. But also doesn't provide much of a passing, rebounding, blocking or pretty much anything. He is semi-iso- mid range- 3 point line scorer who lacks versitality on offense but when he is hot he looks unguardable. But how he looks when shots don't go in? And last game he played at college would suggest he will pretty much sink you.
There is something to be said about 6'9 -6'10 wing who has 6'7 player on him and ends up shooting 1-11 against him in elimination game. He didn't react on double teams at all, he was stripped multiple times and he was just bodied 1 on 1 despite 4 inches adventage.


Jabari's game won't become anything special until and if his ballhandlig doesn't fix itself. If it doesn't than you are looking at Harrison Barnes/ Lauri Markannen offensive player. Guys who are stand-still above average shooters standing at 6'8 / 6'10 , who are plus shooters for their size, but who lack creativity in scoring to be anything more than 4th , 5th options on elite teams.


At the end of a day, Jabari Smith feels like perfect player.... For a team that has elite scoring center and needs streach 4 who won't clog their paint and who has almost zero desire to play like big.
Magic , Pistons, OKC , Houston don't have that player. His best fit is probably Kings, but he won't fall that far.


On defense... People say he is lockdown defender. I don't see it. I see player who's only job on defense was not to get crushed and direct his man toward Kessler. If you have guy who is best shotblocker in last 20 years at college i find it impossible to value your defense to just not get waxed on first step.

As for athletic . 6/10. There is nothing special about him there. Maybe in empty arena he can get toward some 34 inch vertical but in game it's invisible. His mobilty is good enough to not get wracked on defense, on offense he shot so poorly around rim that it's not hard to not connect lack of ability to make shots with lack of burst & pop ability. Being 6'10 and shooting 52% around rim is just dreadful. Maybe it's just poor ballhandling that glues him to a floor? I don't know.


Again, Jabari Smith is lottery prospect. He is guy you would LOVE to add to your roster... If he is 8th pick and you have Sabonis or Nurkic or Zion .
But he is one of most fundamentally flawed players when it comes conversation for 1st overall pick in long time.


Where with Chet, guy scored 3 points more, on 4 shots less, on 12% TS higher. And did just about everything else significantly better.

Bet on Jabari Smith is bet on masterful development to expend his game. Teams who draft top 3 probably don't have masterful development program, othervise they wouldn't be bottom of nba.

I'm not concerned about Jabari's scoring at the rim nearly as much as I'm concerned about potential injuries with Chet.

Jabari seems like a can't miss prospect, his floor is probably borderline all star who could very likely become the best player in the draft.

And the point about Orlando being a bottom 3 team so we have to take a chance doesn't make much sense considering the injuries, lack of veterans and obvious tank, I think this team is currently in a fantastic situation going forward so there is no reason to take a big risk.

I think he's floor is Lauri Markannen with bit better defense, his ceiling is probably Rashard meets Jaren Jackson Jr.

Non of those scenario yell -1st overall pick to me.

[drsd]

I think Jabari Smith is our best option. He reminds me of a Robert Horry ..Glen Rice level talent. Maybe a year of development to be there. I think he is great insurance if JI goes down. His body is nearly NBA ready.

Chet is a very skilled player. He reminds me of maybe Dirk Nowitzki or a Chris Bosh. Unfortunately his body is no where near nba ready. It would be a few years before he would be able to bang inside and defend the post. Id be concerned about injuries during that time. I think thats why JI has had it so bad. Both immensely talented..but can they stay on the court long enough to contribute.

We have a great team and we showed some flashes of it last year. Some great outside shooting and the ability to defend the 4 is what we need. Smith gets us there in a year. Chet maybe 4.. my two cents..

One can dream!

[bigdogdylan5]

Im kinda jaded... with our history of #1 picks and taking Bigs, i know whoever we pick is gonna be our star player and lead us to the finals again. With the inevitable conclusion that he will run to LA the first chance he gets.

With that being said, which of these dudes would most likely prefer us over the brightlights of hollywood? Lets pick him so we can have a #1 pick that stays with us for more than 10yrs and maybe finally have his jersey retired

I get the feeling the most likely guy is to want to be a part of team long term is Chet. From the upper north west obviously the connection with Suggs. I mean we gotta win but just feels like he is in that Giannis and Dirk mode of and has that relentless competitiveness

Yeah i get that as well. Chet doesnt seem like the guy that eants to star in movies like our top Cs before. However it is too early to tell. Lol

With that being said I believe Jabari is in that same mold. Seems like a relentless gym rat worker. Only one I am worried about is Banchero. Going to Duke he might be the guy not content being in Orlando

[drsd]

https://www.si.com/college/2022/02/23/jabari-smith-auburn-basketball-nba-daily-cover

Brilliant article on Jabari. This guy is one of a kind, we simply must draft him.

The SI-article's image shows why his Jumper is unguardable!

Not only does he have perfect form and a very high release, add his height and length, and this is money.

[j_n]

Smith wasn't just player who hardly shot anything at rim... He was also awful at scoring around rim. He shot 52% around basket.
For comparison sake, we were here roasting Oladipo in rookie and sophmore year with " miss layup" joystick picture and Oladipo shot 57% around rim. In nba.

His isolation numbers suggest 0,9 points per possession. If you are into that stuff, Paolo is your guy.



In general Jabari Smith has ability to make tough shots. But also doesn't provide much of a passing, rebounding, blocking or pretty much anything. He is semi-iso- mid range- 3 point line scorer who lacks versitality on offense but when he is hot he looks unguardable. But how he looks when shots don't go in? And last game he played at college would suggest he will pretty much sink you.
There is something to be said about 6'9 -6'10 wing who has 6'7 player on him and ends up shooting 1-11 against him in elimination game. He didn't react on double teams at all, he was stripped multiple times and he was just bodied 1 on 1 despite 4 inches adventage.


Jabari's game won't become anything special until and if his ballhandlig doesn't fix itself. If it doesn't than you are looking at Harrison Barnes/ Lauri Markannen offensive player. Guys who are stand-still above average shooters standing at 6'8 / 6'10 , who are plus shooters for their size, but who lack creativity in scoring to be anything more than 4th , 5th options on elite teams.


At the end of a day, Jabari Smith feels like perfect player.... For a team that has elite scoring center and needs streach 4 who won't clog their paint and who has almost zero desire to play like big.
Magic , Pistons, OKC , Houston don't have that player. His best fit is probably Kings, but he won't fall that far.


On defense... People say he is lockdown defender. I don't see it. I see player who's only job on defense was not to get crushed and direct his man toward Kessler. If you have guy who is best shotblocker in last 20 years at college i find it impossible to value your defense to just not get waxed on first step.

As for athletic . 6/10. There is nothing special about him there. Maybe in empty arena he can get toward some 34 inch vertical but in game it's invisible. His mobilty is good enough to not get wracked on defense, on offense he shot so poorly around rim that it's not hard to not connect lack of ability to make shots with lack of burst & pop ability. Being 6'10 and shooting 52% around rim is just dreadful. Maybe it's just poor ballhandling that glues him to a floor? I don't know.


Again, Jabari Smith is lottery prospect. He is guy you would LOVE to add to your roster... If he is 8th pick and you have Sabonis or Nurkic or Zion .
But he is one of most fundamentally flawed players when it comes conversation for 1st overall pick in long time.


Where with Chet, guy scored 3 points more, on 4 shots less, on 12% TS higher. And did just about everything else significantly better.

Bet on Jabari Smith is bet on masterful development to expend his game. Teams who draft top 3 probably don't have masterful development program, othervise they wouldn't be bottom of nba.

I'm not concerned about Jabari's scoring at the rim nearly as much as I'm concerned about potential injuries with Chet.

Jabari seems like a can't miss prospect, his floor is probably borderline all star who could very likely become the best player in the draft.

And the point about Orlando being a bottom 3 team so we have to take a chance doesn't make much sense considering the injuries, lack of veterans and obvious tank, I think this team is currently in a fantastic situation going forward so there is no reason to take a big risk.

I think he's floor is Lauri Markannen with bit better defense, his ceiling is probably Rashard meets Jaren Jackson Jr.

Non of those scenario yell -1st overall pick to me.

Agree to disagree on the floor /ceiling.
No such thing as 1st overall pick level prospect, someone has to go first and every draft is different so it's all subjective.

If its not him it's either Chet, Banchero or Ivey, on most drafts non of those guys go first but someone has to, and Jabari seems like the safest bet to at least become an all star player.

[j_n]

Smith wasn't just player who hardly shot anything at rim... He was also awful at scoring around rim. He shot 52% around basket.
For comparison sake, we were here roasting Oladipo in rookie and sophmore year with " miss layup" joystick picture and Oladipo shot 57% around rim. In nba.

His isolation numbers suggest 0,9 points per possession. If you are into that stuff, Paolo is your guy.



In general Jabari Smith has ability to make tough shots. But also doesn't provide much of a passing, rebounding, blocking or pretty much anything. He is semi-iso- mid range- 3 point line scorer who lacks versitality on offense but when he is hot he looks unguardable. But how he looks when shots don't go in? And last game he played at college would suggest he will pretty much sink you.
There is something to be said about 6'9 -6'10 wing who has 6'7 player on him and ends up shooting 1-11 against him in elimination game. He didn't react on double teams at all, he was stripped multiple times and he was just bodied 1 on 1 despite 4 inches adventage.


Jabari's game won't become anything special until and if his ballhandlig doesn't fix itself. If it doesn't than you are looking at Harrison Barnes/ Lauri Markannen offensive player. Guys who are stand-still above average shooters standing at 6'8 / 6'10 , who are plus shooters for their size, but who lack creativity in scoring to be anything more than 4th , 5th options on elite teams.


At the end of a day, Jabari Smith feels like perfect player.... For a team that has elite scoring center and needs streach 4 who won't clog their paint and who has almost zero desire to play like big.
Magic , Pistons, OKC , Houston don't have that player. His best fit is probably Kings, but he won't fall that far.


On defense... People say he is lockdown defender. I don't see it. I see player who's only job on defense was not to get crushed and direct his man toward Kessler. If you have guy who is best shotblocker in last 20 years at college i find it impossible to value your defense to just not get waxed on first step.

As for athletic . 6/10. There is nothing special about him there. Maybe in empty arena he can get toward some 34 inch vertical but in game it's invisible. His mobilty is good enough to not get wracked on defense, on offense he shot so poorly around rim that it's not hard to not connect lack of ability to make shots with lack of burst & pop ability. Being 6'10 and shooting 52% around rim is just dreadful. Maybe it's just poor ballhandling that glues him to a floor? I don't know.


Again, Jabari Smith is lottery prospect. He is guy you would LOVE to add to your roster... If he is 8th pick and you have Sabonis or Nurkic or Zion .
But he is one of most fundamentally flawed players when it comes conversation for 1st overall pick in long time.


Where with Chet, guy scored 3 points more, on 4 shots less, on 12% TS higher. And did just about everything else significantly better.

Bet on Jabari Smith is bet on masterful development to expend his game. Teams who draft top 3 probably don't have masterful development program, othervise they wouldn't be bottom of nba.

I'm not concerned about Jabari's scoring at the rim nearly as much as I'm concerned about potential injuries with Chet.

Jabari seems like a can't miss prospect, his floor is probably borderline all star who could very likely become the best player in the draft.

And the point about Orlando being a bottom 3 team so we have to take a chance doesn't make much sense considering the injuries, lack of veterans and obvious tank, I think this team is currently in a fantastic situation going forward so there is no reason to take a big risk.

I think he's floor is Lauri Markannen with bit better defense, his ceiling is probably Rashard meets Jaren Jackson Jr.

Non of those scenario yell -1st overall pick to me.

Agree to disagree on the floor /ceiling.
No such thing as 1st overall pick level prospect, someone has to go first and every draft is different so it's all subjective.

If its not him it's either Chet, Banchero or Ivey, on most drafts non of those guys go first but someone has to, and Jabari seems like the safest bet to at least become an all star player.

[basketballRob]

Good evaluation of Jabari.

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[j_n]

Smith wasn't just player who hardly shot anything at rim... He was also awful at scoring around rim. He shot 52% around basket.
For comparison sake, we were here roasting Oladipo in rookie and sophmore year with " miss layup" joystick picture and Oladipo shot 57% around rim. In nba.

His isolation numbers suggest 0,9 points per possession. If you are into that stuff, Paolo is your guy.



In general Jabari Smith has ability to make tough shots. But also doesn't provide much of a passing, rebounding, blocking or pretty much anything. He is semi-iso- mid range- 3 point line scorer who lacks versitality on offense but when he is hot he looks unguardable. But how he looks when shots don't go in? And last game he played at college would suggest he will pretty much sink you.
There is something to be said about 6'9 -6'10 wing who has 6'7 player on him and ends up shooting 1-11 against him in elimination game. He didn't react on double teams at all, he was stripped multiple times and he was just bodied 1 on 1 despite 4 inches adventage.


Jabari's game won't become anything special until and if his ballhandlig doesn't fix itself. If it doesn't than you are looking at Harrison Barnes/ Lauri Markannen offensive player. Guys who are stand-still above average shooters standing at 6'8 / 6'10 , who are plus shooters for their size, but who lack creativity in scoring to be anything more than 4th , 5th options on elite teams.


At the end of a day, Jabari Smith feels like perfect player.... For a team that has elite scoring center and needs streach 4 who won't clog their paint and who has almost zero desire to play like big.
Magic , Pistons, OKC , Houston don't have that player. His best fit is probably Kings, but he won't fall that far.


On defense... People say he is lockdown defender. I don't see it. I see player who's only job on defense was not to get crushed and direct his man toward Kessler. If you have guy who is best shotblocker in last 20 years at college i find it impossible to value your defense to just not get waxed on first step.

As for athletic . 6/10. There is nothing special about him there. Maybe in empty arena he can get toward some 34 inch vertical but in game it's invisible. His mobilty is good enough to not get wracked on defense, on offense he shot so poorly around rim that it's not hard to not connect lack of ability to make shots with lack of burst & pop ability. Being 6'10 and shooting 52% around rim is just dreadful. Maybe it's just poor ballhandling that glues him to a floor? I don't know.


Again, Jabari Smith is lottery prospect. He is guy you would LOVE to add to your roster... If he is 8th pick and you have Sabonis or Nurkic or Zion .
But he is one of most fundamentally flawed players when it comes conversation for 1st overall pick in long time.


Where with Chet, guy scored 3 points more, on 4 shots less, on 12% TS higher. And did just about everything else significantly better.

Bet on Jabari Smith is bet on masterful development to expend his game. Teams who draft top 3 probably don't have masterful development program, othervise they wouldn't be bottom of nba.

I'm not concerned about Jabari's scoring at the rim nearly as much as I'm concerned about potential injuries with Chet.

Jabari seems like a can't miss prospect, his floor is probably borderline all star who could very likely become the best player in the draft.

And the point about Orlando being a bottom 3 team so we have to take a chance doesn't make much sense considering the injuries, lack of veterans and obvious tank, I think this team is currently in a fantastic situation going forward so there is no reason to take a big risk.

I think he's floor is Lauri Markannen with bit better defense, his ceiling is probably Rashard meets Jaren Jackson Jr.

Non of those scenario yell -1st overall pick to me.

Agree to disagree on the floor /ceiling.
No such thing as 1st overall pick level prospect, someone has to go first and every draft is different so it's all subjective.

If its not him it's either Chet, Banchero or Ivey, on most drafts non of those guys go first but someone has to, and Jabari seems like the safest bet to at least become an all star player.

[drsd]

https://www.si.com/college/2022/02/23/jabari-smith-auburn-basketball-nba-daily-cover

Brilliant article on Jabari. This guy is one of a kind, we simply must draft him.

Mr. Weltman has stated the Magic would draft a high-character player. Smith is that guy. He is founded his emotional well-being from a very strong and supportive family. This story touches on his warmth to/from his father, for example.


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[basketballRob]

I'm not concerned about Jabari's scoring at the rim nearly as much as I'm concerned about potential injuries with Chet.

Jabari seems like a can't miss prospect, his floor is probably borderline all star who could very likely become the best player in the draft.

And the point about Orlando being a bottom 3 team so we have to take a chance doesn't make much sense considering the injuries, lack of veterans and obvious tank, I think this team is currently in a fantastic situation going forward so there is no reason to take a big risk.

I think he's floor is Lauri Markannen with bit better defense, his ceiling is probably Rashard meets Jaren Jackson Jr.

Non of those scenario yell -1st overall pick to me.

Agree to disagree on the floor /ceiling.
No such thing as 1st overall pick level prospect, someone has to go first and every draft is different so it's all subjective.

If its not him it's either Chet, Banchero or Ivey, on most drafts non of those guys go first but someone has to, and Jabari seems like the safest bet to at least become an all star player.

Jabari is nothing like Lauri or Rashard. Neither one of those players are hitting shots at the rate Jabari does with defenders draped on him. He also has all-defensive team potential from day 1.

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[pepe1991]

I think he's floor is Lauri Markannen with bit better defense, his ceiling is probably Rashard meets Jaren Jackson Jr.

Non of those scenario yell -1st overall pick to me.

Agree to disagree on the floor /ceiling.
No such thing as 1st overall pick level prospect, someone has to go first and every draft is different so it's all subjective.

If its not him it's either Chet, Banchero or Ivey, on most drafts non of those guys go first but someone has to, and Jabari seems like the safest bet to at least become an all star player.

Jabari is nothing like Lauri or Rashard. Neither one of those players are hitting shots at the rate Jabari does with defenders draped on him. He also has all-defensive team potential from day 1.

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Sell me on this.
What execlly on offense Jabari Smith provides as 1st overall pick that Michael Porter isn't, while we all know Michael Porter can't be anything more than 3rd option on elite team, playing behing 2 time MVP?

Imo, answer is simply- nothing. He will be plays finisher but also won't make anybody around him better, he won't be setting screens ,he won't be curling off them either. He will spend majority of time on eblow waiting to be called own number to do his jab step mid range OR he will, on set offense spend time in corner waiting for ballswing to take 3.

Those skills are cool. Those skills make him complimentary player, not guy that you want build franchise around.

He is player who is hard -shots maker at college level where competition sucks. It's yet to be seen what happends if he is being chased around some Jeremy Grant with versitality, mobility & lenght to match his own. We know he was shut down by 6'7 wing at college who did nothing special but played glue on him.

[Statlanta]

Give me Jabari, we are going to need wings to go toe to toe with the Celtics for the forseeable future.

[basketballRob]

Agree to disagree on the floor /ceiling.
No such thing as 1st overall pick level prospect, someone has to go first and every draft is different so it's all subjective.

If its not him it's either Chet, Banchero or Ivey, on most drafts non of those guys go first but someone has to, and Jabari seems like the safest bet to at least become an all star player.

Jabari is nothing like Lauri or Rashard. Neither one of those players are hitting shots at the rate Jabari does with defenders draped on him. He also has all-defensive team potential from day 1.

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Sell me on this.
What execlly on offense Jabari Smith provides as 1st overall pick that Michael Porter isn't, while we all know Michael Porter can't be anything more than 3rd option on elite team, playing behing 2 time MVP?

Imo, answer is simply- nothing. He will be plays finisher but also won't make anybody around him better, he won't be setting screens ,he won't be curling off them either. He will spend majority of time on eblow waiting to be called own number to do his jab step mid range OR he will, on set offense spend time in corner waiting for ballswing to take 3.

Those skills are cool. Those skills make him complimentary player, not guy that you want build franchise around.

He is player who is hard -shots maker at college level where competition sucks. It's yet to be seen what happends if he is being chased around some Jeremy Grant with versitality, mobility & lenght to match his own. We know he was shut down by 6'7 wing at college who did nothing special but played glue on him.

The difference between MPJ is Jabari's body type will be able to add muscle. I also think he'll develop his handle. You have to look beyond what he is at 18 and imagine what he'll become.

On defense their aren't many guys his size with the lateral quickness that he has, that will translate from day 1.

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