Who do you want us to take at #1?

[Blue_and_Whte]

Wonder if players are snubbing the Magic again?

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again? what are you referring to?

One of the Magic beat writers said that some of the players canceled their media availability. I thought maybe they were just canceling with the Magic's people.

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That doesn't answer the question. You said again. I didn't hear news about players snubbing the Magic at all within the last two seasons.

[ibraheim718]

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Schmitz is spot on. Chet has that dawg in him. You pair him with Franz and Jalen who are also both uber-competitors and you don't look back. Focus on the future.. and count on their work ethics to develop the necessary skills.

Also, stop looking at Chet like he's a 5.. he's not a 5 he's a wing. On D he'll gravitate towards protecting the bucket naturally but with finesse. He's already at his age a shot blocking savant and not from brute force but from impeccable timing.

He's best comp on offense is a taller KD. You take BPA with #1 and that's Holmgren.

If he can't move around like a wing then he is not a wing.

If you think this then you really didn't watch him play much. On offense he very much moves like a wing. He has the ball handling of a wing. He goes coast to coast often. He can shoot the 3 from anywhere and looks fluid and natural doing it. He changes directions with the ball like a guard. He's a wing offensively.. defensively he can guard wings with his length but ideally you want him protecting the basket from the weak side.

[3ddman23]

The thing that is kind of weird to me is i keep seeing people say that jabari doesn't have a handle and cant generate much offense. But when i watch chet play i see exactly the same thing. I think chet handle is a bit overstated. Sure he looks good in the open floor with no one pressuring him but so did jabari. As soon as the pressure comes on both of them they both struggle handling the rock.

So im not so sure why people keep bringing up the fact that jabari doesn't have a handle but dont say the same for chet? Honestly the one with he most advance handle of the 3 is paolo.

Im truly torn between the 3 and dont know who i would go, but ill say this paolo is slow creeping up my rankings closer to jabari & chet(although im almost certain the magic wont take him).

[Skybox]

Wonder if players are snubbing the Magic again?

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again? what are you referring to?

One of the Magic beat writers said that some of the players canceled their media availability. I thought maybe they were just canceling with the Magic's people.

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Standard ORL fan inferiority complex/conspiracy theorist

[IllMagic04]

If we take Chet number 1 I'm not gonna be mad. I lost the right to be mad after I was mad we drafted Franz. I made a fool of myself with how wrong I was so I suspended myself from being mad at their selection for a year. So no matter what I will not complain. Having said that I'm legit curious to those who want to take Chet number 1. What is it about his game that makes you think he can be a star? Lets pretend his body fills out enough ( which I think it will). What about his game indicates star? Like do you think that hes gonna be so dominate on the defensive side that he will be a star? I personally think he could be as good as JI was before the injury on defense. Before the injury JI was playing out of his mind on the defensive side. I think he can get there without question but is that a star? Does anyone think he's even good enough to be a third option offensively? If so based on what? He's not braking anyone down of the dribble, He can shot but not as good as Jabari and not the level of tough shots as Jabari. I watched him a bunch this year. I just dont see a star offensively. Defensively I'm pretty sold. The thing I wonder is how much he didn't get to show at Gonzaga cause Timme was the primary option

[swarlesbarkley]

Can Jabari become a taller, more athletic Klay Thompson? I don't see him as a comp being thrown around but Klay is known for being a jump shooter and a guy who doesn't need to dribble to score - also a guy in his prime who was a top league defender (just below Kawhi).

If that's the case, is Jabari worth a #1? Is Klay who he is without Steph and Draymond?

[basketballRob]

again? what are you referring to?

One of the Magic beat writers said that some of the players canceled their media availability. I thought maybe they were just canceling with the Magic's people.

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That doesn't answer the question. You said again. I didn't hear news about players snubbing the Magic at all within the last two seasons.

Suggs, Isaac, and Bamba didn't work out for us. The only player in the top 5 last year that worked out for us was Barnes and he wasn't a top 5 lock.

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[MAGICian619]

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Wonder if players are snubbing the Magic again?

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Lol no one is snubbing the Magic to not be the #1 pick, make less money and move to OKC.

[Def Swami]

Thought this was one of the best cases for Banchero I've read so far.
https://deanondraft.com/2022/03/24/where-does-paolo-banchero-fit-in-the-modern-nba-and-2022-draft/

[penny_nz]

Something about Paolo, with absolutely no background, that worried me during the lotto was during interviews he was very about "wanting to be a star, I'm the best player" etc, which I have NO problem with, love the confidence...

BUT, it SCREAMED "I'm moving to LA in 5 years" to me. I may be completely off the mark here, just those first impressions/ gut feel.

[zaymon]

If we take Chet number 1 I'm not gonna be mad. I lost the right to be mad after I was mad we drafted Franz. I made a fool of myself with how wrong I was so I suspended myself from being mad at their selection for a year. So no matter what I will not complain. Having said that I'm legit curious to those who want to take Chet number 1. What is it about his game that makes you think he can be a star? Lets pretend his body fills out enough ( which I think it will). What about his game indicates star? Like do you think that hes gonna be so dominate on the defensive side that he will be a star? I personally think he could be as good as JI was before the injury on defense. Before the injury JI was playing out of his mind on the defensive side. I think he can get there without question but is that a star? Does anyone think he's even good enough to be a third option offensively? If so based on what? He's not braking anyone down of the dribble, He can shot but not as good as Jabari and not the level of tough shots as Jabari. I watched him a bunch this year. I just dont see a star offensively. Defensively I'm pretty sold. The thing I wonder is how much he didn't get to show at Gonzaga cause Timme was the primary option

I was very high on Wagner before the draft, I had him one spot before Suggs. I am not so high on Chet. His handle is overrated, he couldnt create much in the halfcourt. Isaac is much more athletic than Holmgren. Isaac can stay in front of anybody, girafe moving like a lion. Holmgren is mobile for a 7 footer but he cant stay in front of quicker wings let alone guards. I love his attitude, i would pick him second, but Holmgren is in another league offensively imo.

Can Jabari become a taller, more athletic Klay Thompson? I don't see him as a comp being thrown around but Klay is known for being a jump shooter and a guy who doesn't need to dribble to score - also a guy in his prime who was a top league defender (just below Kawhi).

If that's the case, is Jabari worth a #1? Is Klay who he is without Steph and Draymond?

Thompson work in GSW offense becouse he is great decision maker and passer, he could also drive to the rim. Smith forces tough shots and is really limited offensively.

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Thompson is much more similar to Banchero when you watch film.

[zaymon]

Thought this was one of the best cases for Banchero I've read so far.
https://deanondraft.com/2022/03/24/where-does-paolo-banchero-fit-in-the-modern-nba-and-2022-draft/

https://www.thestepien.com/2022/02/15/jabari-vs-paolo-examining-their-biggest-difference/

Magic told agents we are taking Banchero and thats why everyone else canceled interviews ;P

[IllMagic04]

Can Jabari become a taller, more athletic Klay Thompson? I don't see him as a comp being thrown around but Klay is known for being a jump shooter and a guy who doesn't need to dribble to score - also a guy in his prime who was a top league defender (just below Kawhi).

If that's the case, is Jabari worth a #1? Is Klay who he is without Steph and Draymond?

That is a very good point and great question. Would I take Klay number 1 in a draft? I think I would. Obviously Klay is also one of the greatest shooters to ever play so the level of shooter that Jabari would have to get to is crazy high but the level of shooting he shoot in college puts him on an elite path for sure. That's a pretty good best case scenario for him

[thelead]

Why are we comparing a natural PF to a natural SG?

[Last Guardian]

If we take Chet number 1 I'm not gonna be mad. I lost the right to be mad after I was mad we drafted Franz. I made a fool of myself with how wrong I was so I suspended myself from being mad at their selection for a year. So no matter what I will not complain. Having said that I'm legit curious to those who want to take Chet number 1. What is it about his game that makes you think he can be a star? Lets pretend his body fills out enough ( which I think it will). What about his game indicates star? Like do you think that hes gonna be so dominate on the defensive side that he will be a star? I personally think he could be as good as JI was before the injury on defense. Before the injury JI was playing out of his mind on the defensive side. I think he can get there without question but is that a star? Does anyone think he's even good enough to be a third option offensively? If so based on what? He's not braking anyone down of the dribble, He can shot but not as good as Jabari and not the level of tough shots as Jabari. I watched him a bunch this year. I just dont see a star offensively. Defensively I'm pretty sold. The thing I wonder is how much he didn't get to show at Gonzaga cause Timme was the primary option

Are you sure about that? I know JI played a LONG time ago now but from what I remember I don't see any path for Chet getting to that level. If you had to create a perfect defender in the lab you'd probably come out with JI (and this would be great because in the lab you could make him less injury prone).

Anyway, I'm leaning towards Jabari. He does seem mostly 3&D but can't ignore he makes some tough shots too and has athleticism to dunk on people. He's a little light himself but clearly has more of a frame to work with. I think it is a possibility he could develop into a prolific scorer.

[IllMagic04]

Why are we comparing a natural PF to a natural SG?

I think we are more so comparing the impact of a elite shooting player that doesn;t create

[Def Swami]

This is one of my biggest red flags with Smith.

Jabari is obviously the better shooter, but he is limited outside of shooting. Notably, he is making 43.5% inside the arc, which is downright pathetic for a 6’10 prospect projected in the top 3. His main issue is that he struggles to create rim attempts, with just 65 of his 239 2PA (27.2%) coming at the rim...

...And even though Paolo has taken a far higher volume of rim attempts, he still converts more than Smith at 63.9% vs 61.5%

[thelead]

This is one of my biggest red flags with Smith.

Jabari is obviously the better shooter, but he is limited outside of shooting. Notably, he is making 43.5% inside the arc, which is downright pathetic for a 6’10 prospect projected in the top 3. His main issue is that he struggles to create rim attempts, with just 65 of his 239 2PA (27.2%) coming at the rim...

...And even though Paolo has taken a far higher volume of rim attempts, he still converts more than Smith at 63.9% vs 61.5%

It's my only red flag... but it's a BIG one IMO.

[basketballRob]

This is one of my biggest red flags with Smith.

Jabari is obviously the better shooter, but he is limited outside of shooting. Notably, he is making 43.5% inside the arc, which is downright pathetic for a 6’10 prospect projected in the top 3. His main issue is that he struggles to create rim attempts, with just 65 of his 239 2PA (27.2%) coming at the rim...

...And even though Paolo has taken a far higher volume of rim attempts, he still converts more than Smith at 63.9% vs 61.5%

He did take a lot of two-point shots just inside the three-point line. He needs to take a page out of Franz's book and just don't shoot shots in the mid-range.

Franz 3-10' 455%, 10-16' 310%, 16'-3 pt. line 250%.

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[zaymon]

This is one of my biggest red flags with Smith.

Jabari is obviously the better shooter, but he is limited outside of shooting. Notably, he is making 43.5% inside the arc, which is downright pathetic for a 6’10 prospect projected in the top 3. His main issue is that he struggles to create rim attempts, with just 65 of his 239 2PA (27.2%) coming at the rim...

...And even though Paolo has taken a far higher volume of rim attempts, he still converts more than Smith at 63.9% vs 61.5%

He did take a lot of two-point shots just inside the three-point line. He needs to take a page out of Franz's book and just don't shoot shots in the mid-range.

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He couldnt make more than 2-3 dribbles in the halfcourt thats the problem. Wagner handle is looking like Kyrie Irving next to Jabari.