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LoveMyRaps wrote:When it comes to developing players, no team does it better than the Raptors.
Followed by the Spurs, Heat, and Warriors (in no particular order).
LoveMyRaps wrote:tamaraw08 wrote:LoveMyRaps wrote:
It's not just about undrafted players.
Look at the development curve for the following guys:
Siakam, OG, Fred (UD), Powell, TD (UD), Boucher (UD), Achiuwa
Those are just the most recent examples off the top of my head. Not a single lottery pick. Siakam was the 27th overall pick and was very much a reach at the time.
A lot of players, media and league personnel always speak highly about the Raptors development staff.
We have to rely heavily on our development because it's tough getting American free agents to sign with us.
Our 2nd round selection and undrafted signee from this past season (Banton and Champagnie) tore up the G-League and led the 905 to the best regular season record and the G-League conference finals.
Gary Payton II also played for the Raptors 905 last before landing a full time job with the Warriors.
Achiuwa was actually discovered and was being nurtured by Miami but was a added to the trade package so...
The title thread was basically for un-drafted/Gleaguers where Miami had at least 6 players that past 3-4 years, who probably be playing semi pro abroad, Raptors have certainly done well but if you are throwing in 27th picks etc, then you are expanding the scope and must mention other teams now like the Lakers who acquired Clarkson, Kuz, Hart, Zubac, Bryant etc aside from developing undrafted ones like Caruso and Reaves.
Are you kidding???
The difference between Achiuwa in a Heat jersey and a Raptors jersey is night & day.
Raptors made him who he is today. Achiuwa was barely getting any runs with the Heat team and utilized solely as a rim runner.
He attempted 1 three (made 0) in his rookie year with the Heat.
With the Raptors, he attempted 156 and shot 36% from behind the arc.
Post all-star break, Precious shot 36-89 from deep (40.5%).
Raptors also utilized him as a ball handler and a guy that was asked to defend 1 through 5. (He was the Raptors best defender last season as well).
Raptors had him doing stuff like this:
So yeah... it's pretty ignorant of you to give Miami the credit for Achiuwa's development.
Even Heat fans will tell you that Precious was a completely different player this season.
. Fine he's taking and making 3pt shots which should help his TS%, bec it's weighted more right? and yet his TS% dropped from 55 to 50%, his PER AND FTrate higher in Miami. But fine, he developed under Nurse, but again read the FREAKING THREAD TITLE!!! 
BBallFreak wrote:Including Siakim and Achiuwa defeats the purpose of this thread. These were first round picks. Title literally references G-Leaguers. Toronto doesn't need to hold up those two in order to prove they're good at this kind of player development, though.
Actually, one has nothing to do with the other. Players take time to develop. We knew he had the potential to shoot the three ball. We were trying to get him to focus his game on other things first. Get him NBA ready before fully unleashing him. We loved him down in Miami, but you gotta give to get.dshearn wrote:LoveMyRaps wrote:When it comes to developing players, no team does it better than the Raptors.
Followed by the Spurs, Heat, and Warriors (in no particular order).
What Miami did with Precious verses the Raptors is telling.
I think the talent was always inside Precious, how playable and how quickly the Raptors got him there is telling.
dshearn wrote:As far as Precious goes...
MIAMI was drafting 2.0 Bam.
They aimed for a 1-5 defender that could handle the ball. That was the blueprint.
Miami put him in a box, the Raptors took him about of the box and I don't think many Miami fans expected him to respond as quickly as he has.
You can give Miami credit for finding him, but his growth has a hell of alot to do with the Raptors.
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tamaraw08 wrote:BBallFreak wrote:Including Siakim and Achiuwa defeats the purpose of this thread. These were first round picks. Title literally references G-Leaguers. Toronto doesn't need to hold up those two in order to prove they're good at this kind of player development, though.
Yup, I agree. What Toronto did to FVV was awesome though, Boucher? fine, But freaking Struss, Vincent AND I forgot about Caleb Martin, 3 undrafted players actually contributing deep in the playoffs, are you kidding me?
Raps in 4 wrote:Raptors:
Siakam (27th pick) - All-Star/All-NBA
VanVleet (Undrafted) - All-Star
Boucher (Undrafted) - Rotation player
Raptors, Heat, and Spurs have the best player development in the league.
