Bob Cousy claps back at JJ Redick

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Most guards of today including Reddick would dribble worse than Cousy if they called traveling/palming today like they did back then.

Not necesarrily true. I got called for carries probably every other game in gradeschool while simply bringing the ball up court and calling a play. Players today are a taking advantage of the NBA not caring but to act as if they couldnt adapt is ridiculous. We were brought up with the same rules as Cousy played with and players today still excelled at those levels.

[soxfan2003]

Most guards of today including Reddick would dribble worse than Cousy if they called traveling/palming today like they did back then.

Not necesarrily true. I got called for carries probably every other game in gradeschool while simply bringing the ball up court and calling a play. Players today are a taking advantage of the NBA not caring but to act as if they couldnt adapt is ridiculous. We were brought up with the same rules as Cousy played with and players today still excelled at those levels.

Cousy was a great dribber/passer and not just a very good one. I mean historically great but held back by rules. I agree that most players would adapt but most guards of today would not be dribbling as well as Cousy. Not even close to be honest.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Robert Cousy droppin' that knowledge

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Most guards of today including Reddick would dribble worse than Cousy if they called traveling/palming today like they did back then.

Not necesarrily true. I got called for carries probably every other game in gradeschool while simply bringing the ball up court and calling a play. Players today are a taking advantage of the NBA not caring but to act as if they couldnt adapt is ridiculous. We were brought up with the same rules as Cousy played with and players today still excelled at those levels.

Cousy was a great dribber/passer and not just a very good one. I mean historically great but held back by rules. I agree that most players would adapt but most guards of today would not be dribbling as well as Cousy. Not even close to be honest.

That's a bad take imo, one look at Jimmy B's dribbling routine from a few months ago would rebut that. The relaxed rules just allow for more explosivness but, with their athetlic ability, they would still be able to blow by Cousy and his opponents if rules were followed as they were meant to be. They would be forced to focus on that more and still excel.

[Infinite Llamas]

Good for Bob for standing up for his generation of players. A lot of them aren’t around anymore to defend themselves.

There is a way to prop up your current generation without sounding like a dbag and **** all over those that came before you. Reddick is too ignorant to see that line in the sand.

[DoctorX]

Good for Bob for standing up for his generation of players. A lot of them aren’t around anymore to defend themselves.

There is a way to prop up your current generation without sounding like a dbag and **** all over those that came before you. Reddick is too ignorant to see that line in the sand.

Reddick is an ass kisser. He will say anything to get in good graces with today's players and I say this as a guy who is only a year older than him.

[AussieRules]

i like how now everyones gonna trash on Redick and pretend like he isn't rehashing the same stuff 95% of people say here. RealGM doesnt even respect 80s and 90s basketball, hell a lot of people here think 2000s ball was trash

Well said.

[soxfan2003]

Not necesarrily true. I got called for carries probably every other game in gradeschool while simply bringing the ball up court and calling a play. Players today are a taking advantage of the NBA not caring but to act as if they couldnt adapt is ridiculous. We were brought up with the same rules as Cousy played with and players today still excelled at those levels.

Cousy was a great dribber/passer and not just a very good one. I mean historically great but held back by rules. I agree that most players would adapt but most guards of today would not be dribbling as well as Cousy. Not even close to be honest.

That's a bad take imo, one look at Jimmy B's dribbling routine from a few months ago would rebut that. The relaxed rules just allow for more explosivness but, with their athetlic ability, they would still be able to blow by Cousy and his opponents if rules were followed as they were meant to be. They would be forced to focus on that more and still excel.

Jimmy Butler isn't even a guard, right on this Heat team? You are trying to put words in my mouth. Butler has very good dribbling skills for a SF but not if he has a full head of steam....those skills don't compare to Cousy compared to what I have seen over the years. Difference between a PG and a SG/SF.

But I still largely disagree with you. If you can't carry, and with no 3 point shot, much harder to blow by anyone and gain a real advantage. You just be driving into crowded paint at best. Check how some of the best athletes in NBA history have occassionally struggled against foregn competiion despite still playing with more liberal international rules compared to 50's.

I'm not even saying Cousy would necessarily even be a good NBA player according to today's rules but his dribbling skills would be in the top 5% with ease among all NBA guards. I mean with ease if rules on dribbling enforced.

Guy was a magician with court vision and dribbling skills you can't teach and he was not even being able to take advantage of these modern rules.

But with modern day NBA concepts there are probably hundreds of fairly quick players that can dribble better than most NBA players not even in the league.

Once it is at an acceptable level, it just isn't as important of a skill for most PGs especially if you can carry than size/height/defense/shooting etc in the modern NBA were switching is important. Most teams don't even want their PG's dribbling that much nowadays since a small PG pounding the ball doesn't usually result in winning championships.

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Cousy was a great dribber/passer and not just a very good one. I mean historically great but held back by rules. I agree that most players would adapt but most guards of today would not be dribbling as well as Cousy. Not even close to be honest.

That's a bad take imo, one look at Jimmy B's dribbling routine from a few months ago would rebut that. The relaxed rules just allow for more explosivness but, with their athetlic ability, they would still be able to blow by Cousy and his opponents if rules were followed as they were meant to be. They would be forced to focus on that more and still excel.

Jimmy Butler isn't even a guard, right on this Heat team? You are trying to put words in my mouth. Butler has very good dribbling skills for a SF but not if he has a full head of steam....those skills don't compare to Cousy compared to what I have seen over the years. Difference between a PG and a SG/SF.
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Lol calm down. Cousy's full head of a steam would have P Bev stopping him in a second.

[ryan in Maine]

They sell hot takes and work on commission.

[soxfan2003]

Good for Bob for standing up for his generation of players. A lot of them aren’t around anymore to defend themselves.

There is a way to prop up your current generation without sounding like a dbag and **** all over those that came before you. Reddick is too ignorant to see that line in the sand.

Reddick is an ass kisser. He will say anything to get in good graces with today's players and I say this as a guy who is only a year older than him.

I saw a podcast of Reddick interviewing KD and it was okay overall but the amount of KD ass kissing by Reddick was embarrassing. There is KD and then other NBA players. He implied that over a 10 year player the majority of NBA players if not overwhelming percentage thought KD > Lebron during that entire time period.

that is just clearly a bunch of BS.

[soxfan2003]

That's a bad take imo, one look at Jimmy B's dribbling routine from a few months ago would rebut that. The relaxed rules just allow for more explosivness but, with their athetlic ability, they would still be able to blow by Cousy and his opponents if rules were followed as they were meant to be. They would be forced to focus on that more and still excel.

Jimmy Butler isn't even a guard, right on this Heat team? You are trying to put words in my mouth. Butler has very good dribbling skills for a SF but not if he has a full head of steam....those skills don't compare to Cousy compared to what I have seen over the years. Difference between a PG and a SG/SF.
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Lol calm down. Cousy's full head of a steam would have P Bev stopping him in a second.

LOL. I doubt it unless they let him get away with a foul.

[Ballerhogger]

That’s right JJ now go away

[DoctorX]

Good for Bob for standing up for his generation of players. A lot of them aren’t around anymore to defend themselves.

There is a way to prop up your current generation without sounding like a dbag and **** all over those that came before you. Reddick is too ignorant to see that line in the sand.

Reddick is an ass kisser. He will say anything to get in good graces with today's players and I say this as a guy who is only a year older than him.

I saw a podcast of Reddick interviewing KD and it was okay overall but the amount of KD ass kissing by Reddick was embarrassing. There is KD and then other NBA players. He implied that over a 10 year player the majority of NBA players if not overwhelming percentage thought KD > Lebron during that entire time period.

that is just clearly a bunch of BS.

He was too scared to speak out against KD when he went to the Warriors and one of the first guys to kiss KD's ass about going there. Later on, I heard him say on his podcast a year or two ago that he didn't want to speak out against KD going to the Warriors because he felt there was racial overtones with people criticizing KD for going to the Warriors. That showed to me he is bigtime ass kisser and will say anything to kiss ass and get in good graces with guys.

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Jimmy Butler isn't even a guard, right on this Heat team? You are trying to put words in my mouth. Butler has very good dribbling skills for a SF but not if he has a full head of steam....those skills don't compare to Cousy compared to what I have seen over the years. Difference between a PG and a SG/SF.
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Lol calm down. Cousy's full head of a steam would have P Bev stopping him in a second.

LOL. I doubt it unless they let him get away with a foul.

You really think Cousy is faster/quicker than Bev? Your Celtics sticker, if you will, clearly indicates some homerism.

[Ballerhogger]

Lol calm down. Cousy's full head of a steam would have P Bev stopping him in a second.

LOL. I doubt it unless they let him get away with a foul.

You really think Cousy is faster/quicker than Bev? Your Celtics sticker, if you will, clearly indicates some homerism.

Idk if he’s quicker but he’s smarter and knows how to help his team more than hurt his team like pat does

[soxfan2003]

Lol calm down. Cousy's full head of a steam would have P Bev stopping him in a second.

LOL. I doubt it unless they let him get away with a foul.

You really think Cousy is faster/quicker than Bev? Your Celtics sticker, if you will, clearly indicates some homerism.

I'm saying Patrick Beverly couldn't steal the ball much from Cousy in the open court. Cousy was fast enough for sure and someone who is fairly fast with superb ballhandling skills and court vision is very tough to steal the ball from unless you can hack him.

Beverly is hardly Michael Jordan stealing the ball. He has 2 seasons with more than 2 steals per 36 minutes.

Frankly Beverly is a smart enough player and I doubt he even tries to steal the ball from Cousy much since he wouldn't be successful. Better to just stay in front of him and play passing lanes.

[soxfan2003]

Lol calm down. Cousy's full head of a steam would have P Bev stopping him in a second.

LOL. I doubt it unless they let him get away with a foul.

You really think Cousy is faster/quicker than Bev? Your Celtics sticker, if you will, clearly indicates some homerism.

Jerry Rice was slower than probably 90% of defensive backs who guarded him. Check how many yards he has as an NFL receiver. Big advantage to player that knows where they are going if they are well conditioned like Cousy/Rice and highly skilled.

If a player has strong ball handling skills and is fairly fast and has maneuverability they aren't just a straight ahead dribbler like Jaylen Brown of the Celtis, they don't have to be Usain Bolt to be tough to stop dribbling the ball.

[MrGoat]

That makes no sense, it's called getting acclimated. He played in an era when people have some of the best trainers that exist, same as everyone else, and still made a name for himself. It's as if he sucked in gradeschool in some $50 tmacs like the rest of us and then suddenly found success.

Right, and he would have had literally none of that if he suddenly had to learn to survive in the 1950s. Pretty simple concept. It was a different era with completely different standards, completely different technology, and the game had different rules. The time travel logic works both ways. Quit insulting the greats of the past because it makes you feel better about propping up the present.

Reddick is a hall of fame if he played in the 50s

Let’s not act like the overall talent level of thr NBA hasn’t grown at insane rates.

We can appreciate Cousy, but my god he would be wiped by modern players

Redick may not even make it in the 50s. Very different game. No 3 point line, the games were officiated very differently, and people are underselling the athletic ability of the players even back then. It's not like Redick would just be blowing by everybody on drives and he would take a pounding. Ironically, Redick's almost the perfect example of a modern guy who couldn't hack it in the 50s

[Ballerhogger]

Right, and he would have had literally none of that if he suddenly had to learn to survive in the 1950s. Pretty simple concept. It was a different era with completely different standards, completely different technology, and the game had different rules. The time travel logic works both ways. Quit insulting the greats of the past because it makes you feel better about propping up the present.

Reddick is a hall of fame if he played in the 50s
Adding the fact he’s skinny flopper yea .. he wouldn’t make it on the court
Let’s not act like the overall talent level of thr NBA hasn’t grown at insane rates.

We can appreciate Cousy, but my god he would be wiped by modern players

Redick may not even make it in the 50s. Very different game. No 3 point line, the games were officiated very differently, and people are underselling the athletic ability of the players even back then. It's not like Redick would just be blowing by everybody on drives and he would take a pounding. Ironically, Redick's almost the perfect example of a modern guy who couldn't hack it in the 50s