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Who do you want us to take at #1?

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Who would you take at #1?

Jabari smith
111
51%
Chet Holmgren
63
29%
Paolo Banchero
27
13%
Jaden Ivey
1
0%
Keegan Murray
1
0%
Shaedon Sharpe
8
4%
Other
5
2%
 
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#421 » by drsd » Fri May 20, 2022 10:04 am

bigdogdylan5 wrote:Ok can someone try and talk me into Jabari? I am leaning to far towards Chet and I want to be perfectly balanced so I am not annoyed draft night. I just always thought the handle is one of the hardest things to improve. Can he do it?


Orlando needs a high percentage, high volume jump shooter. Smith has the most perfect form and mechanics of any player in this draft.




But what also makes him special is nearly perfect defensive form.

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Post#422 » by Magic4champ » Fri May 20, 2022 10:35 am

For the 1st pick, it's Banchero. Key is versatility, floor game, offensive 3 level scorer. He can play as the primary initiator or he can also play off the ball. He can be our Luka on the offense. In defense he can certainly make the switch together with Wagner. Banchero is exactly what our young core needs.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#423 » by basketballRob » Fri May 20, 2022 11:09 am

Smith reminds me of Scottie on defense. He'll mostly guard bigs and big small forwards like Ingram, Durant, and Giannis. He has the ability to guard the perimeter and not get consistently beat off the dribble.

His body looks like could have a Giannis-like growth. He also has his nonstop motor on both ends.

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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#424 » by paperboymafia » Fri May 20, 2022 12:01 pm

Probably Smith but there's a big part of me that is so intrigued by Chet.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#425 » by MagicTownBaller » Fri May 20, 2022 12:21 pm

Every day I'm leaning more and more towards Chet. We can't pass up on his potential.

I just hope this is not the number 1 pick we regret.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#426 » by Skybox » Fri May 20, 2022 12:23 pm

basketballRob wrote:Smith reminds me of Scottie on defense. He'll mostly guard bigs and big small forwards like Ingram, Durant, and Giannis. He has the ability to guard the perimeter and not get consistently beat off the dribble.

His body looks like could have a Giannis-like growth. He also has his nonstop motor on both ends.

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This is like so many of your posts (to me). You have me with good logic and then, at the end, you casually suggest that he might have a freakish growth spurt...based on what?
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Post#427 » by cedric76 » Fri May 20, 2022 12:23 pm

drsd wrote:
bigdogdylan5 wrote:Ok can someone try and talk me into Jabari? I am leaning to far towards Chet and I want to be perfectly balanced so I am not annoyed draft night. I just always thought the handle is one of the hardest things to improve. Can he do it?


Orlando needs a high percentage, high volume jump shooter. Smith has the most perfect form and mechanics of any player in this draft.




But what also makes him special is nearly perfect defensive form.



+ can play both forward spots
+ Very very hard worker, 1st at the gym type of guy
+ Very coachable, wants what is best for the team
+ Non stop motor
+ Body that should last longer than chet's body (fingers crossed)
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#428 » by basketballRob » Fri May 20, 2022 12:32 pm

Skybox wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Smith reminds me of Scottie on defense. He'll mostly guard bigs and big small forwards like Ingram, Durant, and Giannis. He has the ability to guard the perimeter and not get consistently beat off the dribble.

His body looks like could have a Giannis-like growth. He also has his nonstop motor on both ends.

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This is like so many of your posts (to me). You have me with good logic and then, at the end, you casually suggest that he might have a freakish growth spurt...based on what?
By growth, I meant adding muscle. That's based on a Bruce Pearl interview I listened to. A young player's frame gives you an idea how much muscle they can add. I remember when we drafted Dwight they kept talking about his shoulder width and that his frame would add muscle.

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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#429 » by swarlesbarkley » Fri May 20, 2022 12:46 pm

For whatever reason, it makes me nervous to draft a guy who was in the 5-10 prospect range going into college when 2 of the always top 3 in this class are still top 3.

A player can show a lot in 1 year at college to move up the rankings, but I tend to wonder if it was a 1 year fluke somehow or if it's actually a trend that can be reproduced.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#430 » by swarlesbarkley » Fri May 20, 2022 12:50 pm

basketballRob wrote:
Skybox wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Smith reminds me of Scottie on defense. He'll mostly guard bigs and big small forwards like Ingram, Durant, and Giannis. He has the ability to guard the perimeter and not get consistently beat off the dribble.

His body looks like could have a Giannis-like growth. He also has his nonstop motor on both ends.

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This is like so many of your posts (to me). You have me with good logic and then, at the end, you casually suggest that he might have a freakish growth spurt...based on what?
By growth, I meant adding muscle. That's based on a Bruce Pearl interview I listened to. A young player's frame gives you an idea how much muscle they can add. I remember when we drafted Dwight they kept talking about his shoulder width and that his frame would add muscle.



I liked what he said about Jabari's size and spirit - I also laughed when he compared him to KD, Tobias Harris, and CHUMA OKEKE.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#431 » by pepe1991 » Fri May 20, 2022 12:51 pm

basketballRob wrote:
Skybox wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Smith reminds me of Scottie on defense. He'll mostly guard bigs and big small forwards like Ingram, Durant, and Giannis. He has the ability to guard the perimeter and not get consistently beat off the dribble.

His body looks like could have a Giannis-like growth. He also has his nonstop motor on both ends.

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This is like so many of your posts (to me). You have me with good logic and then, at the end, you casually suggest that he might have a freakish growth spurt...based on what?
By growth, I meant adding muscle. That's based on a Bruce Pearl interview I listened to. A young player's frame gives you an idea how much muscle they can add. I remember when we drafted Dwight they kept talking about his shoulder width and that his frame would add muscle.



Growth means growing in air, going from 6'8 to 6'9 or 6'10.
Adding muscles = adding weight. Every single person ,especially young kid with free testosterone level through a roof can add weight and portion of it will be muscle mass if he eats enough proteins and forces muscle growth by donig some sort of exercise that target that muscle group, and over period of time does progressive overloud of weight to challenge it.

This isn't rocket science. Every single person who stands over some 6'0 and is 18-40 yeras old can bulk up to 240 pounds like Giannis.
HOWEVER, 99,99999% of them will at some point convert additional caloric suficit into pure fat and over time their athletic performances will just go to s***. Along with aestetic look.

Most nba players, much like majority of people simply can't sustain ( let alone improve ) athletic ability after adding XY amount of kilos/ Pounds to their body frame. Without using illegal substances with is story for another day.

Body itself, especially heart ( who is main muscle to pump blood and distrubutes oxigen to muscles that is needed for athletic performances) does not know difference between fat and muscle mass. So it's very hard to keep athletic performances with massive weight gain and it's challenging to your heart over long period of time.

In general, vast majority of coaching experts belive that top tear athletes indeed touch illegal substances in offseason to improve body & faster recovery. And not small chunk of fitness experts belive portion of nba players is indeed juiced up whole year long.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#432 » by fateis007 » Fri May 20, 2022 12:54 pm

I am so tired of picking based in upside. seriously. Chet is rail thin, and its very possible his game doesn't translate. And Jabari is literally a 3-D guy right now. Is that all you want from a #1 pick?

Arent you guys tired of losing? we have been rebuilding for 10 years. no more projects.

You pick Banchero and move on. The dude is a 250 lb scorer that plays like a guard. He has great handles, great speed (especially for his size) He can run push the ball, run pick and rolls, pass, huge amount of post up moves or he can bang inside and actually draw fouls. His shot is respectable. We have been waiting for this type of player for years. Someone you can just give the ball too and get buckets.

People need to stop lookng at him as just some big power forward and more like a Jimmy butler with 30 extra lbs.

Watch his film from a year ago when he was 20 lbs light. He plays like a freaking stunning guard.

We had the worst offense in the NBA last year, we don't need just a guy launching up 3s all game. We need a true #1 option, and banchero is it.



This was him a year ago before he bulked up even more at duke. He is not some stiff PF, his skill set is vast and he is NBA ready
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#433 » by swarlesbarkley » Fri May 20, 2022 1:05 pm

fateis007 wrote:I am so tired of picking based in upside. seriously. Chet is rail thin, and its very possible his game doesn't translate. And Jabari is literally a 3-D guy right now. Is that all you want from a #1 pick?

Arent you guys tired of losing?

You pick Banchero and move on. The dude is a 250 lb scorer that plays like a guard. He has great handles, great speed (especially for his size) He can run push the ball, run pick and rolls, pass, huge amount of post up moves or he can bang inside and actually draw fouls. His shot is respectable. We have been waiting for this type of player for years. Someone you can just give the ball too and get buckets.

People need to stop lookng at him as just some big power forward and more like a Jimmy butler with 30 extra lbs.

Watch his film from a year ago when he was 20 lbs light. He plays like a freaking stunning guard.

We had the worst offense in the NBA last year, we don't need just a guy launching up 3s all game. We need a true #1 option, and banchero is it.



This was him a year ago before he bulked up even more. He is not some stiff PF, his skill set is vast and he is NBA ready


Yeah, I'm curious if he keeps his 250lbs in the NBA or if he lands somewhere between his high school body and college body. The weight is good to bang around down low, no doubt, but if a team wants him to be a primary ball handler I could see them trying to get him to 230 to be a bit quicker.

When I watch Paolo's tape I see LeBron and Luka. Obviously that's the highest ceiling if he succeeds as a primary ball handler - but that's what I'd shoot for with the #1 pick.

Jabari will be a great piece for a long time, but I don't think he moves the needle for a franchise.

Chet could move the needle, but he needs so much development in his body and game to get there.

Paolo's already got the skills - just got to give him the opportunity to see how he uses those skills.
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Post#434 » by Skybox » Fri May 20, 2022 1:09 pm

fateis007 wrote:I am so tired of picking based in upside. seriously. Chet is rail thin, and its very possible his game doesn't translate. And Jabari is literally a 3-D guy right now. Is that all you want from a #1 pick?

Arent you guys tired of losing?

You pick Banchero and move on. The dude is a 250 lb scorer that plays like a guard. He has great handles, great speed (especially for his size) He can run push the ball, run pick and rolls, pass, huge amount of post up moves or he can bang inside and actually draw fouls. His shot is respectable. We have been waiting for this type of player for years. Someone you can just give the ball too and get buckets.

People need to stop lookng at him as just some big power forward and more like a Jimmy butler with 30 extra lbs.

Watch his film from a year ago when he was 20 lbs light. He plays like a freaking stunning guard.

We had the worst offense in the NBA last year, we don't need just a guy launching up 3s all game. We need a true #1 option, and banchero is it.



This was him a year ago before he bulked up even more. He is not some stiff PF, his skill set is vast and he is NBA ready


When I watch all of these AAU/HS superstar clips, I can't help but think of a Harlem Globetrotter game vs the Washington Generals. :lol:

No knock intended on your assessment of Paolo. I agree. I think he's a star, possibly the only one of the three...although I'm still enamored with Jabari's silky shooting and D.
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Post#435 » by fateis007 » Fri May 20, 2022 1:16 pm

Skybox wrote:
When I watch all of these AAU/HS superstar clips, I can't help but think of a Harlem Globetrotter game vs the Washington Generals. :lol:

No knock intended on your assessment of Paolo. I agree. I think he's a star, possibly the only one of the three...although I'm still enamored with Jabari's silky shooting and D.


lol obviously the intent is not to show his talent against a bunch of high schoolers, hes already proven his game in college against real competition. It was to show that just a year ago he was much slighter and not the monster he was today and his skills have translated.
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Post#436 » by Petre1978 » Fri May 20, 2022 1:18 pm

drsd wrote:
bigdogdylan5 wrote:Ok can someone try and talk me into Jabari? I am leaning to far towards Chet and I want to be perfectly balanced so I am not annoyed draft night. I just always thought the handle is one of the hardest things to improve. Can he do it?


Orlando needs a high percentage, high volume jump shooter. Smith has the most perfect form and mechanics of any player in this draft.




But what also makes him special is nearly perfect defensive form.


Always a pleasure to read your posts.
I think Smiths's shooting would do wonders to the Magic offense.
Smith together with Fultz and Wagner would be very intriguing.
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Post#437 » by Petre1978 » Fri May 20, 2022 1:33 pm







Everybody speaks about Holmgren, Smith, Banchero but the FO could also go a different route.
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Post#438 » by jonbob17 » Fri May 20, 2022 1:41 pm

Petre1978 wrote:

Everybody speaks about Holmgren, Smith, Banchero but the FO could also go a different route.


You're right. They could trade the pick. Ivey and Sharpe are not on the table at 1, and most likely not in consideration in top 3.
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Post#439 » by Nyce_1 » Fri May 20, 2022 1:48 pm

KillMonger wrote:The workouts are going to be what separates these guys. You always hear rumors about workouts....."such and such guy is killing the workouts" we heard such things about Mobley, Barnes.....on the other hand we also heard bouknight had good workouts too

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I disagree. I think it'll more-so be the interview and day in Orlando with dinner. Right now, they know what these guys bring to the team and what they'll project as; a workout won't be anything new. But actually talking and spending time with a person is what'll separate these guys.

I wish they brought Mo in for a workout back then. They would've went a different route.
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Post#440 » by tiderulz » Fri May 20, 2022 2:03 pm

fateis007 wrote:I am so tired of picking based in upside. seriously. Chet is rail thin, and its very possible his game doesn't translate. And Jabari is literally a 3-D guy right now. Is that all you want from a #1 pick?

Arent you guys tired of losing? we have been rebuilding for 10 years. no more projects.

You pick Banchero and move on. The dude is a 250 lb scorer that plays like a guard. He has great handles, great speed (especially for his size) He can run push the ball, run pick and rolls, pass, huge amount of post up moves or he can bang inside and actually draw fouls. His shot is respectable. We have been waiting for this type of player for years. Someone you can just give the ball too and get buckets.

People need to stop lookng at him as just some big power forward and more like a Jimmy butler with 30 extra lbs.

Watch his film from a year ago when he was 20 lbs light. He plays like a freaking stunning guard.

We had the worst offense in the NBA last year, we don't need just a guy launching up 3s all game. We need a true #1 option, and banchero is it.



This was him a year ago before he bulked up even more at duke. He is not some stiff PF, his skill set is vast and he is NBA ready

thanks for the video, and this is interesting. Him slimmed down looks a lot like college Tatum. both shot around the same from 3, both had questions about their defense, both willing passers, both known for their offensive skill set. now obviously, Tatum has continued to improve in the NBA. but I wonder if Banchero slimmed down, if he game wouldnt even be better and give him even more fluidity and agility. I think 250 is too heavy for him to play. 225-230, looking like he does in this video would be better for him.

I could be talked into him for the pick more than i thought i could be.

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