Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect

[The Moose]

I think our best shot at landing a lottery pick for Grant are some ideas im seeing in the trades forum.

Basically Portland trades 7 to Charlotte for 13 and 15. They then trade us 15 for Grant or just call it a 3 way trade.

Yea I think this is the most realistic.

If Charlotte wants a center , Duren or Williams , they will have to move most likely .
I would do the 13th+ young prospect for Grant

[A_dub06]

Mathurin did look like the best fit next to Cade though when watching him in the tourney. Im just not that excited about tanking a year and ending up with him at 5.

His stats and the eye test suggest he should be a good 3&d player but I don’t think that’s the kind of player you should be targeting after you’ve just tanked a year. Sharpe or Ivey should be the choices pure and simple.

Hopefully Weaver goes for high potential because high character role players do not lead you to championships.

[vic]

Mathurin did look like the best fit next to Cade though when watching him in the tourney. Im just not that excited about tanking a year and ending up with him at 5.

His stats and the eye test suggest he should be a good 3&d player but I don’t think that’s the kind of player you should be targeting after you’ve just tanked a year. Sharpe or Ivey should be the choices pure and simple.

Hopefully Weaver goes for high potential because high character role players do not lead you to championships.

Completely agree. If you purposely tank you gotta end up getting what you tanked for with the highest pick you get.

My question is, how much better is Keegan going to be than Isaiah Livers or Jerami Grant?

At 5 you gotta go for upside. Unless Troy knows something we don’t about Keegan

[vic]

Mathurin did look like the best fit next to Cade though when watching him in the tourney. Im just not that excited about tanking a year and ending up with him at 5.

His stats and the eye test suggest he should be a good 3&d player but I don’t think that’s the kind of player you should be targeting after you’ve just tanked a year. Sharpe or Ivey should be the choices pure and simple.

Hopefully Weaver goes for high potential because high character role players do not lead you to championships.

Completely agree. If you purposely tank you gotta end up getting what you tanked for with the highest pick you get.

My question is, how much better is Keegan going to be than Isaiah Livers or Jerami Grant?

At 5 you gotta go for upside. Unless Troy knows something we don’t about Keegan

[vic]

Mathurin did look like the best fit next to Cade though when watching him in the tourney. Im just not that excited about tanking a year and ending up with him at 5.

His stats and the eye test suggest he should be a good 3&d player but I don’t think that’s the kind of player you should be targeting after you’ve just tanked a year. Sharpe or Ivey should be the choices pure and simple.

Hopefully Weaver goes for high potential because high character role players do not lead you to championships.

Completely agree. If you purposely tank you gotta end up getting what you tanked for with the highest pick you get.

My question is, how much better is Keegan going to be than Isaiah Livers or Jerami Grant?

At 5 you gotta go for upside. Unless Troy knows something we don’t about Keegan

[zeebneeb]

Mathurin did look like the best fit next to Cade though when watching him in the tourney. Im just not that excited about tanking a year and ending up with him at 5.

Yup. I think everyone is on the same page when it comes to Mathurin. Would be a good fit next to Cade, ay pick #7.

I'm hoping that Grant+whatever lands the Pistons another Lottery pick, so it's Sharpe/Ivey+Duren.

That, to me, would be better then a top 3 pick.

[NYPiston]

Yep, KCP has been my comp for Mathurin too. 100% agree about the similar looking jumper. I looked I to their stat profiles a while ago too and they were very similar across most metrics.
I think Mathurin is a better vertical athlete than KCP was, but KCP the better defender.

I think that 3+D role is very likely for Mathurin though

I don't see the KCP comparison although I agree that the shooting motion is fairly similar. Mathurin is more explosive, has more offensive tools more playmaking chops although a work in progress and isn't nearly as good defensively as KCP was in college. KCP was constant motion and full effort on defense, he was a "try hard" guy that could hit spot up 3's while Mathurin is an athletic scorer who tends to float at times and is inconsistent on defense although the tools are there to be a good defender.
Mathurin wasn't as well rounded as KCP was but has a higher ceiling. He's like a lot of the prospects in this draft, lots of potential but not very polished.

[Rip32]

Yep, KCP has been my comp for Mathurin too. 100% agree about the similar looking jumper. I looked I to their stat profiles a while ago too and they were very similar across most metrics.
I think Mathurin is a better vertical athlete than KCP was, but KCP the better defender.

I think that 3+D role is very likely for Mathurin though

I don't see the KCP comparison although I agree that the shooting motion is fairly similar. Mathurin is more explosive, has more offensive tools more playmaking chops although a work in progress and isn't nearly as good defensively as KCP was in college. KCP was constant motion and full effort on defense, he was a "try hard" guy that could hit spot up 3's while Mathurin is an athletic scorer who tends to float at times and is inconsistent on defense although the tools are there to be a good defender.
Mathurin wasn't as well rounded as KCP was but has a higher ceiling. He's like a lot of the prospects in this draft, lots of potential but not very polished.

Mathurin a scorer/shooter imo. Add a post up game and he is Joe Dumars with major athleticism. His defense isn't like Joe D but there's always room for improvement. The draft guru at https://theathletic.com/ has him #5 on his big board.

[Sort]

I'm way late to this thread and don't ever watch college ball outside of a few games in the tournie, so everything I got is from scouting videos/online articles. Seems to me though that Ivey should be the clear front runner. I do acknowledge though that if Ivey starts with Cade, then Cade has to truly put on some muscle and hit that three a lot more consistently. With that said, you get Ivey to play with some defensive tenacity on a regular basis I'll take this "Morant light" and run to the bank. Pistons need downhill athleticism to balance Cade, and Ivey strikes me as a baller, just still a little immature.

But probably more mature than I was at his age...

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[MotownMadness]

Mathurin did look like the best fit next to Cade though when watching him in the tourney. Im just not that excited about tanking a year and ending up with him at 5.

Yup. I think everyone is on the same page when it comes to Mathurin. Would be a good fit next to Cade, ay pick #7.

I'm hoping that Grant+whatever lands the Pistons another Lottery pick, so it's Sharpe/Ivey+Duren.

That, to me, would be better then a top 3 pick.

Duren will probably be gone before 10 which is a area i cant see us getting too. Hopefully we can still have a shot at a guy like Mark Williams possibly if we can grab one of those last lotto picks.

[MotownMadness]

So did ESPN have Sharpe ranked ahead of guys like Wembanyama in next years draft?

[MotownMadness]

Little interview with Murray

Iowa standout Keegan Murray, a former teammate of Pistons rookie Luka Garza, could be the Pistons' pick at No. 5 in the NBA Draft. https://uw-media.detroitnews.com/embed/video/9853237002?placement=snow-embed

[Kalamazoo317]

Seems like Ivey, Sharpe, Murray, Mathurin are the guys in the mix for 5. Obviously Sacramento's pick will factor in. I think Mathurin probably is the player type I'd be most excited to add to our backcourt.

[zeebneeb]

Mathurin did look like the best fit next to Cade though when watching him in the tourney. Im just not that excited about tanking a year and ending up with him at 5.

Yup. I think everyone is on the same page when it comes to Mathurin. Would be a good fit next to Cade, ay pick #7.

I'm hoping that Grant+whatever lands the Pistons another Lottery pick, so it's Sharpe/Ivey+Duren.

That, to me, would be better then a top 3 pick.

Duren will probably be gone before 10 which is a area i cant see us getting too. Hopefully we can still have a shot at a guy like Mark Williams possibly if we can grab one of those last lotto picks.

I'm telling you, have hope here as there are multiple, multiple reports that the Blazers, Pelicans, and Kings are trying to move, or are going to move their picks.

Having two picks in the top ten is good odds right now. Somebody is going to want to trade with Detroit, and the question is going to be "what is the cost?"

[MotownMadness]

Yup. I think everyone is on the same page when it comes to Mathurin. Would be a good fit next to Cade, ay pick #7.

I'm hoping that Grant+whatever lands the Pistons another Lottery pick, so it's Sharpe/Ivey+Duren.

That, to me, would be better then a top 3 pick.

Duren will probably be gone before 10 which is a area i cant see us getting too. Hopefully we can still have a shot at a guy like Mark Williams possibly if we can grab one of those last lotto picks.

I'm telling you, have hope here as there are multiple, multiple reports that the Blazers, Pelicans, and Kings are trying to move, or are going to move their picks.

Having two picks in the top ten is good odds right now. Somebody is going to want to trade with Detroit, and the question is going to be "what is the cost?"

I just quoted you in the other thread on my prediction that makes the most sense to me without anyone getting bent over

[Manocad]

Well, clearly Shaedon's not a rocket scientist; those were about as leading as questions could get. And not that he needs to be as long as he understands the game and can put the ball in the hoop. But for me personally it doesn't exactly endear me further.

[breezypeezy]

Well, clearly Shaedon's not a rocket scientist; those were about as leading as questions could get. And not that he needs to be as long as he understands the game and can put the ball in the hoop. But for me personally it doesn't exactly endear me further.

Eh I'm kind of meh over his interview chops though.
Ever listen to a Iverson or Moses M interview? They definitely proved you don't need to be a rocket scientist to jam a ball through that hoop lol.

[buzzkilloton]

So did ESPN have Sharpe ranked ahead of guys like Wembanyama in next years draft?

Sharpe was the #1 high school prospect not draft prospect. Victor has been consensus 1 for this class since he had that breakout at 16. Victor might actually be the rare prospect called generational that ends up being it.

I posted this you likely remember it from last year. When Givony was saying this I knew this wasnt a normal prospect.

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[Jsindto]

So did ESPN have Sharpe ranked ahead of guys like Wembanyama in next years draft?

Wembanyama has been #1 since at least last year, and I think Scoot Henderson has been #2 since last year. Before reclassifying, Sharpe was looked at as that #3 guy on the early 2023 boards.

Wembanyama definitely goes #1 this year, and Henderson probably does this year too. He's really, really good. Ultra absurd athletic point guard.

*Reclassifying as in entering the 2022 draft.