2022 NBA Draft - Prospects Discussion

[emunney]

If we have the opportunity to trade up for Eason without losing Khris or Jrue and don't, I think we'll deeply regret it.

Yeah, crazy that I'm still seeing him in that 15-20 range in a lot of mocks. He's the guy who, if he hits his potential, is gonna completely unlock our switch-everything defense. He's this class's Herb Jones.

Saran wrap his right arm to his body for a summer and watch his development explode.

[Hoopz Afrik]

How do you all feel about Jaden Hardy if he were available at your pick?

[Ron Swanson]

Charlotte continues to be my favorite draft day trade partner. They have picks 13 and 15. I can't see them passing on Mark Williams if he's there in the late lotto, but beyond that, I can imagine their front office will aggressively be seeking win-now upgrades after back-to-back play-in losses. They drafted Bouknight last year but idk how much confidence they have in him based on the alleged attitude issues. So Grayson could be a really appealing piece to them.

Grayson + #24 + 2024 Portland 2nd for Mason Plumlee + #15

Could add an extra 2nd and re-route Plumlee to a 3rd team if needed. Oubre's salary ($13 million) works here too, but it's only partially guaranteed for $5 million, so they might view it as a valuable trade asset. I think if any of Eason, Sochan, or Branham are there at 15, it's worth it.

[machu46]

How do you all feel about Jaden Hardy if he were available at your pick?

I'm not interested in him at all personally.

[BigO]

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So not only was he mocked to Milwaukee in the Ringer and DX mocks, he's got a workout with the Bucks too.

Seems like a Horst pick. High floor low ceiling kind of guy. We need to draft for future talent and impact vs a plug and play guy that fits into Buds system

The future is now. It's a luxury to not need to swing for the fences in the draft. Production over potential with the goal of finding an immediate rotational player. Liddell checks those boxes for me.

I have no problem with Liddell. I just don't see Bud plugging and playing anybody. He hates younger players.

[skones]

I have no problem with Liddell. I just don't see Bud plugging and playing anybody. He hates younger players.

Like Donte Divincenzo who had a role in his rookie season from the jump? I don't know how we can say he hates younger players when our younger players have been ass. Your evidence is Elijah Bryant, Sam Merrill, Jordan Nwora, Mamadi Diakite, and Mamu. Three of those guys are out of the league right now.

[BigO]

Spoiler:

He looked like he was moving through quicksand in high school.

How would this extreme lack of athleticism and quickness not stood out in high level AAU vs other upper tier prospects?

I think he's lost some of his athleticism, but also, it did stand out against higher level teams. It sounds like he lit it up in HS but struggled to get by people on the AAU circuit and didn't shoot it very well from the perimeter either.

I watched him a lot in AAU ball and he moved fine. He was younger than everyone else on most of his AAU teams. His role when he played with Jalen Johnson and other great AAU teammates was to roam the three point line. But he was a good rebounder and his ball handling skills were solid.

My guess is that the ankle is a problem and has limited his ability to train. His shot is so pure (and yes I'm ignoring his UWM stats) that in the current NBA it would be tough to bypass him.

He isn't playing in the combine games, which is a mistake unless he was promised to be chosen by a team or his ankle is still on the mend. His workouts with teams will be critical.

[BigO]

I have no problem with Liddell. I just don't see Bud plugging and playing anybody. He hates younger players.

Like Donte Divincenzo who had a role in his rookie season from the jump? I don't know how we can say he hates younger players when our younger players have been ass. Your evidence is Elijah Bryant, Sam Merrill, Jordan Nwora, Mamadi Diakite, and Mamu. Three of those guys are out of the league right now.

When you have to make a point stating my evidence was Elijah Bryant, you've lost the argument.

He literally just sat Jevon Carter for an entire series, a player who was playing out of his mind in limited minutes, only because the all-pro George Hill was injured. Hill came back, stunk up the place and Carter still couldn't see the court in the two pivotal games where our 3 point shooting was horrible.

[BigO]

Charlotte continues to be my favorite draft day trade partner. They have picks 13 and 15. I can't see them passing on Mark Williams if he's there in the late lotto, but beyond that, I can imagine their front office will aggressively be seeking win-now upgrades after back-to-back play-in losses. They drafted Bouknight last year but idk how much confidence they have in him based on the alleged attitude issues. So Grayson could be a really appealing piece to them.

Grayson + #24 + 2024 Portland 2nd for Mason Plumlee + #15

Could add an extra 2nd and re-route Plumlee to a 3rd team if needed. Oubre's salary ($13 million) works here too, but it's only partially guaranteed for $5 million, so they might view it as a valuable trade asset. I think if any of Eason, Sochan, or Branham are there at 15, it's worth it.

I'd be on board on this one.

[BigO]

If we have the opportunity to trade up for Eason without losing Khris or Jrue and don't, I think we'll deeply regret it.

I watched Eason up close (3rd row) when he played in Milwaukee against Iowa State. I did love his defense, but he didn't show much offensive court sense . To be fair, none of the LSU players did.

I agree that it would be nice to have another switchable player on defense, although I'm skeptical it would make Bud give up the drop.

Eason's shot is kind of weird looking and may have to be changed. I'm all for 3 and D, but I don't see the three.

[Jimmmycrackcorn]

One other thing I would like the Bucks to get in this draft (if they keep the pick) would be some game-changing speed. Bones Hyland/Tyrese Maxey type on the ball speed.

That being said, Terquavion Smith is a guy I really like later in the first.

[Badgerlander]

If we have the opportunity to trade up for Eason without losing Khris or Jrue and don't, I think we'll deeply regret it.

Agreed

[skones]

I have no problem with Liddell. I just don't see Bud plugging and playing anybody. He hates younger players.

Like Donte Divincenzo who had a role in his rookie season from the jump? I don't know how we can say he hates younger players when our younger players have been ass. Your evidence is Elijah Bryant, Sam Merrill, Jordan Nwora, Mamadi Diakite, and Mamu. Three of those guys are out of the league right now.

When you have to make a point stating my evidence was Elijah Bryant, you've lost the argument.

He literally just sat Jevon Carter for an entire series, a player who was playing out of his mind in limited minutes, only because the all-pro George Hill was injured. Hill came back, stunk up the place and Carter still couldn't see the court in the two pivotal games where our 3 point shooting was horrible.

Lol, that's not how it works. You're not being reasonable in your response by simply announcing 'YOU LOSE!' when a legitimate point is being made. Carter is 26 years old and a journeyman. Grayson Allen is a month younger. You're not helping your cause. You threw out a pretty baseless, "He hates younger players," and that's all there is to it.

[Buck Dweller]

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[skones]

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He needs to put on 25 lbs, but he's got a lot going for him. He competes on the defensive end, he just can't handle the contact. Have a feeling he gets FAR more explosive when put through a training regiment. He's a stash guy though. Probably worthless year 1.

[SirChurros]

Taking him at #24 would be a stretch I think, but sign me up on Ron Harper Jr. Feel like he’s a big time player, always seemed to step up in clutch moments. Can obviously shoot it.

[M-C-G]

I'm good with Liddell. If there's a belief that he's our guy, well then, I believe it. He'll be our Grant Williams.

Here next for workout btw


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[SupremeHustle]

I want to be excited about this draft but our history tells me that whoever we pick has a greater chance of being out of the league than being a contributor.

[BigO]

Like Donte Divincenzo who had a role in his rookie season from the jump? I don't know how we can say he hates younger players when our younger players have been ass. Your evidence is Elijah Bryant, Sam Merrill, Jordan Nwora, Mamadi Diakite, and Mamu. Three of those guys are out of the league right now.

When you have to make a point stating my evidence was Elijah Bryant, you've lost the argument.

He literally just sat Jevon Carter for an entire series, a player who was playing out of his mind in limited minutes, only because the all-pro George Hill was injured. Hill came back, stunk up the place and Carter still couldn't see the court in the two pivotal games where our 3 point shooting was horrible.

Lol, that's not how it works. You're not being reasonable in your response by simply announcing 'YOU LOSE!' when a legitimate point is being made. Carter is 26 years old and a journeyman. Grayson Allen is a month younger. You're not helping your cause. You threw out a pretty baseless, "He hates younger players," and that's all there is to it.

And LOL doesn't make your point ether. Carter was 23 when he started in the NBA. He's now 26. In his brief time with the Bucks, he was shooting 56% on threes and over 50% overall. He was rejected by Bud in order to play George Hill, who was shooting 30% on threes and 43% overall.

Bud plays guys like Hill because he has a comfort level that he doesn't have with younger guys. Of course, he would never admit that or even know that, just like you. His answer will always be that he plays the guys he thinks will do the best job. The situation with Boston demanded he at least try Carter-comfort/ideology won out.

[skones]

When you have to make a point stating my evidence was Elijah Bryant, you've lost the argument.

He literally just sat Jevon Carter for an entire series, a player who was playing out of his mind in limited minutes, only because the all-pro George Hill was injured. Hill came back, stunk up the place and Carter still couldn't see the court in the two pivotal games where our 3 point shooting was horrible.

Lol, that's not how it works. You're not being reasonable in your response by simply announcing 'YOU LOSE!' when a legitimate point is being made. Carter is 26 years old and a journeyman. Grayson Allen is a month younger. You're not helping your cause. You threw out a pretty baseless, "He hates younger players," and that's all there is to it.

And LOL doesn't make your point ether. Carter was 23 when he started in the NBA. He's now 26. In his brief time with the Bucks, he was shooting 56% on threes and over 50% overall. He was rejected by Bud in order to play George Hill, who was shooting 30% on threes and 43% overall.

Bud plays guys like Hill because he has a comfort level that he doesn't have with younger guys. Of course, he would never admit that or even know that, just like you. His answer will always be that he plays the guys he thinks will do the best job. The situation with Boston demanded he at least try Carter-comfort/ideology won out.

Lets recap:
Bud hates young guys!
Theres not a whole lot of evidence to support that.
He didn't play Carter who's 26!
He played Grayston who's 26.
Carter was 23 once!



No, but the rest of what I said does. Who cares how old Carter was when he entered the league? He wasn't a Buck until he was 26. It's baffling that you'd actually think that's a detail that helps you. I'm not saying Carter shouldn't have been played. I've literally argued for it in other threads. What I am saying, is "Bud hates young guys" is just a stupid thing to say, and just another straw you've grabbed for your over the top, hyperbolic, anti Bud agenda.

No, you're right though, Bud hates young guys SO much that he built an entire game plan and culture around a guy who was 23 when he took over. My bad.