Postseason Thread 2022, ECFinals Version 1.0

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Here's Butler confirming what we've all known for a while, Butler is willingly passing out of easy shots at the rim to make "the right play" passing out to a teammate. I get passing out for an open 3 but you have to hit over 40% of your 3s to have it out value a shot at the basket at 60% or higher. It's simple math but maybe the more open looks for 3pt shooters can get those players in the groove where it helps them make other shots. There has to be some type of analytics to see those numbers and maybe Spoelstra/Butler has seen those numbers.

Being a dominate scorer is also a way to create open looks for his teammates and I'd wonder if consistent scoring by the team helps 3pt shooters more then just getting a few more open looks.

Watch on YouTube

I agree, you have the shot then take it. You’re the best player. The team feeds off you

100 40% 3s... 120 points.
100 60% layups... 120 points.

The big issue between these 2 different shots is you're lucky to hit high 40s with 3s, with layups you're able to shoot 80% or go to the line. You should take the much higher percentage layup/push shot anytime it's available.

Especially with Jimmy who’s always a threat to draw a foul off his physicality. He does it way different than Harden and Embiid

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Sure didn't seem like it, looked like Smart locked down whom ever he was guarding, played well rounded, and hit key shots. Showed a lot more of an impact than Kyle Lowry has shown in these playoffs or in the regular season.

He’s defense was good, I can’t deny that. He had a huge game back. Jimmy was cooking him though, he shot 80% against him.

What we saw last night was the best 3 point shooting game in conference finals history and we’ve just flat out forgot how to shoot. Plus the Bam offensive **** that hopefully gets fixed. Let’s hope they don’t have record breaking shooting every night

Smart defended Jimmy Butler well the last game.

https://sports.yahoo.com/marcus-smarts-return-sparks-celtics-in-east-finals-were-ready-for-the-challenge-160326192.html

Butler has had his way in these playoffs with many now regarding the star as the best overall player left in the postseason. The Heat star went for 41 points on an efficient 12-of-19 from the field in the first meeting with Smart in street clothes.

Butler still ended up with a game-high 29 points on 11-of-18 shooting on Thursday, but according to Second Spectrum, Smart defended Butler on 31 plays and held him to nine points.

Jimmy was playing passive trying to get others involved in the first half so I’d point to it being more of that. 80% shooting just tells me he should’ve attacked him more from the jump. Smart played a great game though and was a huge boost for you all, hopefully Lowry can do the same for us if/when he comes back

[Gant]

He’s defense was good, I can’t deny that. He had a huge game back. Jimmy was cooking him though, he shot 80% against him.

What we saw last night was the best 3 point shooting game in conference finals history and we’ve just flat out forgot how to shoot. Plus the Bam offensive **** that hopefully gets fixed. Let’s hope they don’t have record breaking shooting every night

Smart defended Jimmy Butler well the last game.

https://sports.yahoo.com/marcus-smarts-return-sparks-celtics-in-east-finals-were-ready-for-the-challenge-160326192.html

Butler has had his way in these playoffs with many now regarding the star as the best overall player left in the postseason. The Heat star went for 41 points on an efficient 12-of-19 from the field in the first meeting with Smart in street clothes.

Butler still ended up with a game-high 29 points on 11-of-18 shooting on Thursday, but according to Second Spectrum, Smart defended Butler on 31 plays and held him to nine points.

Jimmy was playing passive trying to get others involved in the first half so I’d point to it being more of that. 80% shooting just tells me he should’ve attacked him more from the jump. Smart played a great game though and was a huge boost for you all, hopefully Lowry can do the same for us if/when he comes back

Butler's been awesome so far. He's a great player.

[Vertical Limit]

Its hard to resist talking offseason when we are still in this…

But if im Bam and Herro, im calling my real estate agent and putting my South Beach ocean front home up for sale.. we arent paying max for Herro, and Bam has got to play up to standard. Youre the second highest paid player on the team, and yet youre probably the sixth most impactful player when youre not playing up to your size. You should be bullying Horford and Williams, they dont have your strength, skill or athleticism.

You out there looking like Mark Blount, it should be motivation enough to show everyone why you should be DPOY, by destroying these celtic noobs defensively in front of Smart.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Its hard to resist talking offseason when we are still in this…

But if im Bam and Herro, im calling my real estate agent and putting my South Beach ocean front home up for sale.. we arent paying max for Herro, and Bam has got to play up to standard. Youre the second highest paid player on the team, and yet youre probably the sixth most impactful player when youre not playing up to your size. You should be bullying Horford and Williams, they dont have your strength, skill or athleticism.

You out there looking like Mark Blount, it should be motivation enough to show everyone why you should be DPOY, by destroying these celtic noobs defensively in front of Smart.

He’s the 3rd highest impact player on the team at the absolute worst case. But yes he needs to score more

[jele]

Its hard to resist talking offseason when we are still in this…

But if im Bam and Herro, im calling my real estate agent and putting my South Beach ocean front home up for sale.. we arent paying max for Herro, and Bam has got to play up to standard. Youre the second highest paid player on the team, and yet youre probably the sixth most impactful player when youre not playing up to your size. You should be bullying Horford and Williams, they dont have your strength, skill or athleticism.

You out there looking like Mark Blount, it should be motivation enough to show everyone why you should be DPOY, by destroying these celtic noobs defensively in front of Smart.

People need to stop the narrative that Bam is an elite player. He is not more skillful than Horford nor Williams. The reality is that Bam is very but very limited offensively. He can't shoot from 3. He can't shoot from midrange. He does not have any post moves. He is too small to constantly match the physicality in the paint with 7 footers. He is not a great rebounder or shot blocker. So I think Bam is what he is and we are stuck with him as a max player. So please stop pretesnding that Bam is not playing up to his real potential. This is what he is.

[balla345]

Pritchard is outplaying Herro and Williams is outplaying bam. Two role players outplaying our 2/3 best players

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Its hard to resist talking offseason when we are still in this…

But if im Bam and Herro, im calling my real estate agent and putting my South Beach ocean front home up for sale.. we arent paying max for Herro, and Bam has got to play up to standard. Youre the second highest paid player on the team, and yet youre probably the sixth most impactful player when youre not playing up to your size. You should be bullying Horford and Williams, they dont have your strength, skill or athleticism.

You out there looking like Mark Blount, it should be motivation enough to show everyone why you should be DPOY, by destroying these celtic noobs defensively in front of Smart.

People need to stop the narrative that Bam is an elite player. He is not more skillful than Horford nor Williams. The reality is that Bam is very but very limited offensively. He can't shoot from 3. He can't shoot from midrange. He does not have any post moves. He is too small to constantly match the physicality in the paint with 7 footers. He is not a great rebounder or shot blocker. So I think Bam is what he is and we are stuck with him as a max player. So please stop pretesnding that Bam is not playing up to his real potential. This is what he is.

Watch on YouTube

“Can’t shoot”

“Isn’t skilled”

“Not a good rebounder or shot blocker”

“Very limited offensively”

“Does not have post moves”

Now factor in he just had the best jump shooting season of his career. Looks like some of you need to re-educate yourself. And that’s fine because apparently so do Bam and Spo.

Watch the video and see the array of moves he’s putting on guys like Giannis, Embiid, Gobert, etc before pulling up and netting a mid range jumper. Watch the isolation at the top of the key into a dribble drive into a step back jumper to win the game etc.

You all gotta stop talking about this dude like he’s Capela and Joel Anthony on offense. Both him and Spo need to wake the fuxk up before it’s too late. This dude can help Jimmy and give us a very efficient 20 a night.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Pritchard is outplaying Herro and Williams is outplaying bam. Two role players outplaying our 2/3 best players

Herro is our 4th or 5th best player at best but yes they need to step up, especially with our 3rd best player out

[Flash4thewin]

Pritchard is outplaying Herro and Williams is outplaying bam. Two role players outplaying our 2/3 best players

Herro is our 4th or 5th best player at best but yes they need to step up, especially with our 3rd best player out

Nah Herro is in the 2/3 range. Remember we are a team that struggles to score. He lead the team in scoring for a reason, more than Butler. We can clearly win games in the playoffs without Lowry. If Herro is not scoring we are not winning, its as simple as that.

[Beenie]

Pritchard is outplaying Herro and Williams is outplaying bam. Two role players outplaying our 2/3 best players

Last night felt like the Bucks series last year.

Seemed like their entire team had it going while Mia looked completely outclassed.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Pritchard is outplaying Herro and Williams is outplaying bam. Two role players outplaying our 2/3 best players

Herro is our 4th or 5th best player at best but yes they need to step up, especially with our 3rd best player out

Nah Herro is in the 2/3 range. Remember we are a team that struggles to score. He lead the team in scoring for a reason, more than Butler. We can clearly win games in the playoffs without Lowry. If Herro is not scoring we are not winning, its as simple as that.

Butler, Bam, and Lowry are all 100% better than Herro. Those aren’t even debatable. He led the team in scoring because he had the highest usage and took the most shots lol

[balla345]

I do agree Lowry looked really good and probably even our most important player . Lots of us forget how valuable he was because he’s been kinda garbage in the playoffs and hurt but he was balling all year

[spectrec130]

Its hard to resist talking offseason when we are still in this…

But if im Bam and Herro, im calling my real estate agent and putting my South Beach ocean front home up for sale.. we arent paying max for Herro, and Bam has got to play up to standard. Youre the second highest paid player on the team, and yet youre probably the sixth most impactful player when youre not playing up to your size. You should be bullying Horford and Williams, they dont have your strength, skill or athleticism.

You out there looking like Mark Blount, it should be motivation enough to show everyone why you should be DPOY, by destroying these celtic noobs defensively in front of Smart.

Based!

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I do agree Lowry looked really good and probably even our most important player . Lots of us forget how valuable he was because he’s been kinda garbage in the playoffs and hurt but he was balling all year

Not having our only true PG who happens to be a pretty damn good player is finally catching up to us a little

[3ballbomber]

Its hard to resist talking offseason when we are still in this…

But if im Bam and Herro, im calling my real estate agent and putting my South Beach ocean front home up for sale.. we arent paying max for Herro, and Bam has got to play up to standard. Youre the second highest paid player on the team, and yet youre probably the sixth most impactful player when youre not playing up to your size. You should be bullying Horford and Williams, they dont have your strength, skill or athleticism.

You out there looking like Mark Blount, it should be motivation enough to show everyone why you should be DPOY, by destroying these celtic noobs defensively in front of Smart.

People need to stop the narrative that Bam is an elite player. He is not more skillful than Horford nor Williams. The reality is that Bam is very but very limited offensively. He can't shoot from 3. He can't shoot from midrange. He does not have any post moves. He is too small to constantly match the physicality in the paint with 7 footers. He is not a great rebounder or shot blocker. So I think Bam is what he is and we are stuck with him as a max player. So please stop pretesnding that Bam is not playing up to his real potential. This is what he is.

Disagree. Bam has taken significantly leaps last 2 seasons. He's close to 20ppg player this season - Averaging a double-double. He's an elite defender - the best defender in the league imho. He simply is not playing to his level or capability currently.

I've mentioned it here several times already that Bam needs a mental coach. He is an elite player but w/ a mediocre mindset. This makes it difficult to be consistent w/ aggression. That's what we're witnessing w/ Bam. Mindset is everything. It differentiates the greats from the rest.

[3ballbomber]

Pritchard is outplaying Herro and Williams is outplaying bam. Two role players outplaying our 2/3 best players

Herro is our 4th or 5th best player at best but yes they need to step up, especially with our 3rd best player out

Nah Herro is in the 2/3 range. Remember we are a team that struggles to score. He lead the team in scoring for a reason, more than Butler. We can clearly win games in the playoffs without Lowry. If Herro is not scoring we are not winning, its as simple as that.

Yep, Herro was a key piece in our offence that scored when we needed pts which helped to win us balls games in reg season. It's what help allow us to achieve 1st seed. If we don't get close to a resemblance of that it will be tough for us the rest of the way. This ain't the Hawks or Philly. C's are legit & also in a revenge spot after we swept them in the bubble. Herro must look to be aggressive & find a way to be impactful.

As we head into the 3rd gm of the ECF it's becoming clearer that we need Lowry out there - another key piece that helped us achieve 1st seed. He makes us a better team, there's no denying that. It would help relieve Butler & play off the ball while Lowry plays the floor general & helps et up teammates. Interesting that he is now listed as questionable. I could see him suit up. But again if he's not close to 100% he'll only be a detriment to the team.

[3ballbomber]

Herro & bam have been called out heavily by just about everybody. If we knew they weren't capable doubt anybody would bother. They've shown to be both special players & simply not showing it when matters most. Thus comes the criticism.

Interesting though when Perk says for Spo to loosen the handcuffs a bit on Herro, suggesting the issue cld be a coach thing too. Which I cld understand watching Herro play - He wld rather make the right play than force the issue. That cld be the directives by Spo. Interesting to see the approach for gm3 for both Tyler & Bam.



https://heatnation.com/videos/amare-stoudemire-crushes-tyler-herro-for-not-being-same-bubble-player/

“Where’s his focus?” Stoudemire said of Herro. “He wants to wear the shades. He wants to have his back out in the press conference. He wants to do the gun show. He wants all this entertainment stuff, but where is the focus on basketball?”

regular season is where you can become a star. Playoffs is where you can be a super star

[3ballbomber]

Read on Twitter

[Rapaz]

Good for Bum.

2nd team all-defense
1st team no-offense