Official Celtics 2022 Off-Season Thread

[playa-hater]

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Fierce1 was right all along...

OH NO You didn't

you best "duck" for cover..

[keevsnick1]

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Words cannot describe how annoying I find stats like this. I draw the line at three variables. If you needs to use five search terms to get a stat our stat is dumb.

Good for Smart, he's played well, but come on man.

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Words cannot describe how annoying I find stats like this. I draw the line at three variables. If you needs to use five search terms to get a stat our stat is dumb.

Good for Smart, he's played well, but come on man.

The block stat is silly. I wonder who they excluded by putting that in, whether old timer or since blocks started being counted. But the A/TO is genuinely impressive, while the points and rebounds confirm "not just a distributor".

[Smart2Nesmith43]

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Words cannot describe how annoying I find stats like this. I draw the line at three variables. If you needs to use five search terms to get a stat our stat is dumb.

Good for Smart, he's played well, but come on man.

Yeah not a big fan of just adding variables with super arbitrary cutoffs until you get the result you want aka doing a Thad Young graphic:

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Words cannot describe how annoying I find stats like this. I draw the line at three variables. If you needs to use five search terms to get a stat our stat is dumb.

Good for Smart, he's played well, but come on man.

Yeah not a big fan of just adding variables with super arbitrary cutoffs until you get the result you want aka doing a Thad Young graphic:

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I don't think anything on the Smart list was as bad as 30% 3pt shooting.

[moonie_mcgee]

Get Mo Bamba in here.
Scal commented on his perceived lack of dedication.
But that's Orlando. I don't believe in geographical cures.
But get Bamba with BS, Ime and Gang Green, and there's
your young stretchy rim protector.
That's the ticket yo

[Parliament10]

Get Mo Bamba in here.
Scal commented on his perceived lack of dedication.
But that's Orlando. I don't believe in geographical cures.
But get Bamba with BS, Ime and Gang Green, and there's
your young stretchy rim protector.
That's the ticket yo

Yes. I'd do that. -- I think that a Change would do the Kid good.
He's never been to the Playoffs, in 4 Years with Orlando???

[BK_2020]

Get Mo Bamba in here.
Scal commented on his perceived lack of dedication.
But that's Orlando. I don't believe in geographical cures.
But get Bamba with BS, Ime and Gang Green, and there's
your young stretchy rim protector.
That's the ticket yo

Yeah getting a bunch of people who failed elsewhere and have shown lack of dedication is the way to spend scarce resources. While we're at it, let's go get Marvin Bagley and Bol Bol, too.

[leper-con]

The no bamba ship has sailed
Lots of. Better bigs out there

[moonie_mcgee]

Get Mo Bamba in here.
Scal commented on his perceived lack of dedication.
But that's Orlando. I don't believe in geographical cures.
But get Bamba with BS, Ime and Gang Green, and there's
your young stretchy rim protector.
That's the ticket yo

Yeah getting a bunch of people who failed elsewhere and have shown lack of dedication is the way to spend scarce resources. While we're at it, let's go get Marvin Bagley and Bol Bol, too.

Ha haha ha not a bunch of people.
One person. A Mo Bamba flyer.
What's the matter? Where's the risk?

[moonie_mcgee]

The no bamba ship has sailed
Lots of. Better bigs out there

No doubt but where are the available low risk high reward guys that could connect with our guys.

[24istheLAW]

Ha haha ha not a bunch of people.
One person. A Mo Bamba flyer.
What's the matter? Where's the risk?

A flier (min salary, first year gtd, second year non-guaranteed) would be nice but it isn't a realistic option.

The Celtics have:
-The taxpayer MLE ($6.3m)
-Misc. trade exceptions to use in trades
-2-way slots

So you're offering a two-way deal to Bamba. He can probably do better than that.

The no bamba ship has sailed
Lots of. Better bigs out there

No doubt but where are the available low risk high reward guys that could connect with our guys.

If we're going to kick the tires on underachievers with upside, I think you can find some guys who'll actually come at a flier price, and have similar odds of contributing to Bamba if not better.

He's been around the block, but DJ Wilson is intriguing. He's hurt right now. More of an effective defensive big than Bamba and he's shown stretch upside. He's also much more likely to sign a 2-way or nongtd deal.

[BK_2020]

Get Mo Bamba in here.
Scal commented on his perceived lack of dedication.
But that's Orlando. I don't believe in geographical cures.
But get Bamba with BS, Ime and Gang Green, and there's
your young stretchy rim protector.
That's the ticket yo

Yeah getting a bunch of people who failed elsewhere and have shown lack of dedication is the way to spend scarce resources. While we're at it, let's go get Marvin Bagley and Bol Bol, too.

Ha haha ha not a bunch of people.
One person. A Mo Bamba flyer.
What's the matter? Where's the risk?

You waste a roster spot that can go to a G-leaguer.
It's a small amount of opportunity cost all things considered but the expected benefit is also extremely small. Why bother? Just sign a Javonte Green or a Max Strus instead.

[moonie_mcgee]

Yeah getting a bunch of people who failed elsewhere and have shown lack of dedication is the way to spend scarce resources. While we're at it, let's go get Marvin Bagley and Bol Bol, too.

Ha haha ha not a bunch of people.
One person. A Mo Bamba flyer.
What's the matter? Where's the risk?

You waste a roster spot that can go to a G-leaguer.
It's a small amount of opportunity cost all things considered but the expected benefit is also extremely small. Why bother? Just sign a Javonte Green or a Max Strus instead.

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A G leaguer? Next season, Celts need 1 if not 2 rotation stretchy rim protectors.

[AgentGreen]

I wouldn't mind Derrick Rose. Could be a great one two punch with White from the bench. Both of them can handle the ball pretty good and Derrick Rose is a plus on the offensive side, he would add an extra dimension to our rotation.

[keevsnick1]

All 5 Celtics post season losses have been unique in some way:

G1 MIL: Brown goes 4-13, team shoots 33% from the field.
G3 MIL: Tatum goes 4-19, team shoots 27% from three, Horford late on tip by .2 seconds.
G5 MIL: Celtics blow 14 point 4th quarter lead by scoring only 9 points in final 8:15 of game.

G1 MIA: Celtics lose the 3rd quarter 39-14, literally one of the most lopsided quarters in their storied playoff history.
G3 MIA: Tatum 3-14, C's lose first quarter 39-18, C's commit 23 turnovers most in playoffs this year.

The c's don't lose normally, they lose in spectacular fashion.

[Bostondave]

Yes, and "spectacular" not in the good sense of that word. I think they've broken something in me with this squad. 50+ years I'm still a fan but something is broken with me. Can't really describe it completely but it has elements of confidence and enthusiasm that have taken a blow with this team. I've never seen a Celts squad like this in all my years. Incredible highs and incredible, again not in the good sense of that word, lows.

This core is experienced and veteran. They've been here before. So it's maddening and frustrating no end. The wild swings should not be happening at this point. Except for perhaps two explanations. Not excuses, but explanations.

One is it seems clear Tatum isn't really the kind of superstar that can carry a team. He's not much more than a glorified streak shooter that gets incredibly hot. I've seen quite a few of them in my days.

Another is it seems clear the sum of what Timelord brings is way way more than his part with the team. So, perhaps someone can help me piece this part together. Are the incredible highs when he is in the lineup, and the terrible lows happening when he's not? Last nite for instance he was out and we witnessed some of the most putrid Celtics playoff basketball in the 1st half I can ever remember seeing. How about the other games? I can't piece it all together myself with him being in then being out, team being up then being down. Do they coincide?

[sam_I_am]

Yes, and "spectacular" not in the good sense of that word. I think they've broken something in me with this squad. 50+ years I'm still a fan but something is broken with me. Can't really describe it completely but it has elements of confidence and enthusiasm that have taken a blow with this team. I've never seen a Celts squad like this in all my years. Incredible highs and incredible, again not in the good sense of that word, lows.

This core is experienced and veteran. They've been here before. So it's maddening and frustrating no end. The wild swings should not be happening at this point. Except for perhaps two explanations. Not excuses, but explanations.

One is it seems clear Tatum isn't really the kind of superstar that can carry a team. He's not much more than a glorified streak shooter that gets incredibly hot. I've seen quite a few of them in my days.

Another is it seems clear the sum of what Timelord brings is way way more than his part with the team. So, perhaps someone can help me piece this part together. Are the incredible highs when he is in the lineup, and the terrible lows happening when he's not? Last nite for instance he was out and we witnessed some of the most putrid Celtics playoff basketball in the 1st half I can ever remember seeing. How about the other games? I can't piece it all together myself with him being in then being out, team being up then being down. Do they coincide?

I agree with a lot of what you say until you trashed Tatum. Tatum at age 24 has been the best player on 3 ECF teams at age 24. Please share with me the ‘quite a few’ like that you have seen in your day. I’m really interested to find out.

[BK_2020]

One is it seems clear Tatum isn't really the kind of superstar that can carry a team. He's not much more than a glorified streak shooter that gets incredibly hot. I've seen quite a few of them in my days.

Tatum has had arguably only 2 bad games in this playoff, the most recent game and game 3 of Milwaukee series. He struggled with scoring efficiency in the game of 2 of the Nets series but had 10 assists. He scored 29 or more in 8 of 14 games. The Tatum is inconsistent meme needs to end.

[sam_I_am]

One is it seems clear Tatum isn't really the kind of superstar that can carry a team. He's not much more than a glorified streak shooter that gets incredibly hot. I've seen quite a few of them in my days.

Tatum has had arguably only 2 bad games in this playoff, the most recent game and game 3 of Milwaukee series. He struggled with scoring efficiency in the game of 2 of the Nets series but had 10 assists. He scored 29 or more in 8 of 14 games. The Tatum is inconsistent meme needs to end.

Tatum is averaging 33 ppg following a loss. I’ve seen this a few times in my days. Havlicek 29 ppg in 1972, 1974. Bird 29 ppg 1987.