Around the NBA: 2021-22 Season Thread

[NetsWorld]

It is reassuring knowing the league has a good amount of young talent. I'd like to see a Celtics - Mavericks finals.

I don't know what's more embarrassing, Celtics winning a ring after decimating KD and the Nets or Steph winning another ring without KD. KD's dumbass got so comfortable with Kyrie that his reputation may be "temporarily" blemished by a potential second Curry ring without Mr. You know who I am. Good job Kevin, keep hooping for fun and let Kyrie do what he wants as us Nets fans have to endure this crap. Udoka/D'Antoni left this crapola of an organization because it was player driven. Proky seems quiet these days.

KD really let Kyrie tarnish his legacy.

To me, it would be more fun winning championships as opposed to just hooping for the hell of it, but that's what KD wants to do these days.

Three years, and absolutely nothing to show for it. He'll be 34 next season. Meanwhile, Giannis and Tatum aren't even near their peak levels. Luka just put the NBA on notice. You think a KD/Kyrie led team is beating any of these guys?

We're cooked

The recipe is there for the taking, question is will Nets capitalize or fold to their players' demands? Nets need more size, youth and a better coaching scheme. If the Nets can somehow get back to their 20-21 season roster with a better overall coaching staff, they most certainly can and will beat those teams. No one was raving about the Mavs or Celtics last season, but coaching and culture totally changed that this year. My gut told me this past off season was a disaster and losing Udoka/D'anoni didn't help.

[MGrand15]

The KD slander in here is sick. Only thing he's guilty of is NOT throwing his teammate and coach under the bus. The guy was terrible in the playoffs but he played his heart out all season. No doubt about that. Basically an MVP level season.

The lesson I'm seeing from the playoffs is that our roster construction was a complete disaster. Our offensive system was a complete disaster. Dallas, Miami, Memphis have been able to win shorthanded because they space the floor and let their stars + roleplayers shine. They also have a ton of wing depth + bigs that can shoot and defend. We had none of that.

Don't understand KD getting the blame for these things. Marks/Tsai chose to cater to Kyrie. Marks/Tsai chose to give Nash the 2nd biggest contract in the league. Marks/Tsai let the culture unravel. All I know is KD plays his heart out when he's on the floor, constantly lifts up his teammates, always takes the blame, his work ethic is unmatched, he plays as much as he can, and has the respect of all his peers.

[MrDollarBills]

The KD slander in here is sick. Only thing he's guilty of is NOT throwing his teammate and coach under the bus. The guy was terrible in the playoffs but he played his heart out all season. No doubt about that. Basically an MVP level season.

The lesson I'm seeing from the playoffs is that our roster construction was a complete disaster. Our offensive system was a complete disaster. Dallas, Miami, Memphis have been able to win shorthanded because they space the floor and let their stars + roleplayers shine. They also have a ton of wing depth + bigs that can shoot and defend. We had none of that.

Don't understand KD getting the blame for these things. Marks/Tsai chose to cater to Kyrie. Marks/Tsai chose to give Nash the 2nd biggest contract in the league. Marks/Tsai let the culture unravel. All I know is KD plays his heart out when he's on the floor, constantly lifts up his teammates, always takes the blame, his work ethic is unmatched, he plays as much as he can, and has the respect of all his peers.

KD is the leader of this team and no one is taking away anything that he has done this season, but he owns this situation just like the other culprits.

He says that the team wasn't displaying championship habits under Kenny, yet what championship habits have we seen under Nash? He signed off on Nash, and basically is the guy protecting Kyrie from Marks and Tsai.

Our roster construction is terrible, and our coaching is non existent. Those are bigger issues than KD going down in flames in the playoffs, but I can't help but be concerned if this is the start of a downward trend for him.

[MrDollarBills]

Did anyone see the footage of Kidd mic'd up last night? now that was some serious coaching. He completely neutered Devin Booker.

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[MrDollarBills]

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[gigantes]

Holy *^!@*&# fluffle-burgers, what a season by Luka, Kidd, and that team.

The past offseason, Luka's all but anointed by the press as the next MVP, then comes in out of shape and inefficient. Kidd is widely viewed as a 'turrible' coach, ripe for the chopping block ASAP. And now this...

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Like... MAN... I can't remember the last time I've seen a duo outright mess with peoples' heads like this.

It's deja vu, last time it was same team led by Carlisle and Dirk. No one gave them chance until they spanked KD, Kobe and LBJ to win the chip.

It's actually considerably different to me.

For example, Luka's only 23, still improving, while Dirk was in his late prime. Kidd is a brand new coach still learning how to do it, who few people took seriously as a HC, while Carlisle was a well-respected HC who'd been coaching for decades. Those Mavs may not have been title favorites, but they were still an elite team who nobody in their right mind would just write off. But yeah, still an awesome run, capped off by teaching the adolescent, snickering duo of Wade & LeBron what professionalism looks like.

Meanwhile, Kidd & Luka still have a crazy uphill climb to win a title this year. I'll be thrilled if they upset the Dubs, not to mention the Celtics knock off the Heat. Must be losing my mind here, but I'll be happy-enough for Ime and the J's if they win it all. Not a Boston lover, but somehow just as an NBA fan it's a bit saddening seeing a young, elite team like that go down in flames every season for like... 6-7 seasons in a row.

[MrDollarBills]

It's crazy how much better the Celtics and Heat are than us.

The Heat are getting beat but they look way better than we did against adversity.

[Jay555]

It's crazy how much better the Celtics and Heat are than us.

The Heat are getting beat but they look way better than we did against adversity.

Nah, we did not even get blown out by 30+ at home.

Side note: lme..How good is this dude!!

[GTR11]

It's crazy how much better the Celtics and Heat are than us.

The Heat are getting beat but they look way better than we did against adversity.

Nah, we did not even get blown out by 30+ at home.

Side note: lme..How good is this dude!!

Ime also being groomed by Brad, don't get that twisted. Also, this is not a shot at Ime or me trying to downplay what he established as a HC. Just saying he's a willing learner and pretty good at it.

[Karate Diop]

It's crazy how much better the Celtics and Heat are than us.

The Heat are getting beat but they look way better than we did against adversity.

They're better coached and consistently compete... But when this team decided to show up they were always able to compete with them.

There's an accountability and effort issue that Brooklyn needs to fix. Guys have to come every night with an edge.

[ArksNetsSince99]

It's crazy how much better the Celtics and Heat are than us.

The Heat are getting beat but they look way better than we did against adversity.

They're better coached and consistently compete... But when this team decided to show up they were always able to compete with them.

There's an accountability and effort issue that Brooklyn needs to fix. Guys have to come every night with an edge.

There is 0 accountability between Marks-Nash-KD-Kai ,and it’s not gonna miraculously change upcoming season

Marks is a puppet

Nash is Trash

KD is a baller but not a leader , vocal leader

Kai is a baller IF he plays ,but more often he decides to be a head case

So to answer to your post , guys wont come every night with an edge , nothing gonna change until Marks and Nash is co bus drivers

[ArksNetsSince99]

Did anyone see the footage of Kidd mic'd up last night? now that was some serious coaching. He completely neutered Devin Booker.

I believe Kidd is by now a solid HC much improved version of himself compared to Nets/Bucks days who could run circles around Nash easily

After all you don’t get to be bus driver in Cuban favorite toy by being dumb and under qualified

On the other hand in Tsai Toys anybody can be a HC , raise your hand and you get it

[MrDollarBills]

Spencer is balling. We should have never traded away our homegrown players. Tsai is paying a massive luxury tax bill for three idiots. We could have had 2 idiots, an all star center, a decent wing, and a good PG plus Joe Harris when healthy

Marks f*cked up.

[gigantes]

Spencer is balling. We should have never traded away our homegrown players. Tsai is paying a massive luxury tax bill for three idiots. We could have had 2 idiots, an all star center, a decent wing, and a good PG plus Joe Harris when healthy

Marks f*cked up.

Totally.

Also, not sure I've ever seen this discussed, but I think Marks may have rebuilt too quickly for his own good. I mean, his creativity in finding extra picks was always an awesome thing, but in trying to ramp up too quickly, it also meant that *just* when the Nets' own #1's were reappearing on the table, the team was too good for those picks to be all that great, meaning we lost precious opportunities at homegrown superstars to build around. I.e. the way most championship and long-time contending teams are built.

By contrast, nobody expected the Nets to get so good so fast, so Marks wouldn't have lost much respect running out bottom rung teams in the interim. Sign some long-term project players, maybe a couple hotshot players for short-term contracts so that the team would at least be fun to watch... whatever. The stakes were low as could be. Meanwhile, the creative picks he was able to snag could have been set for post 2019-2020, not the mid-to-late 2010's.

That said, I can't really hold the quick turnaround against Marks. It was the most fun I'd had in years as a fan. And of course, directly based on the disastrous Prokhy/King/Razumov 'win now' plan.

Pretty surreal though that via the dreadful Harden trade, Marks wound up replicating a nauseatingly large chunk of the former regime.

At least the two idiots didn't cost any resources, and could have been moved on from as appropriate.

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[NyCeEvO]

I hope Marks is paying attention to these playoffs. A lot of teams are selling out to stop superstars. They're not respecting average shooters. They're not respecting guys who can't score. And it doesn't matter how good your star is - your offense needs to be creative and keep these teams off balance.

The Sixers have some solid shooters on their team. Harden, Embiid, Maxey, Tobias, Green, Niang. Miami was still straight up triple teaming Embiid + Harden.

If we're serious about winning a chip, we need shooters everywhere. Miami only plays 2 guys who can't shoot 3s - Jimmy and Bam who are great from midrange. Milwaukee only plays Giannis. Boston only plays Robert Williams. If Ben is going to be a core player for us, we need to triple down on shooting. We need to find a starting level center who can shoot. That needs to be priority 1 this offseason.

Marks shouldn’t have needed to watch the playoffs to know this. I’ve been adamant about the need for 3&D players on the team for several seasons. I just stopped talking about it because it was clear that Marks didn’t think it was important. If it gets those players now, great…but it’s still three seasons too late.

[MrDollarBills]

I hope Marks is paying attention to these playoffs. A lot of teams are selling out to stop superstars. They're not respecting average shooters. They're not respecting guys who can't score. And it doesn't matter how good your star is - your offense needs to be creative and keep these teams off balance.

The Sixers have some solid shooters on their team. Harden, Embiid, Maxey, Tobias, Green, Niang. Miami was still straight up triple teaming Embiid + Harden.

If we're serious about winning a chip, we need shooters everywhere. Miami only plays 2 guys who can't shoot 3s - Jimmy and Bam who are great from midrange. Milwaukee only plays Giannis. Boston only plays Robert Williams. If Ben is going to be a core player for us, we need to triple down on shooting. We need to find a starting level center who can shoot. That needs to be priority 1 this offseason.

Marks shouldn’t have needed to watch the playoffs to know this. I’ve been adamant about the need for 3&D players on the team for several seasons. I just stopped talking about it because it was clear that Marks didn’t think it was important. If it gets those players now, great…but it’s still three seasons too late.

we need perimeter length and shooting across the board, as well as a guard who can run "the offense".

the more i think about it the more I hate this team. I wish we could get rid of Kyrie and use his cap number on guys that fit a need. Kyrie to me isn't even that great after how I saw him just give up versus Boston. I'd rather have KD, Ben and 3+D players as opposed to Kyrie's part time ass

[GTR11]

So Philthy traded for Jimmy and lost assets.

Lost him for nothing

Gave Toby max

Traded for Harden in order to replicate what Jimmy brought years prior. Now stuck with dilemma giving him supermax.

I'm not sure how their excuses sound now, but definitely going to drop them questions later in their board.

[Shark]

The man we hired to be an assistant/babysitter for our 'out of his depth' coach is taking his team to the championship in his first season in charge.