Wiggins just ended Doncic's life

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Re: I’ll just leave this here.. 

Post#81 » by multo » Mon May 23, 2022 6:34 am

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alevirfe wrote:does one big game really makeup for a disappointing career? seems like a bit of an overreaction and I wouldn't be surprised if the doubters have the last laugh here

Wiggins is in the tough position of having to live up to the expectations that come with being a #1 pick (and egregious contract). even if he's become a solid starter & contributor, he's always be underperforming in many people's eyes

15/6.6/1.6 on 56% TS for the playoffs

Wiggins has been the most consistent player for the Warriors in this post season. Why are you looking at his offensive output when it's his defense and rebounding which are his main focus? He's only the 4th option on offense so I believe he's giving them a lot more than what's expected offensively. And he is delivering on both.


sure, but a player at his salary that carries the #1 pick stigma should be doing much more than playing defense & rebounding if we're going to reevaluate his "bust" status. this is a pretty low bar IMO

Again, it's all about what he must do for the team to win, and he is doing exactly that. He doesn't need to do too much offensively and so far he does anyway. And his team is winning so what's there to argue?
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Re: Wiggins just ended Doncic's life 

Post#82 » by tsherkin » Mon May 23, 2022 6:34 am

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Dupp wrote:Why wasn’t this an offensive foul?


Why would it be? Luka jumped up from the restricted zone while Wiggins was already airborne. Where's the foul? This is every poster dunk anyone has ever seen since that became a thing.


Just because you go up from the restricted zone, it doesn't automatically make it a defensive foul. I didn't see the relevant reply, but Wiggins supposedly got him in the throat area with his off hand. Maybe he didn't, I don't know, but I don't think the restricted area is in play here.


Mmm, yeah if they thought he hit Doncic in the throat, then the review would make plenty of sense.
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Re: Wiggins just ended Doncic's life 

Post#83 » by radtech » Mon May 23, 2022 6:36 am

Luka faked head snapped back, multiple angles showed no foul, yes contact, but Luka way over reacted. League knows he's a flopper, complainer, and after watching a vid of what he said to Wiggins, calling him a b*tch, Luis career will mirrored Barkley, no championships. Scoring titles, whiner, but a general loser, just plain fake, try playing some defense, you stupid b@tch
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Re: Wiggins just ended Doncic's life 

Post#84 » by Slava » Mon May 23, 2022 6:37 am

Can't tell if its an off arm push by Wiggins or a Luka flop or both but sick dunk though.
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Re: I’ll just leave this here.. 

Post#85 » by xdrta+ » Mon May 23, 2022 6:37 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:GS did the smart thiing in turning KD's contract into being able to keep essentially one more max spot than every other team has because they can afford it. Wiggins is way way way overpaid, and looking at him as a $30 million dollar player that stops you from having another max player, he would be a massive waste.

But the Warriors still have all 3 of their max guys, and they have good young talent too. Wiggins salary didn't stop them from any of their goals, other than the ownership paying a massive fee. It's a unique situation. He's still a huge disappointment and waste of dollars if you could just replace his $30 million with another guy of similar salary or a few guys that are similar level but much lower paid.. but that's not how it works. All those things might be true, but he's not a net negative as a role player, and he's a better player than salary dumping and signing a minimum guy. So as long as the ownership is willing to pay him, he doesn't impede anything they do.


You've actually watched these playoffs and believe that Wiggins is a huge disappointment? :crazy:
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Re: Wiggins just ended Doncic's life 

Post#86 » by Johnny Firpo » Mon May 23, 2022 6:37 am

radtech wrote:Luka faked head snapped back, multiple angles showed no foul, yes contact, but Luka way over reacted. League knows he's a flopper, complainer, and after watching a vid of what he said to Wiggins, calling him a b*tch, Luis career will mirrored Barkley, no championships. Scoring titles, whiner, but a general loser, just plain fake, try playing some defense, you stupid b@tch


Haha, not a fan I guess. :D
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Re: Wiggins just ended Doncic's life 

Post#87 » by shza » Mon May 23, 2022 6:38 am

On the slow-mo review they showed on Inside, it’s pretty clear it was a pure, shameless flop. No touch to the face and Luka grabs his face in fake pain lol. Made the poster even more embarrassing.
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Re: Wiggins just ended Doncic's life 

Post#88 » by Sgt Major » Mon May 23, 2022 6:41 am

I'm sick of Luka's flopping. Just stop.
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Post#89 » by timO » Mon May 23, 2022 6:43 am

Hes been trash for a Max contract guy
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Re: I’ll just leave this here.. 

Post#90 » by NO-KG-AI » Mon May 23, 2022 6:43 am

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NO-KG-AI wrote:GS did the smart thiing in turning KD's contract into being able to keep essentially one more max spot than every other team has because they can afford it. Wiggins is way way way overpaid, and looking at him as a $30 million dollar player that stops you from having another max player, he would be a massive waste.

But the Warriors still have all 3 of their max guys, and they have good young talent too. Wiggins salary didn't stop them from any of their goals, other than the ownership paying a massive fee. It's a unique situation. He's still a huge disappointment and waste of dollars if you could just replace his $30 million with another guy of similar salary or a few guys that are similar level but much lower paid.. but that's not how it works. All those things might be true, but he's not a net negative as a role player, and he's a better player than salary dumping and signing a minimum guy. So as long as the ownership is willing to pay him, he doesn't impede anything they do.


You've actually watched these playoffs and believe that Wiggins is a huge disappointment? :crazy:


As a max or near max player? Absolutely. He's making the same amount of money as Joel Embiid, and he's making more than Chris Paul, Nikola Jokic, Bam, Tatum, Jaylen Brown, Draymond Green, etc lol. He's making more money than something like Dejounte Murray and Robert Covington combined.

Like I said though, that hurts any other team and their cap situation except for probably GS.
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Post#91 » by garrick » Mon May 23, 2022 6:48 am

Frankly I'm just so sick of basketball "experts" who clearly don't watch enough basketball games and are on TV just for their stupid hot takes.

Nick Wright is a good example of a moron who gets paid to make bold predictions based on nothing but his gut feeling which usually turn out to be incorrect.
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Re: Wiggins just ended Doncic's life 

Post#92 » by tsherkin » Mon May 23, 2022 6:51 am

Slava wrote:Can't tell if its an off arm push by Wiggins or a Luka flop or both but sick dunk though.


It really was a nasty one.
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Re: I’ll just leave this here.. 

Post#93 » by Impuniti » Mon May 23, 2022 6:51 am

alevirfe wrote:does one big game really makeup for a disappointing career? seems like a bit of an overreaction and I wouldn't be surprised if the doubters have the last laugh here

Wiggins is in the tough position of having to live up to the expectations that come with being a #1 pick (and egregious contract). even if he's become a solid starter & contributor, he's always be underperforming in many people's eyes

15/6.6/1.6 on 56% TS for the playoffs

He doesn't have that pressure. During the PS, he needs to play tough D, grab rebounds, and be anywhere between the 2nd to 4th best player any given night depending how Klay or Jordan is feeling. He's doing that, that's what the team wants, and that's all there is. The media pressure is just noise that gets funneled through Steph.

He's in the perfect place for him now and hopefully for several years onwards. My guess is he takes a nice discount a year from now to make it all work.
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Re: Wiggins just ended Doncic's life 

Post#94 » by Zvaart » Mon May 23, 2022 6:52 am

TheNewEra wrote:Dunk and the flop it was all so beautiful together


'T was good.

Sgt Major wrote:I'm sick of Luka's flopping. Just stop.


Dude, in Dallas even old ladies flop on the sidelines, you didn't see?
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Re: Wiggins just ended Doncic's life 

Post#95 » by Perseus1966 » Mon May 23, 2022 6:53 am

SNPA wrote:
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SNPA wrote:Show another angle. I’m always open to new evidence.


Way to deflect.

What?

The OP shows Wiggins reach out and contact Luka who is straight up. You can see Wiggins elbow go into Luka’s armpit area and crumple flesh, Luka goes flying off and Wiggins slides by for the dunk. Cool dunk, but from that angle a foul. Any reasonable fan can see that. If that angle is deceptive, and it could very well be, then let’s see it. That’s the opposite of deflection my man. It’s a request for evidence. I’m not even a GS or Mavs fan.

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Re: I’ll just leave this here.. 

Post#96 » by Impuniti » Mon May 23, 2022 6:53 am

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NO-KG-AI wrote:GS did the smart thiing in turning KD's contract into being able to keep essentially one more max spot than every other team has because they can afford it. Wiggins is way way way overpaid, and looking at him as a $30 million dollar player that stops you from having another max player, he would be a massive waste.

But the Warriors still have all 3 of their max guys, and they have good young talent too. Wiggins salary didn't stop them from any of their goals, other than the ownership paying a massive fee. It's a unique situation. He's still a huge disappointment and waste of dollars if you could just replace his $30 million with another guy of similar salary or a few guys that are similar level but much lower paid.. but that's not how it works. All those things might be true, but he's not a net negative as a role player, and he's a better player than salary dumping and signing a minimum guy. So as long as the ownership is willing to pay him, he doesn't impede anything they do.


You've actually watched these playoffs and believe that Wiggins is a huge disappointment? :crazy:

He hopes Golden State losses every time and is the most hilariously bitter ex moderator on here, so I'm not surprised he's caught in his feelings especially tonight. :lol:
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Re: I’ll just leave this here.. 

Post#97 » by whatisacenter » Mon May 23, 2022 6:56 am

some seriously terrible basketball IQ in this thread. Warriors aren't winning without Wiggins playing the way he is on both sides of the court and on the glass. Even when Luka scores when Wiggins is guarding him it is a tough shot and you just have to tip your cap to him. Wiggs has been tenacious and tireless this whole series.
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Re: I’ll just leave this here.. 

Post#98 » by NO-KG-AI » Mon May 23, 2022 6:57 am

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xdrta+ wrote:
NO-KG-AI wrote:GS did the smart thiing in turning KD's contract into being able to keep essentially one more max spot than every other team has because they can afford it. Wiggins is way way way overpaid, and looking at him as a $30 million dollar player that stops you from having another max player, he would be a massive waste.

But the Warriors still have all 3 of their max guys, and they have good young talent too. Wiggins salary didn't stop them from any of their goals, other than the ownership paying a massive fee. It's a unique situation. He's still a huge disappointment and waste of dollars if you could just replace his $30 million with another guy of similar salary or a few guys that are similar level but much lower paid.. but that's not how it works. All those things might be true, but he's not a net negative as a role player, and he's a better player than salary dumping and signing a minimum guy. So as long as the ownership is willing to pay him, he doesn't impede anything they do.


You've actually watched these playoffs and believe that Wiggins is a huge disappointment? :crazy:

He hopes Golden State losses every time and is the most hilariously bitter ex moderator on here, so I'm not surprised he's caught in his feelings especially tonight. :lol:


How is that bitter lmao? Golden State won that trade in hilarious fashion, both by getting a pick for a young guy with a ton of talent, and by keeping a max spot with a player who has been a positive starter for them. Wiggins being a disappointment as a player and max contract is irrelevant to Golden State.

Learn to read without being butthurt all the time. What about tonight would make me extra bitter? I had no reason to believe Dallas was a real threat to GS at all, nothing changed tonight.

Ps: I hate the Warriors, but I love to hate the Warriors and root against them because they're consistently pretty awesome. I'll surely miss them when they wrap it up. Get out your feels, I love basketball, even the teams I root against.
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Re: I’ll just leave this here.. 

Post#99 » by Egg Nog » Mon May 23, 2022 6:58 am

Funny how people think Wiggins is suddenly a drastically better player now that he's in a better situation.

Wiggins looks like the same steady athletic player with good defensive instincts to me.

Didn't work when he was expected to be the star, but he's a great 3rd/4th option (getting paid like a 1st option)...
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Re: I’ll just leave this here.. 

Post#100 » by Gday mate » Mon May 23, 2022 7:02 am

Chuck Everett wrote:Quite a few people felt Wiggins would do just fine opposite Steph, Dray and Klay. The thought being he wouldn't need to be a franchise savior. In this role, he can excel without the pressure.
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