Better 3&D Player: Klay Thompson or Shane Battier?

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Re: Better 3&D Player: Klay Thompson or Shane Battier? 

Post#81 » by dhsilv2 » Mon May 23, 2022 7:52 am

GSP wrote:ummm WTFFF???????

Crazy how little credit Klay gets. Shane was def a much better defender but this is a weird thread...........one is a star. One is a super role player.

In case ppl have short term memory the Warriors had Steph, Dray, Wiggins, Looney, Poole all last season....but no Klay. Guess how they did last season?


Better than they did with Klay this year? They were 17-15 this year with klay...vs 39-33. But yes someone here has short term memory!
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Re: Better 3&D Player: Klay Thompson or Shane Battier? 

Post#82 » by Warriorfan » Mon May 23, 2022 10:48 am

Battier was a little better on the D but Thompson is much better with the 3 good enough to be HOF.
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Re: Better 3&D Player: Klay Thompson or Shane Battier? 

Post#83 » by Warriorfan » Mon May 23, 2022 10:49 am

dhsilv2 wrote:
GSP wrote:ummm WTFFF???????

Crazy how little credit Klay gets. Shane was def a much better defender but this is a weird thread...........one is a star. One is a super role player.

In case ppl have short term memory the Warriors had Steph, Dray, Wiggins, Looney, Poole all last season....but no Klay. Guess how they did last season?


Better than they did with Klay this year? They were 17-15 this year with klay...vs 39-33. But yes someone here has short term memory!


Yes soon after Klay came back Green and Curry missed games
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Re: Better 3&D Player: Klay Thompson or Shane Battier? 

Post#84 » by dhsilv2 » Mon May 23, 2022 12:53 pm

Warriorfan wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
GSP wrote:ummm WTFFF???????

Crazy how little credit Klay gets. Shane was def a much better defender but this is a weird thread...........one is a star. One is a super role player.

In case ppl have short term memory the Warriors had Steph, Dray, Wiggins, Looney, Poole all last season....but no Klay. Guess how they did last season?


Better than they did with Klay this year? They were 17-15 this year with klay...vs 39-33. But yes someone here has short term memory!


Yes soon after Klay came back Green and Curry missed games


The point was much more than the warriors were playing, with klay, as the near or the best team in the league. Not that klay somehow ruined the season.
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Re: Better 3&D Player: Klay Thompson or Shane Battier? 

Post#85 » by Statlanta » Mon May 23, 2022 1:46 pm

warriorschamps wrote:I'm going to do what I've done for many years now. Every time I see a thread trying to downplay Klay I post this. lol




Klay wasn't the first guy to crush Kevin Durant's title hopes, won't be the last either

The Greatest of All Time debate in basketball is essentially who has the greatest basketball resume of the player who has the best highlights instead of who is the best player
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Re: Better 3&D Player: Klay Thompson or Shane Battier? 

Post#86 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon May 23, 2022 2:18 pm

Onlytimewilltel wrote:
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dhsilv2 wrote:
Weird the link screwed up. But yes, he scored 20 of the 50 when shane was on the floor. he shot over 80% when Shane was off the floor.So yeah shane reduced his shooting by about 30%!

He still torched him :lol:


Scored 20 on him and that’s torching? :lol:

Melo is a loser. Shocked the lakers picked up that cancer. You’re pretty much guaranteed no real playoff success with that guy. :lol:

Mr “who me? Haha yo they want me to come off the bench p”

Looks like you lack reading comprehension my friend. He torched Battier in the playoffs too. :lol:

Anthony is shooting 50 percent (19-of-38) in the series against Battier


I know you must be sad seeing Melo break a bunch of records since being back in the league. Sucks to suck. Lmao. 9th in all time scoring haha
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Re: Better 3&D Player: Klay Thompson or Shane Battier? 

Post#87 » by Onlytimewilltel » Tue May 24, 2022 3:19 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Onlytimewilltel wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:He still torched him :lol:


Scored 20 on him and that’s torching? :lol:

Melo is a loser. Shocked the lakers picked up that cancer. You’re pretty much guaranteed no real playoff success with that guy. :lol:

Mr “who me? Haha yo they want me to come off the bench p”

Looks like you lack reading comprehension my friend. He torched Battier in the playoffs too. :lol:

Anthony is shooting 50 percent (19-of-38) in the series against Battier


I know you must be sad seeing Melo break a bunch of records since being back in the league. Sucks to suck. Lmao. 9th in all time scoring haha


Luckily I’m not seeing Melo do anything :lol:
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Re: Better 3&D Player: Klay Thompson or Shane Battier? 

Post#88 » by r0drig0lac » Tue May 24, 2022 4:32 pm

Curry is one of the 30 best players to play the game, he doesn't need ridiculous topics.
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Re: Better 3&D Player: Klay Thompson or Shane Battier? 

Post#89 » by RiRuHoops » Tue May 24, 2022 4:51 pm

OP needs to word the question as would Klay be a better 3&D role player on Miami Heatles instead of Battier. Otherwise it isn't a fair comparison.
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Re: Better 3&D Player: Klay Thompson or Shane Battier? 

Post#90 » by sp6r=underrated » Tue May 24, 2022 5:17 pm

This is a fascinating thread. Battier by regular stats is a very pedestrian player and Klay is a HOFer. By most advanced stats Battier looks extremely good, non-HOFer but very good, and Klay drops off massively.
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Re: Better 3&D Player: Klay Thompson or Shane Battier? 

Post#91 » by SF_Warriors » Tue May 24, 2022 5:22 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
GSP wrote:ummm WTFFF???????

Crazy how little credit Klay gets. Shane was def a much better defender but this is a weird thread...........one is a star. One is a super role player.

In case ppl have short term memory the Warriors had Steph, Dray, Wiggins, Looney, Poole all last season....but no Klay. Guess how they did last season?


Better than they did with Klay this year? They were 17-15 this year with klay...vs 39-33. But yes someone here has short term memory!


So do you not remember out of 32 games klay played this season, that steph or draymond were missing in 30 of them? Not to mention it takes a guy some time to get back into the flow of things after two years...
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Re: Better 3&D Player: Klay Thompson or Shane Battier? 

Post#92 » by dhsilv2 » Tue May 24, 2022 5:24 pm

SF_Warriors wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
GSP wrote:ummm WTFFF???????

Crazy how little credit Klay gets. Shane was def a much better defender but this is a weird thread...........one is a star. One is a super role player.

In case ppl have short term memory the Warriors had Steph, Dray, Wiggins, Looney, Poole all last season....but no Klay. Guess how they did last season?


Better than they did with Klay this year? They were 17-15 this year with klay...vs 39-33. But yes someone here has short term memory!


So do you not remember out of 32 games klay played this season, that steph or draymond were missing in 30 of them? Not to mention it takes a guy some time to get back into the flow of things after two years...


You're the second person to bring this point out. The point was that they were elite this year before some guys went down and their record this year was built on their success before Klay came back.
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Re: Better 3&D Player: Klay Thompson or Shane Battier? 

Post#93 » by SF_Warriors » Tue May 24, 2022 5:36 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
SF_Warriors wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
Better than they did with Klay this year? They were 17-15 this year with klay...vs 39-33. But yes someone here has short term memory!


So do you not remember out of 32 games klay played this season, that steph or draymond were missing in 30 of them? Not to mention it takes a guy some time to get back into the flow of things after two years...


You're the second person to bring this point out. The point was that they were elite this year before some guys went down and their record this year was built on their success before Klay came back.


Klay's return did help soften the blow from losing steph/draymond..they probably lose more games had klay not played at all for example. Klay did end the season averaging 26ppg in the past dozen games or so.
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Re: Better 3&D Player: Klay Thompson or Shane Battier? 

Post#94 » by SF_Warriors » Tue May 24, 2022 5:41 pm

Replacing klay with battier on the warriors teams would be a major downgrade. Can you imagine klay with tmc/yao? Or klay playing with bron/wade/bosh? It would be lights out every night. Battier was one of the best role players of his time, but I am taking perennial all star over super role player any day.
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Re: Better 3&D Player: Klay Thompson or Shane Battier? 

Post#95 » by dhsilv2 » Tue May 24, 2022 5:45 pm

SF_Warriors wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
SF_Warriors wrote:
So do you not remember out of 32 games klay played this season, that steph or draymond were missing in 30 of them? Not to mention it takes a guy some time to get back into the flow of things after two years...


You're the second person to bring this point out. The point was that they were elite this year before some guys went down and their record this year was built on their success before Klay came back.


Klay's return did help soften the blow from losing steph/draymond..they probably lose more games had klay not played at all for example. Klay did end the season averaging 26ppg in the past dozen games or so.


Never said he sucked or made the team worse. The warriors health, without klay, this year were going to compete with the suns for the best record.
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Re: Better 3&D Player: Klay Thompson or Shane Battier? 

Post#96 » by SF_Warriors » Tue May 24, 2022 6:00 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
SF_Warriors wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
You're the second person to bring this point out. The point was that they were elite this year before some guys went down and their record this year was built on their success before Klay came back.


Klay's return did help soften the blow from losing steph/draymond..they probably lose more games had klay not played at all for example. Klay did end the season averaging 26ppg in the past dozen games or so.


Never said he sucked or made the team worse. The warriors health, without klay, this year were going to compete with the suns for the best record.


I don't care what the warriors record is to start the season compared to when klay came back. He is essential to their success. They absolutely need him to contend. If Klay was healthy last year, the warriors would have benefitted immensely.
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Re: Better 3&D Player: Klay Thompson or Shane Battier? 

Post#97 » by dhsilv2 » Tue May 24, 2022 6:32 pm

SF_Warriors wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
SF_Warriors wrote:
Klay's return did help soften the blow from losing steph/draymond..they probably lose more games had klay not played at all for example. Klay did end the season averaging 26ppg in the past dozen games or so.


Never said he sucked or made the team worse. The warriors health, without klay, this year were going to compete with the suns for the best record.


I don't care what the warriors record is to start the season compared to when klay came back. He is essential to their success. They absolutely need him to contend. If Klay was healthy last year, the warriors would have benefitted immensely.


OK if you're not responding to my post about why the warriors were better this year without Klay than last year without him, then all good. Was confused because you quoted me.
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Re: Better 3&D Player: Klay Thompson or Shane Battier? 

Post#98 » by SF_Warriors » Tue May 24, 2022 6:37 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
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dhsilv2 wrote:
Never said he sucked or made the team worse. The warriors health, without klay, this year were going to compete with the suns for the best record.


I don't care what the warriors record is to start the season compared to when klay came back. He is essential to their success. They absolutely need him to contend. If Klay was healthy last year, the warriors would have benefitted immensely.


OK if you're not responding to my post about why the warriors were better this year without Klay than last year without him, then all good. Was confused because you quoted me.


I'm just saying its dumb to look at the records since its not klays fault injuries happened and its obvious he was never going to cover either draymond or steph's impact.

Why would it not be relevant to consider how well the team would have done last year with him? Is it plausible the warriors would have lost more games this season if klay had not played at all? Isnt it plausible that they would have won more games overall if he was available last season and finish higher than 8th? That's why your take doesnt make sense, because it is hinting at klay not helping the team which is not true.

I mean, yea if klay not playing means steph and draymond stay healthy this season, then your point would actually make sense. But we all know that would be a faulty assumption.
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Re: Better 3&D Player: Klay Thompson or Shane Battier? 

Post#99 » by dhsilv2 » Tue May 24, 2022 7:12 pm

SF_Warriors wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
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I don't care what the warriors record is to start the season compared to when klay came back. He is essential to their success. They absolutely need him to contend. If Klay was healthy last year, the warriors would have benefitted immensely.


OK if you're not responding to my post about why the warriors were better this year without Klay than last year without him, then all good. Was confused because you quoted me.


I'm just saying its dumb to look at the records since its not klays fault injuries happened and its obvious he was never going to cover either draymond or steph's impact.

Why would it not be relevant to consider how well the team would have done last year with him? Is it plausible the warriors would have lost more games this season if klay had not played at all? Isnt it plausible that they would have won more games overall if he was available last season and finish higher than 8th? That's why your take doesnt make sense, because it is hinting at klay not helping the team which is not true.

I mean, yea if klay not playing means steph and draymond stay healthy this season, then your point would actually make sense. But we all know that would be a faulty assumption.


The warriors when healthy (minus klay) were better this year than last year right? If the answer is yes, then we 100% agree. That is the entirety of what my comment was saying.

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