Rumor: NBA Expected to Announce Expansion Teams in Seattle and Las Vegas

[Satch]

Average distance between Memphis and every Western Conference city
Average distance between Minneapolis and every Western Conference city
What are these numbers

[HangTime]

They should get the same stipulation that the the Raptors and Grizzlies had for years 2, 3, and 4, which was No chance at the first overall pick.

[NyKnicks1714]

Ok but if Vegas and Seattle get added in, which other team goes to the east? You need 16 teams in each conference. It literally has to be Memphis based on the map, no?

Minnesota. See map, they're on the right of the red line I drew in. Memphis may be the furthest east by a little, but Minny just makes so much more sense geographically.

Average distance between Memphis and every Eastern Conference city: 712 miles
Average distance between Minneapolis and every Eastern Conference city: 873 miles

(Counting NYC twice of course)

Average distance between Memphis and every other Western Conference city: 1171 miles
Average distance between Minneapolis and every other Western Conference city: 1199 miles

(Counting LA twice and including Vegas and Seattle)

So yes, it makes the most sense to send Memphis East.

[Cactus Jack]

Prediction:
- LeBron and his son will be going to the Vegas team in 2024.
- LeBron will have an ownership share of the Vegas franchise and this is his route to being a franchise owner.

This was Bill Simmons take. I'm not plugged into Vegas. But I guess anything is possible. I do know that Tim Leiweke has his hands all over this. If FSG does get involved. As Bill has speculated than the LeBron angle makes a ton of sense.

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[Pennebaker]

this cap spike is going to be insane. super teams are definitely coming back.

Coming back? Did they go somewhere? We've had superteams continuously since the 1980s.

[Pablo Escobar]

I'm glad the Sonics are back. Maybe Kd goes back there and gets into ownership once he retires.

[rocketsfan100]

Seattle certainly deserves to be back. I remember watching the Rockets v Sonics when we had Barkley, Olajuwon, Clyde, Ellie and co against kemp, Detlef the German ice man, Sam Perkins, Nate McMilian, Hersey Hawkins and Payton.

We had some great battles against those sonics teams . Especially when we finally beat them in 97

[zimpy27]

Prediction:
- LeBron and his son will be going to the Vegas team in 2024.
- LeBron will have an ownership share of the Vegas franchise and this is his route to being a franchise owner.

This was Bill Simmons take. I'm not plugged into Vegas. But I guess anything is possible. I do know that Tim Leiweke has his hands all over this. If FSG does get involved. As Bill has speculated than the LeBron angle makes a ton of sense.

Tim is all over the Seattle one right?

I think FSG will be involved but the main thing will be the NBA allowing a player to own a piece of the franchise.

[LAL1947]

Minnesota. See map, they're on the right of the red line I drew in. Memphis may be the furthest east by a little, but Minny just makes so much more sense geographically.

Average distance between Memphis and every Eastern Conference city: 712 miles
Average distance between Minneapolis and every Eastern Conference city: 873 miles

(Counting NYC twice of course)

Average distance between Memphis and every other Western Conference city: 1171 miles
Average distance between Minneapolis and every other Western Conference city: 1199 miles

(Counting LA twice and including Vegas and Seattle)

So yes, it makes the most sense to send Memphis East.

No, it doesn't make sense, even if only using your averages for a one time trip.

If we send Minnesota to the East and keep Memphis in the West...
Difference between how much each travels = 1,171 - 873 = 298 miles

If we keep Minnesota in the West and send Memphis to the East...
Difference between how much each travels = 1,199 - 712 = 489 miles

298 < 489, the smaller number is more preferable for equitable travel.

[Cactus Jack]

Prediction:
- LeBron and his son will be going to the Vegas team in 2024.
- LeBron will have an ownership share of the Vegas franchise and this is his route to being a franchise owner.

This was Bill Simmons take. I'm not plugged into Vegas. But I guess anything is possible. I do know that Tim Leiweke has his hands all over this. If FSG does get involved. As Bill has speculated than the LeBron angle makes a ton of sense.

Tim is all over the Seattle one right?

I think FSG will be involved but the main thing will be the NBA allowing a player to own a piece of the franchise.

Yes, Tim has his hands in both.

[LAL1947]

this cap spike is going to be insane. super teams are definitely coming back.

Coming back? Did they go somewhere? We've had superteams continuously since the 1980s.

Super-teams =/= Stacked teams

The Lakers and Celtics were stacked teams in the 1980s. The Bulls were a stacked team in the 1990s. The Spurs were a stacked team in the 2000s.

Your boy, Lebron, created a super-team in Miami. GSW created a super-team with Kevin Durant. Brooklyn also created a super-team with KD, Kyrie, Harden... but this one is not as bad as what Miami and GSW did because Brooklyn gave up a lot of assets to put that together.

Edit: This is off-topic, sorry.

[MrBigShot]

Meh. I actually think this NBA is really exciting right now because there is so much talent. 30 more roster spots will dilute the league again.

Las Vegas about to pick up a ton of easy home wins.

Teams can protect up to 8 players, or at least, that's how it was in previous expansion. So the talent won't be diluted that much, it will just create 2 teams that will be in the running for top 5 picks for the foreseeable future.

[LuDux1]

I guess my Austin Armadillos will have to wait.

Sorry, but the Rio Rancho Roadrunners have next.

Vancouver Hoovers

[hauntedcomputer]

Man, I'd at least pick a city that wasn't running out of water. Has Silver even looked at Lake Mead lately?

But I guess no one is allowed to say no to that sweet sweet mob money.

[JN61]

Vegas is going to have one hell of a homecourt advantage.

Should have picked Vancouver over Seattle though if they want to make game more global..

[Branduil]

If the league becomes 32 teams i wonder what the division landscape will look like. I’m guessing it’ll be 8 divisions of 4 teams each

I was thinking more like 4 division of 8 teams each. Then you get a NCAA-style tournament with North, South, East, and West.

I thought about that but it feels like that would be too large for a division. NFL does 8 divisions of 4 and it’s worked

The NBA had four 7-team divisions before the last expansion. 8 teams is only one more in each. Plus that will bring back a lot of classic rivalries.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2002.html

Take the 2002 divisions, move Charlotte to the Atlantic, Minny to Central, add Vegas to the Pacific, and add OKC and NOP to the Southwest.

[NyKnicks1714]

Average distance between Memphis and every Eastern Conference city: 712 miles
Average distance between Minneapolis and every Eastern Conference city: 873 miles

(Counting NYC twice of course)

Average distance between Memphis and every other Western Conference city: 1171 miles
Average distance between Minneapolis and every other Western Conference city: 1199 miles

(Counting LA twice and including Vegas and Seattle)

So yes, it makes the most sense to send Memphis East.

No, it doesn't make sense, even if only using your averages for a one time trip.

If we send Minnesota to the East and keep Memphis in the West...
Difference between how much each travels = 1,171 - 873 = 298 miles

If we keep Minnesota in the West and send Memphis to the East...
Difference between how much each travels = 1,199 - 712 = 489 miles

298 < 489, the smaller number is more preferable for equitable travel.

That's a weird determining factor. Memphis is further East and significantly closer to Eastern Conference teams than Minneapolis is, but we should move Minneapolis East because overall travel is more equitable? If we went by this thinking, you'd have to completely realign the conferences.

Cities are where they are. If you want to scrap conferences that's one thing, but if you want to keep them it makes no sense for equitable travel to be your number one metric for deciding who plays in what conference.

[Lockdown504090]

this cap spike is going to be insane. super teams are definitely coming back.

Coming back? Did they go somewhere? We've had superteams continuously since the 1980s.

who is presently a super team?

[Domejandro]

Average distance between Memphis and every other Western Conference city: 1171 miles
Average distance between Minneapolis and every other Western Conference city: 1199 miles

(Counting LA twice and including Vegas and Seattle)

So yes, it makes the most sense to send Memphis East.

No, it doesn't make sense, even if only using your averages for a one time trip.

If we send Minnesota to the East and keep Memphis in the West...
Difference between how much each travels = 1,171 - 873 = 298 miles

If we keep Minnesota in the West and send Memphis to the East...
Difference between how much each travels = 1,199 - 712 = 489 miles

298 < 489, the smaller number is more preferable for equitable travel.

That's a weird determining factor. Memphis is further East and significantly closer to Eastern Conference teams than Minneapolis is, but we should move Minneapolis East because overall travel is more equitable? If we went by this thinking, you'd have to completely realign the conferences.

Cities are where they are. If you want to scrap conferences that's one thing, but if you want to keep them it makes no sense for equitable travel to be your number one metric for deciding who plays in what conference.

You guys are missing arguably the most important factor… divisions. During the 2018-19 season, Minnesota traveled 55.3k miles (#1 in the NBA), compared to Memphis’ 44.5k miles traveled (#20 in the NBA).

Minnesota consistently travels substantially more than the Memphis Grizzlies do. Minnesota changing conferences would arguably hurt the team’s record, given the strength of the division that they would be merging into, but when it comes to miles traveled it is not even a close debate.

[HMFFL]

No surprise here. Las Vegas has evolved so much that he's been perfect for an NBA team. MLB will be next.

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