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Who do you want us to take at #1?

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Who would you take at #1?

Jabari smith
111
51%
Chet Holmgren
63
29%
Paolo Banchero
27
13%
Jaden Ivey
1
0%
Keegan Murray
1
0%
Shaedon Sharpe
8
4%
Other
5
2%
 
Total votes: 216

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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#721 » by nicnac215 » Wed May 25, 2022 1:17 pm

drsd wrote:
PrimeThyme wrote:I truly love both Chet and Jabari as prospects, but to me, Jabari is the same high ceiling two way star, without the basement floor to go with it. I would not overthink this, but gm’s often do.


Seriously, what's his floor? Rashard Lewis with all-league defensive skills? I am really ok with that.


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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#722 » by basketballRob » Wed May 25, 2022 1:39 pm

The four teams remaining were the best at 3-point defense in the regular season and we're near the bottom. We need a mobile PF like Jabari.

https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/defense-dash-3pt/?Season=2021-22&SeasonType=Regular%20Season



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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#723 » by JMAC3 » Wed May 25, 2022 2:00 pm

Paolo- Jabari- Chet are all reasonable answers for Magic, but for me I would lean Paolo. Why?

Magic have a lot of nice young players, but have yet to land "the guy", the guy who is a number 1 scorer and takes over games. I have seen enough Cole Anthony to know he isn't it. I like how Paolo can create off bounce for himself and make live dribble reads, something Jabari isn't capable of yet. Chet is a really good prospect who can come in raise a teams competitiveness because of what he can do on the defensive side of the floor.

I would roll with Suggs at 1, turn him into a great defender and solid playmaker like a Jrue or Smart. Then move Wagner to 2, where his size gives him a massive advantage to whoever is guarding him and he can help playmake on offense. Then Paolo at the 3, go to scorer and can create some offense for others. Then hope Isaac comes back and can be swiss army knife type player again. Carter at the 5 or Bamba if you do end up bringing him back.

Also like Suggs, Wagner and Paolo can all slide up a spot and play Anthony/Fultz in same lineup over Isaac. Seems like a good mix of offense and defense and has the ability to be 6-5,6-9,6-10-6-10 and 6-10 massive starting lineup.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#724 » by zaymon » Wed May 25, 2022 2:38 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Paolo- Jabari- Chet are all reasonable answers for Magic, but for me I would lean Paolo. Why?

Magic have a lot of nice young players, but have yet to land "the guy", the guy who is a number 1 scorer and takes over games. I have seen enough Cole Anthony to know he isn't it. I like how Paolo can create off bounce for himself and make live dribble reads, something Jabari isn't capable of yet. Chet is a really good prospect who can come in raise a teams competitiveness because of what he can do on the defensive side of the floor.

I would roll with Suggs at 1, turn him into a great defender and solid playmaker like a Jrue or Smart. Then move Wagner to 2, where his size gives him a massive advantage to whoever is guarding him and he can help playmake on offense. Then Paolo at the 3, go to scorer and can create some offense for others. Then hope Isaac comes back and can be swiss army knife type player again. Carter at the 5 or Bamba if you do end up bringing him back.

Also like Suggs, Wagner and Paolo can all slide up a spot and play Anthony/Fultz in same lineup over Isaac. Seems like a good mix of offense and defense and has the ability to be 6-5,6-9,6-10-6-10 and 6-10 massive starting lineup.


Why the only poster who agrees with me is not even fan of the team ? :P I have been forcing this idea since we won the lottery. It just makes sense.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#725 » by 89Magicfan » Wed May 25, 2022 2:44 pm

As of today it’s Chet or Shaedon Sharpe for me. With Paolo right right behind them.

I’m ok with the “wth is wrong with you” comments.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#726 » by basketballRob » Wed May 25, 2022 2:48 pm

89Magicfan wrote:As of today it’s Chet or Shaedon Sharpe for me. With Paolo right right behind them.

I’m ok with the “wth is wrong with you” comments.
That's okay, I wouldn't be surprised to see Chet slip possibly out of the top 5.

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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#727 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Wed May 25, 2022 3:10 pm

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89Magicfan wrote:As of today it’s Chet or Shaedon Sharpe for me. With Paolo right right behind them.

I’m ok with the “wth is wrong with you” comments.
That's okay, I wouldn't be surprised to see Chet slip possibly out of the top 5.

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there's no way he gets past OKC IMO.
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Post#728 » by RoyceDa59 » Wed May 25, 2022 3:12 pm

Take Jabari I think he’s the obvious choice.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#729 » by magicfan217 » Wed May 25, 2022 3:13 pm

Nobody knows who OKC is going to pick, and any reports as to who they like will probably be nothing more than educated guesses. Only way I am entertaining any trade with OKC is if they assure us of who they are going to pick and it's not the guy we want to pick.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#730 » by basketballRob » Wed May 25, 2022 3:14 pm

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basketballRob wrote:
89Magicfan wrote:As of today it’s Chet or Shaedon Sharpe for me. With Paolo right right behind them.

I’m ok with the “wth is wrong with you” comments.
That's okay, I wouldn't be surprised to see Chet slip possibly out of the top 5.

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there's no way he gets past OKC IMO.
Rumors are they are interested in Ivey. The Kings are also interested in moving up. Maybe a deal between them is possible?

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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#731 » by drsd » Wed May 25, 2022 3:33 pm

The-Stallion70 wrote:
locomagicfan wrote:The year is 2027... does anybody else see Channing Frye 2.0 from Jabari Smith or just me?


He is not like Channing he is a way better athlete. Tbh after watching a full Auburn game he reminds me of Wiggins athletically. He is super active on the floor, going after rebounds, moving his feet on defense, he covers a ton of space without breaking a sweat.


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Watch some videos of Smith defending. He is no Frye 2.0. Why Holmgren and Smith are mocked over Banchero, is that these top-2ers are both two-way players.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#732 » by tiderulz » Wed May 25, 2022 3:36 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Paolo- Jabari- Chet are all reasonable answers for Magic, but for me I would lean Paolo. Why?

Magic have a lot of nice young players, but have yet to land "the guy", the guy who is a number 1 scorer and takes over games. I have seen enough Cole Anthony to know he isn't it. I like how Paolo can create off bounce for himself and make live dribble reads, something Jabari isn't capable of yet. Chet is a really good prospect who can come in raise a teams competitiveness because of what he can do on the defensive side of the floor.

I would roll with Suggs at 1, turn him into a great defender and solid playmaker like a Jrue or Smart. Then move Wagner to 2, where his size gives him a massive advantage to whoever is guarding him and he can help playmake on offense. Then Paolo at the 3, go to scorer and can create some offense for others. Then hope Isaac comes back and can be swiss army knife type player again. Carter at the 5 or Bamba if you do end up bringing him back.

Also like Suggs, Wagner and Paolo can all slide up a spot and play Anthony/Fultz in same lineup over Isaac. Seems like a good mix of offense and defense and has the ability to be 6-5,6-9,6-10-6-10 and 6-10 massive starting lineup.

the problem is, we dont know if Paolo can be "the guy" and be efficient. Cole Anthony thinks he is the guy, but badly inefficient. Paolo looks to be willing passer, but right now isnt a good outside shooter so teams may back off him and dare him to shoot, thus creating spacing issues we currently have. Suggs is a bad shooter too, so now 2 defenders could hug the lane and cause issues for other players. It all depends on how confident they are in players developing. If Paolo can improve his 3 pt shooting (and bad FT%) and his bad defense, he could be great. If Jabari can improve his handle and finishing, he has elite shooting and very good defense. If Chet can improve his body (his frame is small to begin with, so there is only so much that can improve) to reduce his injury risk. All questions that have to be answered.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#733 » by zaymon » Wed May 25, 2022 3:37 pm

RoyceDa59 wrote:Take Jabari I think he’s the obvious choice.


Sure, big athletic forward with great playmaking skill is definetly not the obvious choice. Masai saw what will win in future and picked thin shooter with limited handle and passing. Masai is one of the best gm's we should definetly look closely at what he was doing at the top of the draft last year.
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Post#734 » by jayrehme » Wed May 25, 2022 3:53 pm

order of who "I" want us to take..

1. Chet - just has pure basketball instincts you can't teach, also a mobile 7 footer with good health history, and i love me some shot blocking. He has produced at every level so far.
2. Paolo - physically a beast, very gifted on the offensive end, including being an underrated passer
3. Jabari - currently an elite 3/D player, could end up being the best player
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#735 » by Magic_Kingdom » Wed May 25, 2022 3:55 pm

Jabari looks like he could get bigger and put more mass on that frame. I'd be interested to see what his wingspan is too, because he's pretty masterful at shooting over tight defense.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#736 » by JMAC3 » Wed May 25, 2022 3:56 pm

tiderulz wrote:the problem is, we dont know if Paolo can be "the guy" and be efficient. Cole Anthony thinks he is the guy, but badly inefficient. Paolo looks to be willing passer, but right now isnt a good outside shooter so teams may back off him and dare him to shoot, thus creating spacing issues we currently have. Suggs is a bad shooter too, so now 2 defenders could hug the lane and cause issues for other players. It all depends on how confident they are in players developing. If Paolo can improve his 3 pt shooting (and bad FT%) and his bad defense, he could be great. If Jabari can improve his handle and finishing, he has elite shooting and very good defense. If Chet can improve his body (his frame is small to begin with, so there is only so much that can improve) to reduce his injury risk. All questions that have to be answered.


Paolo was best player in NCAA tourney out of the three. 6-10 250 from day 1, is bigger than LeBron. He may struggle to shoot from day 1, but you're not picking at number 1 thinking who will be best player in first 40 career games.

Paolo feels like maybe a 20-22 ppg inefficient scorer first few years, but Jabari seems like a 16-18 ppg career scorer to me.

If you are already worried about if Suggs is ever a good shooter, you must not trust coaching staff or his work ethic. Way too early to be thinking like that.
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Post#737 » by MagicTownBaller » Wed May 25, 2022 4:54 pm

I just want an update on workouts and stuff? How close to the draft did we know for sure Cade was number 1?
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Post#738 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Wed May 25, 2022 4:57 pm

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Interesting Catch & Shoot numbers for this draft class. Jabari is ELITE & not just because he's getting open looks

Catch and Shoot 3 contested vs uncontested

Jabari contested 35/94 for 37.2% and uncontested 20/35 for 57.1%

Paolo contested 10/34 for 29.4% and uncontested 25/59 for 42.4%

Chet contested 15/42 for 35.7% and 17/42 for 40.5%
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#739 » by basketballRob » Wed May 25, 2022 5:54 pm

Chet the favorite to be the 1st pick on BetOnline.

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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#740 » by zaymon » Wed May 25, 2022 6:47 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:Image

Interesting Catch & Shoot numbers for this draft class. Jabari is ELITE & not just because he's getting open looks

Catch and Shoot 3 contested vs uncontested

Jabari contested 35/94 for 37.2% and uncontested 20/35 for 57.1%

Paolo contested 10/34 for 29.4% and uncontested 25/59 for 42.4%

Chet contested 15/42 for 35.7% and 17/42 for 40.5%


Its not a particularly good decision making taking so many contested shots by Jabari. NBA 3s are even further and he shot 38% overall on them. We blame his guards but how can they be in good rhytm when one player take's so many tough looks ? It was the same argument with Anthony and UNC offense. When one player hijacks the offense it makes it harder for rest of the team.
We talk about UNC how about this year ?
My money is on Banchero going number 1 !

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