***Official 2021-22 Offseason Thread***

[Hello Brooklyn]

If there is actually hesitancy moving forward long term with this core group, this offseason might actually be the best opportunity to just start over.

Durant is still viewed as an elite player and there would be several teams looking to contend that could make offers that would replenish your draft picks plus more (i.e. Blazers, Suns).

There will likely never be another player as good Kevin Durant on the Brooklyn Nets.

Were going to trade him away because of a disastrous season? How does that make sense?

I don't care how the playoffs went.

You give me Kyrie, KD, Nash, Harris, Curry etc. Its enough to contend for a Championship if done correctly.

[MrDollarBills]

Sounds like you guys might get your wish to rebuild for another 10 years. CANT WAIT.

It sucks but do you honestly see this situation working out? Kyrie is unstable, Ben is scared to get back on the court, and KD is going to be 34 next season. Nash is completely inept.

This has been a failure. I'm not sure how this will turnaround.

[MrDollarBills]

It would be idiotic not to extend Kyrie.

Despite all his trouble, there is no more mandate and the worst is behind him.

Worst case he is still tradable. Hes young enough for a bad team to take a chance on him.

KD is still a top 5 player.

And there will be major upgrades to the roster.

Why would you not take that?

Otherwise we lose Durant and suck again? Is that really better?

The Nets can turn it aorund.

The major change Marks needs to make is to FIRE NASH.

Instead of doing that hes playing games with Kyrie. Moron.

Kyrie should pick up his option and show the club he's serious about playing basketball and winning. I don't blame the Nets for not wanting to extend him after what he's done.

Nash needs to go too.

[Hello Brooklyn]

It would be idiotic not to extend Kyrie.

Despite all his trouble, there is no more mandate and the worst is behind him.

Worst case he is still tradable. Hes young enough for a bad team to take a chance on him.

KD is still a top 5 player.

And there will be major upgrades to the roster.

Why would you not take that?

Otherwise we lose Durant and suck again? Is that really better?

The Nets can turn it aorund.

The major change Marks needs to make is to FIRE NASH.

Instead of doing that hes playing games with Kyrie. Moron.

Kyrie should pick up his option and show the club he's serious about playing basketball and winning. I don't blame the Nets for not wanting to extend him after what he's done.

Nash needs to go too.

No he shouldn't.

Kyrie knows he can get a long term deal if he doesn't get one here.

We would lose Kyrie for nothing and then KD.

If Marks wants to suddenly be so tough then **** fire Nash.

He will do anything to let his friend off the hook.

To me Nash is 100x the problem that Kyrie is now that the mandate is lifted.

I think it would be fairly easy to trade Kyrie at the deadline if need be.

[NetsWorld]

It would be idiotic not to extend Kyrie.

Despite all his trouble, there is no more mandate and the worst is behind him.

Worst case he is still tradable. Hes young enough for a bad team to take a chance on him.

KD is still a top 5 player.

And there will be major upgrades to the roster.

Why would you not take that?

Otherwise we lose Durant and suck again? Is that really better?

The Nets can turn it aorund.

The major change Marks needs to make is to FIRE NASH.

Instead of doing that hes playing games with Kyrie. Moron.

Kyrie should pick up his option and show the club he's serious about playing basketball and winning. I don't blame the Nets for not wanting to extend him after what he's done.

Nash needs to go too.

No he shouldn't.


Kyrie knows he can get a long term deal if he doesn't get one here.

We would lose Kyrie for nothing and then KD.

If Marks wants to suddenly be so tough then **** fire Nash.

He will do anything to let his friend off the hook.

To me Nash is 100x the problem that Kyrie is now that the mandate is lifted.

I think it would be fairly easy to trade Kyrie at the deadline if need be.

KD is locked in already, we can trade him if that's the case but the price tag for another team will be high, tons of young prospects and picks would have to go. Also, keep in mind Simmons is still here at 25 and he is a star prospect and we know what he is capable of. Nets could be retooling for all we know. Connecting the dots together, Kyrie wants to be in L.A. and he may get his wish. Why there is so much overreaction is beyond me. He is not dependable and I am sure KD is well aware of what is going on and does not want to waste another prime year. Basically what we can conclude here is Kyrie wants LeBron to salvage his value and bring him to L.A.....Hence he is reconciling with him. Nets can fill out the roster with very good players to construct a contender. I could be wrong but with the news leaking about Nets unwilling to offer him a max, I wouldn't be surprised Kyrie is warming up to LeBron to go to L.A.

[Netaman]

Nobody is 100x the problem Kyrie is/has been. He is completely unreliable. He left the team last year. Then he got hurt against Milwaukee - which isn't his fault but health unreliability is no different than any other kind of unreliability.

This year he created the entire **** with the vax. Think whatever you want about the stupidity of the mandate (which it was) but there was an easy solution that 99.9% of the other players in the league were able to accommodate.

I'm not blaming Kyrie entirely - KD wants him here, they both were likely part of the Harden decision. Nash is a downstream result of them also. I dont for a second believe Marks would keep Nash if KD didn't want him here any more.

but the original flaw in this roster is Kyrie. if KD was best friends with Jimmy Butler they'd be playing for a second banner right now.

[NetsWorld]

It would be idiotic not to extend Kyrie.

Despite all his trouble, there is no more mandate and the worst is behind him.

Worst case he is still tradable. Hes young enough for a bad team to take a chance on him.

KD is still a top 5 player.

And there will be major upgrades to the roster.

Why would you not take that?

Otherwise we lose Durant and suck again? Is that really better?

The Nets can turn it aorund.

The major change Marks needs to make is to FIRE NASH.

Instead of doing that hes playing games with Kyrie. Moron.

Kyrie should pick up his option and show the club he's serious about playing basketball and winning. I don't blame the Nets for not wanting to extend him after what he's done.

Nash needs to go too.

On the Nash part, that won't be happening. In fact, Nets got rid of the coaching staff to bring a damn staff to help him improve as a coach and understand the concept of a "system"; he said what he said at the presser two weeks ago for a reason. If Berrago comes, it will help immensely considering his experience and I believe Marks will bring in more good coaches to help assemble a staff which will be similar tot he 20-21 staff which helped the damn Nets develop a system where they destroyed their opponent.

[TheNetsFan]

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If he's upset about we can trade him to LA for Anthony Davis. Problem solved.

Kyrie is gone, and it's not about the money. There is no mutual trust anymore, and if the club doesn't want Kyrie back, they are entitled to that. But KD won't be happy with this, that's for sure. His championship window has closed in one year basically.

Gone where? Who is backing up the truck to give a 4 year max?

The Nets want him to pick up his option. They might give him an extra year or two, but that it. If he's willing to walk for less money because he feels disrespected, so be it.

[MrDollarBills]

It would be idiotic not to extend Kyrie.

Despite all his trouble, there is no more mandate and the worst is behind him.

Worst case he is still tradable. Hes young enough for a bad team to take a chance on him.

KD is still a top 5 player.

And there will be major upgrades to the roster.

Why would you not take that?

Otherwise we lose Durant and suck again? Is that really better?

The Nets can turn it aorund.

The major change Marks needs to make is to FIRE NASH.

Instead of doing that hes playing games with Kyrie. Moron.

Kyrie should pick up his option and show the club he's serious about playing basketball and winning. I don't blame the Nets for not wanting to extend him after what he's done.

Nash needs to go too.

No he shouldn't.

Kyrie knows he can get a long term deal if he doesn't get one here.

We would lose Kyrie for nothing and then KD.

If Marks wants to suddenly be so tough then **** fire Nash.

He will do anything to let his friend off the hook.

To me Nash is 100x the problem that Kyrie is now that the mandate is lifted.

I think it would be fairly easy to trade Kyrie at the deadline if need be.

Kyrie is a massive part of the problem. His refusal to get vaccinated sabotaged the entire season. How on earth are you absolving him?

Nash sucks, but Kyrie has played 20 games in year 1. 54 games in year 2, where we saw him inexplicably go AWOL a month into the season, attending parties while the team was on the road playing. This year, by his own choice by refusing to take a simple shot, he played 29. Does that warrant a max extension? Absolutely not. The Nets have bent over backwards for him and what has it gotten them?

Kyrie and Nash are two different issues. Nash should be fired, and Kyrie has proven to be unreliable and untrustworthy. He needs to earn that extension or start looking for a destination where he can be S&T

Edit: And if KD has a problem with it, fine. I'll gladly trade him for multiple firsts and prospects. I'm over all of this crap.

[MrDollarBills]

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If he's upset about we can trade him to LA for Anthony Davis. Problem solved.

Kyrie is gone, and it's not about the money. There is no mutual trust anymore, and if the club doesn't want Kyrie back, they are entitled to that. But KD won't be happy with this, that's for sure. His championship window has closed in one year basically.

Gone where? Who is backing up the truck to give a 4 year max?

The Nets want him to pick up his option. They might give him an extra year or two, but that it. If he's willing to walk for less money because he feels disrespected, so be it.

Right. Let him go play for the OKC Thunder if he feels like he should be just given a max deal without having even earned it.

[TheNetsFan]

It would be idiotic not to extend Kyrie.

Despite all his trouble, there is no more mandate and the worst is behind him.

Worst case he is still tradable. Hes young enough for a bad team to take a chance on him.

KD is still a top 5 player.

And there will be major upgrades to the roster.

Why would you not take that?

Otherwise we lose Durant and suck again? Is that really better?

The Nets can turn it aorund.

The major change Marks needs to make is to FIRE NASH.

Instead of doing that hes playing games with Kyrie. Moron.

Who has the cap space, positional need and intestinal fortitude to throw max money at Kyrie? Orlando?

[MGrand15]

Sounds like you guys might get your wish to rebuild for another 10 years. CANT WAIT.

It sucks but do you honestly see this situation working out? Kyrie is unstable, Ben is scared to get back on the court, and KD is going to be 34 next season. Nash is completely inept.

This has been a failure. I'm not sure how this will turnaround.

We were the best team in the league last year before injuries. I'm not ready to blow it up because we had 1 disaster year. KD is 34 and he was so good last year he was All NBA 2nd team while missing 30 games. If Marks builds a roster that actually makes sense, we're right back in the mix. It's not rocket science - literally every single team in the playoffs was built better than we were. That includes the Pelicans who made it only cause of the play-in. Marks was spectacularly bad last off-season + this season.

I honestly think some fans (not you specifically) forget what rebuilding is. We had the ONE fun year with Kenny, DLo, etc. Every year before that in Brooklyn was straight up miserable. We go from potential contender to a 25 win team hoping that Cam Thomas turns into an all star. I could watch the Knicks if I want to see that kind of stuff.

[Netaman]

Sounds like you guys might get your wish to rebuild for another 10 years. CANT WAIT.

It sucks but do you honestly see this situation working out? Kyrie is unstable, Ben is scared to get back on the court, and KD is going to be 34 next season. Nash is completely inept.

This has been a failure. I'm not sure how this will turnaround.

there is 100% a path to this turning around - but it starts with Kyrie manning up for the first time in his career instead of walking away from a dysfunctional situation he created in the first place, again.

if he doesn't man up then the best way forward is probably a sign and trade getting whatever they can for him and building from there - ideally with KD and Simmons bought in. But that path is harder, especially if they aren't bought in. I'd imagine with a S&T they'd be able to get another version of Curry/Drummond in salary matching, which is better than nothing.

I dont think the nets have any choice but to do what they are doing right now though and forcing that fork in the road where they decide if they are committed or not. Kyrie has not been committed to the team and they've failed to win twice now because of it. KD is only getting older so he may only have 1 or 2 championship level years left, would anyone feel comfortable betting on Kyrie's reliability to get him there?

[GTR11]

It would be idiotic not to extend Kyrie.

Despite all his trouble, there is no more mandate and the worst is behind him.

Worst case he is still tradable. Hes young enough for a bad team to take a chance on him.

KD is still a top 5 player.

And there will be major upgrades to the roster.

Why would you not take that?

Otherwise we lose Durant and suck again? Is that really better?

The Nets can turn it aorund.

The major change Marks needs to make is to FIRE NASH.

Instead of doing that hes playing games with Kyrie. Moron.

Who has the cap space, positional need and intestinal fortitude to throw max money at Kyrie? Orlando?

Duh nix. Let them ping pong clowns Sign him. We can send KD along if they send couple players we want with 4 unprotected picks.

[GTR11]

Tsai finally made a right decision. Now let Marks do his job. We have situation where LA and duh mix can will start bidding war against each other.

Remember, Kyrie comes along with KD as a price. We can get our assets back and more if things will play out right.

[TheNetsFan]

It would be idiotic not to extend Kyrie.

Despite all his trouble, there is no more mandate and the worst is behind him.

Worst case he is still tradable. Hes young enough for a bad team to take a chance on him.

KD is still a top 5 player.

And there will be major upgrades to the roster.

Why would you not take that?

Otherwise we lose Durant and suck again? Is that really better?

The Nets can turn it aorund.

The major change Marks needs to make is to FIRE NASH.

Instead of doing that hes playing games with Kyrie. Moron.

Who has the cap space, positional need and intestinal fortitude to throw max money at Kyrie? Orlando?

Duh nix. Let them ping pong clowns Sign him. We can send KD along if they send couple players we want with 4 unprotected picks.

Try again. They have no cap space.

Detroit has a lot of space & can easily get more, but why would they want to introduce their young guards to the Kyrie experience. Orlando has a need & can get there. Chicago can get there pretty easily if LaVine walks. I can't see San Antonio dumping players to bring Kyrie into the Spurs culture.

[GTR11]

Marks said what Tsai feel. Anyone who didn't get a memo have no one to blame. As I said before, wake up, this is real. Your imaginary world some created in your heads is no more. This is harsh reality blowing door out.

[mademan]

It would be idiotic not to extend Kyrie.

Despite all his trouble, there is no more mandate and the worst is behind him.

Worst case he is still tradable. Hes young enough for a bad team to take a chance on him.

KD is still a top 5 player.

And there will be major upgrades to the roster.

Why would you not take that?

Otherwise we lose Durant and suck again? Is that really better?

The Nets can turn it aorund.

The major change Marks needs to make is to FIRE NASH.

Instead of doing that hes playing games with Kyrie. Moron.

Who has the cap space, positional need and intestinal fortitude to throw max money at Kyrie? Orlando?

i mean, do you really wanna go into the season with Kyrie/Nets FO being at odds? He's already difficult to handle when youre coddling him. Last time Cleveland tried to control him, he threatened to get an optional minor surgery and sit out the season. He just gave up half of last years salary to take a stand. This is the dude you wanna play chicken with?

If the Nets dont want to extend Kyrie, theyre gonna have to trade him, cause i dont see how else it ends well.

[TheNetsFan]

It would be idiotic not to extend Kyrie.

Despite all his trouble, there is no more mandate and the worst is behind him.

Worst case he is still tradable. Hes young enough for a bad team to take a chance on him.

KD is still a top 5 player.

And there will be major upgrades to the roster.

Why would you not take that?

Otherwise we lose Durant and suck again? Is that really better?

The Nets can turn it aorund.

The major change Marks needs to make is to FIRE NASH.

Instead of doing that hes playing games with Kyrie. Moron.

Who has the cap space, positional need and intestinal fortitude to throw max money at Kyrie? Orlando?

i mean, do you really wanna go into the season with Kyrie/Nets FO being at odds? He's already difficult to handle when youre coddling him. Last time Cleveland tried to control him, he threatened to get an optional minor surgery and sit out the season. He just gave up half of last years salary to take a stand. This is the dude you wanna play chicken with?

If the Nets dont want to extend Kyrie, theyre gonna have to trade him, cause i dont see how else it ends well.

You can question whether "he's the dude you wanna play chicken with" but I'd rather play chicken then sign up for a long term commitment. The Nets have a questionable 1-2 year window. I'd rather close it early & rebuild than extend it further & be saddled with an albatross contract.

[mademan]

Who has the cap space, positional need and intestinal fortitude to throw max money at Kyrie? Orlando?

i mean, do you really wanna go into the season with Kyrie/Nets FO being at odds? He's already difficult to handle when youre coddling him. Last time Cleveland tried to control him, he threatened to get an optional minor surgery and sit out the season. He just gave up half of last years salary to take a stand. This is the dude you wanna play chicken with?

If the Nets dont want to extend Kyrie, theyre gonna have to trade him, cause i dont see how else it ends well.

You can question whether "he's the dude you wanna play chicken with" but I'd rather play chicken then sign up for a long term commitment. The Nets have a questionable 1-2 year window. I'd rather close it early & rebuild than extend it further & be saddled with an albatross contract.

Then trading is the best idea then. Cause i wouldnt wanna be the team that told Kyrie to stfu about his contract status and expect it to go well. This guy literally just gave up 17 million this past year to take a stand. I cant imagine this ending well if the Nets expect him to play without a new contract