Top 15 Players at every position. Ranked.

[giordunk]

I think it makes no sense not to include Embiid in the top 15 - It's easy to include coz he won an MVP I'd argue Embiid was closer to winning an MVP than a guy like Mourning or even Dwight ever has.

[falcolombardi]

mmm, let me try but i will admit this is a "shooting from the hip" list that i would need tl consider more in depth when i have time, also defining positions in some of these guys is tricky tbh

pg
-magic
-curry
-oscar
-chris paul
-stockton
-nash
-bob cousy (more by legacy than feeling confident on his impact tbh)
-frazier
-kidd
-payton
-westbrook
-isiah thomas
-gus williams (?)
-mark price (?)
- tim hardaway(?)/lillard(?)/penny(?), brown(?), billups(?), tony parker (?)

tons of possible choices after like the top 12

sg
-jordan
-kobe
-west
-wade
-harden
-drexler
-miller
-ginobili
-allen
-Carter (?) (does he count as a wing or sg?)
-gervin (sf or sg?)
-english
-jimmy butler
-iverson (kinda see him as a sg)


sf

-lebron
-bird
-durant
-erving
-kawhi
-pippen
-baylor
-wilkins
-marquess johnson (?)
-moncrief (sf or sg?)
-dantley
-luka
-marion
-bobby jones
-paul george

PF

Duncan (center?)
Dirk
Garnett
giannis
karl malone
Barkley
bob petit
neil johnston
anthony davis (kinda counts as center too)
draymond (?) (would be a 4 in most eras)
McHale
webber (?)
pau gasol (?)
rodman? (can be a small forward too)
Mcadoo?

Center
kareem
russel
wilt
shaq
hakeem
robinson
jokic
moses
ewing
mutombo
cowens
unseld
embiid
gilmore (?)
parish (?)mourning (?)/marc gasol (?)/arvydas sabonis* (? this one depends on speculation of his european leagues prime level against nba competition)/thurmond

this last one is stacked

my list is slanted towards modern players i am morr familiar with although i tried to be impartial

[Dnt hate]

Vince and Tmac were not better than AI. Just seems like you guys don't like him for some reason.

[Lou Fan]

I'll give it a shot

PGs:
1. Magic Johnson
2. Steph Curry
3. Oscar Robertson
4. Steve Nash
5. Chris Paul
6. John Stockton
7. Gary Payton
8. Jason Kidd
9. Walt Frazier
10. Russell Westbrook
11. Bob Cousy
12. Chauncey Billups
13. Isiah Thomas
14. Damian Lillaird
15. Tony Parker

SGs:
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Jerry West
4. Dwyane Wade
5. James Harden
6. Reggie Miller
7. Clyde Drexler
8. Ray Allen
9. Tracy McGrady
10. George Gervin
11. Manu Ginobili
12. Vince Carter
13. Sidney Moncrief
14. Hal Greer
15. Sam Jones

SFs:
1. LeBron James
2. Larry Bird
3. Julius Erving
4. Kevin Durant
5. John Havlicek
6. Scottie Pippen
7. Rick Barry
8. Kawhi Leonard
9. Elgin Baylor
10. Paul Pierce
11. Paul Arizin
12. Paul George
13. Jimmy Butler
14. Alex English
15. James Worthy

PFs:
1. Kevin Garnett
2. Tim Duncan
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Charles Barkley
5. Karl Malone
6. Bob Pettit
7. Giannis Antetokounmpo
8. Pau Gasol
9. Dolph Schayes
10. Elvin Hayes
11. Kevin McHale
12. Anthony Davis
13. Rasheed Wallace
14. Bobby Jones
15. Draymond Green

Cs:
1. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
2. Bill Russell
3. Shaquille O'Neal
4. Hakeem Olajuwon
5. Wilt Chamberlain
6. David Robinson
7. Moses Malone
8. Patrick Ewing
9. George Mikan
10. Artis Gilmore
11. Dwight Howard
12. Nikola Jokic
13. Dave Cowens
14. Dikembe Mutombo
15. Alonzo Mourning

[SickMother]

Vince and Tmac were not better than AI. Just seems like you guys don't like him for some reason.

I don't think its just "some" reason. AI was ball dominant & inefficient with limited if any defensive impact.

The five years he lead the league in usage his TS+ marks were 99, 95, 100, 94 and 93. That's a lot of empty possessions.

[Dnt hate]

Vince and Tmac were not better than AI. Just seems like you guys don't like him for some reason.

I don't think its just "some" reason. AI was ball dominant & inefficient with limited if any defensive impact.

The five years he lead the league in usage his TS+ marks were 99, 95, 100, 94 and 93. That's a lot of empty possessions.

There wasn't any point where Vince or Tmac were better than AI. Maybe 1 or 2 of the Orlando years maybeeeee.